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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Trump fires Brad Parscale as his Campaign Manager.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...motes-parscale


    Trump's new campaign manager is Bill Stepien, the former campaign manager and Deputy Chief of Staff to former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Stepien was a key figure in the Bridgegate scandal, so much so that he was fired by Christie and publicly repudiated by him in 2014.

    Trump goes through campaign managers almost as fast as he goes through wives.
    Or underwear, if he changes them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nope not interested,nice of you to feel that you personally represent 328 million people.

    All this is just regurgitating 2016,we heard the same lines over and over again,but yet here we are with Trump as our president,all 325 million citizens and his biggest threat is Biden?

    Russia was kicked out of the G8 because they did not want to go to war with us against Iran,many Americans also opposed going to war,many Americans oppose any war,but yet it is ok now to use the argument against Russia?

    Senior officials serve at his will,he has every right to fire anybody at will.

    A president sets policy to follow,you do not want to follow the set policies and go off on your own,then fine,your fired.

    Thats the way it has always been,no different if one walks into their job tomorrow and told the boss to piss off they are going to run it how they see fit.

    His biggest mistake is he did not root out all of Obama’s holdovers from the start.
    All this cheerleading you're doing Richard for Dump, and all he's going to give you is a participation trophy......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid View Post
    All this cheerleading you're doing Richard for Dump, and all he's going to give you is a participation trophy......
    Is it me cheerleading for the current president or indicative of how many really do not know how the federal government operates and has for the last 150+ years,no matter who is president?

    I am not a part of the participation trophy generation,we were not raised on the basis of the world owes us something because we simply exist,if you wanted it you had to earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Might or might not have gone through? This isn't a hypothetical, this actually happened...and it didn't go through. He got caught. So again, I ask what difference forcing him to vote in-person would achieve since he would have been caught either way?

    Far as I can tell, Kansas has had no-reason absentee voting since at least 2014 and without any substantial problems. So what is the evidence-basis for your opposition to mail-in voting, particularly during a deadly pandemic?
    There's examples of fraud out there for viewing.here's a couple:
    Jane Kay BaloghOUTCOME: DIVERSION PROGRAMFalse Registrations, Fraudulent Use of Absentee BallotsBalogh was found guilty of making false or misleading statementsto a public servant, as well as absentee ballot fraud and registrationfraud. In 2006, Balogh registered her dog, Duncan, to vote underher address and telephone number and successfully completed andmailed an absentee ballot for him. Balogh claimed she was drawingattention to flaws in the absentee ballot system. She received aone-year deferred sentence, and was ordered to perform 10 hours ofcommunity service and pay court fees of $240.SOURCESbit.ly/2evub0Hbit.ly/2unV0wSheritage.orgDISPOSITION: 2006

    WASHINGTONDoris McFarlandOUTCOME: DIVERSION PROGRAMFraudulent Use of Absentee BallotsDoris McFarland’s husband passed away before he could vote inthe 2004 election, and Mrs. McFarland decided to cast his absenteeballot. She later admitted to double voting in that year’s election butavoided jail time. She was ordered to pay court fees and a $490 fine.

    I happen to believe there's less chance for fraud with an in person system. Unless you somehow found a way to be in multiple places at once so you could cast multiple votes.
    In which case I say, share the secret with science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    There's examples of fraud out there for viewing.here's a couple:
    Jane Kay BaloghOUTCOME: DIVERSION PROGRAMFalse Registrations, Fraudulent Use of Absentee BallotsBalogh was found guilty of making false or misleading statementsto a public servant, as well as absentee ballot fraud and registrationfraud. In 2006, Balogh registered her dog, Duncan, to vote underher address and telephone number and successfully completed andmailed an absentee ballot for him. Balogh claimed she was drawingattention to flaws in the absentee ballot system. She received aone-year deferred sentence, and was ordered to perform 10 hours ofcommunity service and pay court fees of $240.SOURCESbit.ly/2evub0Hbit.ly/2unV0wSheritage.orgDISPOSITION: 2006

    WASHINGTONDoris McFarlandOUTCOME: DIVERSION PROGRAMFraudulent Use of Absentee BallotsDoris McFarland’s husband passed away before he could vote inthe 2004 election, and Mrs. McFarland decided to cast his absenteeballot. She later admitted to double voting in that year’s election butavoided jail time. She was ordered to pay court fees and a $490 fine.

    I happen to believe there's less chance for fraud with an in person system. Unless you somehow found a way to be in multiple places at once so you could cast multiple votes.
    In which case I say, share the secret with science.
    Sweet cut & paste job there, bro. Way to make that readable. To the point, LOL, TWO people broke the law so let's not let anyone vote by mail? Do you apply the same logic to guns? Probably not. Anyways, yes people do commit voter fraud in person, like this guy.

    “DeMuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear.
    Using your messed up logic, we shouldn't let people vote in person either, because I just showed that there is potential for fraud. Maybe we just shouldn't let people vote at all, that way there won't be a single instance of fraud in hundreds of millions of votes cast. What say you?

    As for that "secret with science" you wanted, here it is: it's called a car. As in, you go vote at one polling station, hope in your magic futuristic science car, and drive to another polling station and try to vote a second time. It probably wouldn't work but you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    your original quote:



    Yes, in my opinion, you did define 'elderly white people' as enemies of the Democratic Party. I took it as indication of sneering contempt like when Hillary referred to "deplorables". Would the attendees of the Trump rally have been more amenable to you if they were younger instead of old like Joe Biden? What is your source of their average age of attendees anyway? I guess if its fair to negatively characterize Trump fans as "elderly" its open season on Joe Biden's age related condition.

    I usually don't capitalize black, white, yellow or red when referring to races. I noticed that you capitalized 'People of Color' but did not capitalize 'white'. You are consistent in making my point.
    Since we now considering opinions and in defense of Hillary, when you consider Trump's behaviors and actions, as well as those of some of his supporters for the past 4 years, in my opinion, she has been more than proven correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leapfrog View Post
    Since we now considering opinions and in defense of Hillary, when you consider Trump's behaviors and actions, as well as those of some of his supporters for the past 4 years, in my opinion, she has been more than proven correct.
    No, she has proven to have been too kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leapfrog View Post
    Since we now considering opinions and in defense of Hillary, when you consider Trump's behaviors and actions, as well as those of some of his supporters for the past 4 years, in my opinion, she has been more than proven correct.
    Hillary's disdain for American workers is still a de facto plank of the Democratic Party and seems to be reflected by your comment.

    I did consider Trump's behaviors and actions. I don't like a lot of his behaviors but I appreciate that Trump hasn't gotten us into any new conflicts on the level of Syria, Libya, Aghanistan, or Iraq, has actually reached out and spent time with Putin, Xi, and Kim, has increased employment among blacks, women and unskilled workers to record or very high levels, has tried to get things made in the U.S. by Americans, has prioritized the wants and needs of American workers over those of foreign workers and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, removed the U.S. from phony treaties that disadvantaged American workers. Peace and prosperity for American working families is, in my opinion, a good thing. Joe Biden's handlers I'm guessing will restore American workers and its middle class to being the Democratic Party's sacrificial classes. The Dem. House has already tried to double an income tax loophole for rich people and pass it on to workers, the middle class, red states, and our children.
    Last edited by oladub; July-18-20 at 07:52 AM.

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    ^^I don't know what movie you're watching, but Trump hasn't done jacksh-t for blacks, women, asians or anyone else for that matter. The economy was turning around, the last months of the Obama administration, so he can't take credit for that. It was bound to turn the corner. It always does. You think he actually cares about ALL Americans? Where is the peace and prosperity you speak of? Maybe for some, not most. He mishandled the pandemic, by not acting swiftly enough, calling it a hoax, costing thousands of lives. Blacks and other people of color, are being killed by white citizens and police. I could go on and on, but there isn't enough room on this page. It ain't all peaches and cream. He is a very racist divisive individual, that I can't wait until he's bounced out of office. This is not to say the Dems will be much better either, but at this point anyone is better than the dictator clown who currently resides in the WH. Politics is nothing but a racket, both sides talk the same language. Some just lie, better than others.
    Last edited by Cincinnati_Kid; July-18-20 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid View Post
    ^^I don't know what movie you're watching, but Trump hasn't done jacksh-t for blacks, women, asians or anyone else for that matter. The economy was turning around, the last months of the Obama administration, so he can't take credit for that. It was bound to turn the corner. It always does. You think he actually cares about ALL Americans? Where is the peace and prosperity you speak of? Maybe for some, not most. He mishandled the pandemic, by not acting swiftly enough, calling it a hoax, costing thousands of lives. Blacks and other people of color, are being killed by white citizens and police. I could go on and on, but there isn't enough room on this page. It ain't all peaches and cream. He is a very racist divisive individual, that I can't wait until he's bounced out of office. This is not to say the Dems will be much better either, but at this point anyone is better than the dictator clown who currently resides in the WH. Politics is nothing but a racket, both sides talk the same language. Some just lie, better than others.
    Under President Obama, black wealth, home ownership rates and income dipped relative to those of whites. Under President Obama, race relations deteriorated as measured by polls. Obama's 'recovery' was the most insipid recovery since the depression paid for with $10T of federal debt still outstanding.

    Under President Trump,
    • The jobless rate for Hispanics hit a record low of 3.9% in September [[2019), while African Americans maintained its lowest rate ever, 5.5%. The unemployment rate for Asian Americans was 2.5% in September. The jobless rate for adult women came in at 3.1%.
    • That's prosperity. l explained the peace. President Obama killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs [['brown people' in the identity politics lexicon), helped destroy the economies of Libya and Syria, and created millions of refugees with his destructive foreign policies. Trump has not done anything on the level of Libya or Syria.
    • The bluest third of states as of July 1 had, on average, 3.77x the CV death rate as the reddest of states. Don't blame Trump for that difference. Trump didn't tell Cuomo to stuff CV patients in nursing homes. Trump didn't tell De Blasio to encourage residents to go out and eat in China town to fight xenophobia. Joe Biden claimed that Trump's reduction of Chinese air travel was "xenophobic". That was Joe's big contribution when CV was spreading worldwide. Is there more Trump could have done.? Yes there is. The U.S. did not do as well as peers Canada and Germany. However, my impression is that craven Democrats were/are more interested in jawboning Trump for the election than in pushing through House legislation to produce more masks and protect U.S. medical producers with tariffs so more medical supplies are made here.
    • As a mostly white person, I hope that every white person or police who kills anyone illegally are fully punished although, it should be noted, whites don't have the highest per capita murder rate.

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    ^^ You can post all the stats you want. I can find some that dispute all those. I'm using the eye test, and for me and others of my ilk, he hasn't done anything, that wasn't going correct itself in the first place. That tax reform was a joke, that will negatively affect everyone but the rich, possibly starting next year, as well as that stimulus payment. You're entitled to your opinion, but lying, corrupted Dump is the wrong man for the job, PERIOD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    has increased employment among blacks, women and unskilled workers to record or very high levels,
    You DO know what the unemployment rate is right now, don't you? Please tell me you aren't that far gone.

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    Just reporting what I am seeing and hearing out there. Educated and intelligent people who voted for Trump in the last election are abandoning him for 2020.

    The top 3 reasons: Sick of the constant conflict. No trust in him to manage a crisis for the best possible outcome. Worried that his desire to fight with any and all comers will start a new war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit View Post
    Just reporting what I am seeing and hearing out there. Educated and intelligent people who voted for Trump in the last election are abandoning him for 2020.



    The top 3 reasons: Sick of the constant conflict. No trust in him to manage a crisis for the best possible outcome. Worried that his desire to fight with any and all comers will start a new war.
    What and who creates the conflict?

    The problem is all one hears is Trump supporters this and Trump supporters that,putting aside that most have already posted that Trump supporters are uneducated now all of the sudden there are educated and intelligent people that voted for Trump.

    I guess it works if one prefers an agenda and uses the uneducated voters when convenient then we can always switch to the educated voters if that fits an agenda.

    Heres the bombshell news.

    People that voted for Trump did not vote for him because they wanted to swap spit with him in the shower,they voted for him because it was long past due for change in this country.

    If one cannot look at the shape the city’s are in,the amount of collage graduates working in service jobs,the total lack of opportunity for the inner cities for the last 50 years,the trade programs that became non existent for those to obtain skills to use in order to make a decent living.

    The lack of opportunity for everybody,the homeownership dreams that built communities in the past,the pensions that many have worked all their life so they can enjoy their retirement in the pride that they deserve,that evaporated away because of poor choices not on them,people having to work 3 jobs in order to make ends meet etc. etc.

    I could go on with a 75 mile post as to all the reasons people voted for Trump.

    They voted for America,Trump just happens to be the vessel that it took in order to get it done.

    The ones shouting free free free and it is the evil corporations that is the demise of this country only want to see it in the dirt and that is their only agenda.

    People give a damn about this country and where it was headed,they do not have time for the whiners going on about Trump did this or Trump did that,most have already raised little children and it’s not their responsibility to raise the failed adult children running about being triggered over anything pro America.

    Nobody cares if you do not like the guy or not,your agenda is disruptive,disrespectful to the country and your fellow Americans.

    It is indicative of everybody else is to blame,because it is easy that way.

    Its not Trump creating the divide,it is you guys crying about everything he does to improve this country for everybody,and not destroy it for your own personal agenda.

    That is why the opposition hates him,it’s not about who he is,it is because he represents America and that’s where the hate comes in.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to understand the socialists and Marxists are going to stand up on their soapboxes and scream at the world how screwed up anybody pro America is a POS,it’s what they do and always have done.

    They just really suck at losing.

    Thats why you guys loved Obama so much,even after he threw millions into the streets while securing multi million dollar employment contracts for his friends with the big pharmaceutical companies,hedge funds,and top banking institutions along with Wall Street.

    It shows the hypocrisy of your cause,you loved him because he helped throw everybody in the street,which poverty for all is your main objective, but you failed to even have a problem with his connections with everything else you hate in this world.

    In Obama own words .. he did not build that,he did not build anything actually,all he did really was transfer the wealth from the poorest to the richest and profit from it once out of office and wipe out consumer and investor confidence to levels we had not seen in over 50 years.
    Last edited by Richard; July-19-20 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit View Post
    The top 3 reasons: Sick of the constant conflict. No trust in him to manage a crisis for the best possible outcome. Worried that his desire to fight with any and all comers will start a new war.
    The "conflict" is almost entirely artifically generated by the evil elites,. whose power is threatened by Pres Trump. The Clinton, Soros, Gates, CFR, etc, etc that have ruled the country for decades, and also by their minions in the media, the Soros sponsored BLM, Hollywood elites, etc.

    Those folks tell us that everything the president says is divisive and racist,.. when it's not, and that we should be angry and hate, when there's no reason to, and that the economy is terrible when it's fine, and that violence against minorities is way out of control and disproportionate when it isn't.

    This is the elites and satanic deep state fighting back. Fighting for it's life. Fighting to not only not loose power, but to stay out of prison.

    "IF" this Gileane Maxwell, pizza-gate, pedo-island thing gets prosecuted,.. then we may see a house-cleaning. hundreds of Hollywood types, 1/2 of Congress, dozens of corporate CEO's etc going to prison for life,... as pedophiles and rapists. And perhaps WE can have OUR country back.

    Draining the Swamp was always going to get ugly. Those that voted for that by electing Mr. Trump were ready for that.
    Last edited by Bigdd; July-19-20 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    You DO know what the unemployment rate is right now, don't you? Please tell me you aren't that far gone.
    Yes I do know that the unemployment rate was affected by Covid-19 in the United States and most other countries. If a comet wiped out New York City, you would probably blame resulting unemployment losses there on President Trump.

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    ^^^LOL! Trump for sure has issues [[to say the least). So many unnecessary, careless comments re. the COVID and other failures - but a comet too!?

    Say it ain't so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Yes I do know that the unemployment rate was affected by Covid-19 in the United States and most other countries. If a comet wiped out New York City, you would probably blame resulting unemployment losses there on President Trump.
    So for a black person or a woman who had a job last year, and is now unemployed due to Trump's disastrous handling of COVID-19, how grateful should they be exactly to Donald Trump for the fact that they HAD a job? HAD, as in "past tense", as in "was employed but is no longer." Those unemployed ingrates, why can't they be more grateful for what they once had but no longer have because our country is run by an anti-science demagogue who is openly hostile to any attempt to stem the spread of the virus?

    Funny that you bring up that other countries also had their unemployment rates affected by COVID-19. Let's compare, shall we?

    USA: 11.1% [[June 2020)
    UK: 3.9% [[May 2020)
    France: 8.1% [[May 2020)
    Germany: 6.4% [[June 2020)
    Italy: 7.8% [[May 2020)

    Weird how those other countries have lower unemployment rates during COVID, even thought their pre-COVID unemployment rates were HIGHER than ours. Also weird that the UK is doing so well, considering they were hit even harder than we were. Oh well, perhaps national leadership does matter after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    So for a black person or a woman who had a job last year, and is now unemployed due to Trump's disastrous handling of COVID-19, how grateful should they be exactly to Donald Trump for the fact that they HAD a job? HAD, as in "past tense", as in "was employed but is no longer."
    The answer to that is "not at all." Why? because the recovery was built entirely on Obama's policies. Trump did nothing to encourage recovery. If you claim he did, point out a policy and show data supporting it improving the job picture.

    In fact, most metrics SLOWED from their trajectory in the last two years of Obama's administration, and there is plenty of documentation to back that up. In fact, the one area Trump claimed he was going to improve - industrial investment - DECREASED under Trump.

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    Trump is done. He fumbled the ball at the goal line.

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    Well we have news from Kanye's third-party bid this week:

    -He made the ballot in the critical swing state of Oklahoma by paying $35,000 to the state in lieu of collecting signatures. There goes Joe Biden's chances in OK!

    -He missed the ballot deadline in South Carolina after he failed to come close to collecting the number of signatures he needs.

    -He held his first campaign rally in South Carolina in which he insulted the legacy of Harriet Tubman and endorsed the government paying women $1 million each if they have a baby as part of his anti-abortion platform. There were almost 3.8 million births in the U.S. in 2018, so do the math on how much that would cost the taxpayer [[hint: it would be $3.8 TRILLION).

    He also wore a bulletproof vest for his closed-door, invite-only campaign event and said a bunch of other crazy sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Well we have news from Kanye's third-party bid this week:

    -He made the ballot in the critical swing state of Oklahoma by paying $35,000 to the state in lieu of collecting signatures. There goes Joe Biden's chances in OK!

    -He missed the ballot deadline in South Carolina after he failed to come close to collecting the number of signatures he needs.

    -He held his first campaign rally in South Carolina in which he insulted the legacy of Harriet Tubman and endorsed the government paying women $1 million each if they have a baby as part of his anti-abortion platform. There were almost 3.8 million births in the U.S. in 2018, so do the math on how much that would cost the taxpayer [[hint: it would be $3.8 TRILLION).

    He also wore a bulletproof vest for his closed-door, invite-only campaign event and said a bunch of other crazy sh*t.
    This has got to be a political stunt at best. Who would vote for him? On second thought, I never thought any sane person would vote for Trump either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid View Post
    Trump is done. He fumbled the ball at the goal line.

    How do you like your Crow?

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    A Trump-supporting Right Wing "Men's Rights" attorney attempted to assassinate an Obama-appointed Latina judge in New Jersey.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...psy-story.html

    Roy Den Hollander, a lawyer who specializes in "anti-feminist" lawsuits [[such as suing bars for having a Ladies' Night) and has appeared multiple times on Fox News, dressed up as a FedEx delivery man and attacked the home of Federal District Court Judge Esther Salas. Salas was appointed to the federal bench by Obama and was the first Latina to sit on the federal court in the state.

    The Judge wasn't home at the time of the attack, but Hollander murdered the Judge's son and gravely wounded her husband. Hollander fled the scene and later shot himself.

    Roy Den Hollander: Another MAGA TERRORIST.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdd View Post
    The "conflict" is almost entirely artifically generated by the evil elites,. whose power is threatened by Pres Trump. The Clinton, Soros, Gates, CFR, etc, etc that have ruled the country for decades, and also by their minions in the media, the Soros sponsored BLM, Hollywood elites, etc.

    Those folks tell us that everything the president says is divisive and racist,.. when it's not, and that we should be angry and hate, when there's no reason to, and that the economy is terrible when it's fine, and that violence against minorities is way out of control and disproportionate when it isn't.

    This is the elites and satanic deep state fighting back. Fighting for it's life. Fighting to not only not loose power, but to stay out of prison.

    "IF" this Gileane Maxwell, pizza-gate, pedo-island thing gets prosecuted,.. then we may see a house-cleaning. hundreds of Hollywood types, 1/2 of Congress, dozens of corporate CEO's etc going to prison for life,... as pedophiles and rapists. And perhaps WE can have OUR country back.

    Draining the Swamp was always going to get ugly. Those that voted for that by electing Mr. Trump were ready for that.
    That's straight up QAnon paranoia.
    And it's perfectly consistent with other lunacy you've posted here.

    You think Barack Obama is Muslim, he's gay, and he was born in Indonesia.

    You think Michelle Obama is a transsexual.
    You think Joan Rivers was assassinated for saying so.

    For your sake and your family's, sincerely, take a break from the Internet and use the time to get your head straight.

    Where We Go One
    QAnon believers, united in a battle against what they see as dark forces of the world, reveal where the internet is headed.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/p...ory-virus.html

    We Go All
    One QAnon believer’s journey through faith and loss — and what becomes of reality as we move online.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/p...tok-virus.html

    Those link to the final episodes of the "Rabbit Hole" podcast. For anyone interested in the Internet and its effects on us I highly recommend the whole series.
    Last edited by bust; July-21-20 at 05:11 AM.

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