Welcome To Trump World

[Richard]

^ you had a pair of those sitting around for your costume?

[rb336]

^ you had a pair of those sitting around for your costume?

Yes, for when I go out as a Trump supporter

[Richard]

Yes, for when I go out as a Trump supporter

Thats okay,I go to Bernie rallies in short shorts,stockings with a garter and 9” heels and woman parts strapped to my head.

Thank God he dropped out,that whole leg shaving thing is a royal PIA and my ankles were killing me.

[Zacha341]

^^^ Oh my things have taken a terrible turn here......

[Jimaz]

Robert Reich: Trump's Failed Coronavirus Response

Former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich provides a day-by-day account of Trump’s failed response to the coronavirus crisis, and explains how the administration’s incompetence and narcissism has cost countless lives.

"We pretty much shut it down."

"Coronavirus is very much under control."

"It's going to be down to close to zero."

Trump's priority has never been public health. It's been to downplay the virus in order to boost his shot at reelection.

This is not leadership. This is the exact opposite of leadership.

[oladub]

Its a treat being lectured by an economist about health who didn't even see the 2009 recession coming. I found a similar trove of Democratic quotes about Covid-19. Reich must have missed them too.

-After Trump in January declared a “humanitarian and security crisis" during a primetime Oval Office address, Sen. Chuck Schumer, speaking beside House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, said Trump was working to “manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration."
-Tom Perez also called it “manufactured.”
-Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., described it as a "'crisis' that doesn't exist."
-Sen. Elizabeth Warren tweeted at the time that "we're not falling" for the "fake crisis."
-Jan 14 - the WHO [[World Health Organization) sent out a tweet declaring that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the COVID-19 virus.
-Jan 24 - Dr. Anthony Fauci said - “ Covid 19 It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously,"
-January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic".
-February 2 - New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot, “The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I’m going to be there.”
-February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease.
-Bill DiBlasio 03/2/20 “ I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives. Get out on the town despite Coronavirus.
-March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT shut down travel
-March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow [[as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope.
-January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu.
-March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January.

Remind us what Democrats were focused on in January.

[Honky Tonk]

Its a treat being lectured by an economist about health who didn't even see the 2009 recession coming. I found a similar trove of Democratic quotes about Covid-19. Reich must have missed them too.

-After Trump in January declared a “humanitarian and security crisis" during a primetime Oval Office address, Sen. Chuck Schumer, speaking beside House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, said Trump was working to “manufacture a crisis, stoke fear and divert attention from the turmoil in his administration."
-Tom Perez also called it “manufactured.”
-Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., described it as a "'crisis' that doesn't exist."
-Sen. Elizabeth Warren tweeted at the time that "we're not falling" for the "fake crisis."
-Jan 14 - the WHO [[World Health Organization) sent out a tweet declaring that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the COVID-19 virus.
-Jan 24 - Dr. Anthony Fauci said - “ Covid 19 It isn't something the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about, because we have ways of preparing and screening of. It's a very, very low risk to the United States, but it's something that we as public health officials need to take very seriously,"
-January 29, 2020 Joe Biden in a speech in Iowa said that Trump's idea of restricting travel from China was "Xenophobic".
-February 2 - New York City Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot, “The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low and our preparedness as a city is very high. There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday. I’m going to be there.”
-February 24, 2020 Nancy Pelosi says from San Francisco's China Town to come visit, it is safe and "there are no Coronavirus concerns". Then SF became one of the epicenters of the disease.
-Bill DiBlasio 03/2/20 “ I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives. Get out on the town despite Coronavirus.
-March 9, 2020 Bernie Sanders said he would NOT shut down travel
-March 20, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow [[as well as NY Times) bash Trump for talking about Hydroxy Cloroquin calling it a "fairy tale" and giving people false hope.
-January 24 2020, Joe Scarborough and Minka had a segment where they said "no Americans need to be concerned about COVID-19 and should be more concerned about the common flu.
-March 30, 2020 Morning Joe anchors say "everyone saw this coming in early January.

Remind us what Democrats were focused on in January.

To be fair, Democrats were focusing on more important issues, like impeaching Trump with the ironclad evidence they had in their possession. Who had time to stock up on masks?

[Richard]

All they have done now is trade the word,impeachment,for Corona virus,with the added ammunition of a crashed economy and thousands dead,their view of a perfect storm.

[canuck]

All they have done now is trade the word,impeachment,for Corona virus,with the added ammunition of a crashed economy and thousands dead,their view of a perfect storm.

It’s a hoax I say, fake news by the fake media to undermine our Chumpty Dumpty.

[Maof]

"You're so vain....."

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4869035/user-clip-trump-big-fat-beautiful-check-it

[Richard]

^ That was probably to see how many that claim he is not their president would cash a check with his name on it.

[Jimaz]

The COVID Class Divide, Trump's Narcissism & Handouts for the 1%
The Common Good with Robert Reich

In this episode of The Common Good, Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich discusses the outrage that is Steve Mnuchin, how coronavirus is far from “the great equalizer," Trump blaming the World Health Organization for his own failure to respond while delaying stimulus checks to boost his own ego, and Senate Republicans tucking a $90 billion secret tax change into the coronavirus bill — 80% of which will benefit people making more than $1 million a year. Even during a global pandemic, we’re seeing more socialism for the rich, harsh capitalism for the rest.

Inequality Media Civic Action with Robert Reich is a digital media organization aimed at debunking right-wing lies, educating the public about inequality and imbalance of power, and breaking down solutions to the economic and structural issues plaguing our country. We provide a platform for you to learn, share your ideas, and, hopefully, mobilize your communities to make change for the common good.

[Richard]

^ do you actually think it is cool to post and spread blatant fake and false propaganda?

Show your evidence that President Trump delayed stimulus checks when he signed the order as soon as it was put in front of him?

WHO did not declare a pandemic until over 30 days after President Trump took actions to stop the spread into this country.

The WHO was right alongside of the commie democrats crying racist for closing the borders.

You guys keep crying about transfer of wealth but now have championed for two organizations that the United States Gives billions to every year.

So you do not have a problem with the transfer of wealth as long as it goes to where you agree with.

So now that it has been posted show the facts of where Trump delayed the stimulus.

It is also noticeable that the democrats held up the stimulus package not only the first time but also round two.

No problem with that ?

[Maof]

Richard...Not that it matters but, WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11th. Trump declared a national emergency on March 13th, this was after many states had already done so.

As far as that stimulus check, it's our money anyway. Thank God for direct deposit

[oladub]

WHO did not declare a pandemic until over 30 days after President Trump took actions to stop the spread into this country.

WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11th. Trump declared a national emergency on March 13th, this was after many states had already done so.

Richard's statement is correct. Trump restricted travel from China on January 31. Maof is almost correct that WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11. One is an action to stop its spread and the other is a declaration. Actions speak louder than words. Better late than never words can be helpful though.

While on the topic of 'words' -
-Empty vessel Biden quickly responded to Trump's action in the context of "Trump's "record of hysteria, xenophobia and fear-mongering". Later, on April 3, Biden said he approved of Trump's January 31 restrictions.

-Progressive news font Vox declared on Jan.31 that this wan't going to be a pandemic. A week earlier, Vox wrote that "The evidence on travel bans for diseases like coronavirus is clear: They don’t work."

-On Feb.3, "World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said...there was no need for measures that “unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade” in trying to halt the spread of a coronavirus that has killed 361 people in China."

-In March, Bernie insisted at that he wouldn't consider closing the U.S. border to prevent the spread of coronavirus, before condemning what he called the president's xenophobia.

[Maof]

Here is a timeline [[situation reports) from the WHO website regarding the virus........https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...uation-reports

[Richard]

Richard...Not that it matters but, WHO declared it a pandemic on March 11th. Trump declared a national emergency on March 13th, this was after many states had already done so.

As far as that stimulus check, it's our money anyway. Thank God for direct deposit

Jan 31 The US president imposed travel restrictions from China

February 3rd the response from the WHO

WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus

GENEVA [[Reuters) - World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Monday there was no need for measures that “unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade” in trying to halt the spread of a coronavirus that has killed 361 people in China.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1ZX1H3

March 10th The Democrats introduce a bill to rescind the Presidents travel ban

House Republican leaders are calling on Speaker Nancy Pelosi [[D-Calif.) to pull a bill that would rescind President Trump’s controversial travel ban, arguing it could hinder the administration’s ability to limit the number of individuals entering the U.S. from countries that have faced widespread outbreaks of coronavirus.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...er-coronavirus

March 12th

Public Health Experts Question Trump's Ban On Most Travelers From Europe

"From a public health perspective, it's remarkably pointless," says Francois Balloux, an epidemiologist at University College London who worked with the World Health Organization on the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic. Balloux says closing borders only works in the very early days of an outbreak, or for countries that haven't yet detected any cases at all. The U.S., as of Thursday afternoon, had confirmed 1,323 cases.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...rs-from-europe


So against the recommendations of all of the experts and WHO,the president implemented a travel ban,something every country implemented days later in order to stop the spread.

The democrats and republicans sat down a worked out a stimulus package,it was ready to be sent to the presidents desk for signing.

Before it could be sent to the president Pelosi had to sign off as leader of the house democrats.

Pelosi was on vacation while the package was being negotiated by the house and senate.

Pelosi returns from vacation and instead of signing the stimulus package,she tries to rework it to include climate change,Green energy requirements,future emissions restrictions on aircraft and automobile companies etc.

Yes it is our money,but make no mistake as to who and why it was held up,to post saying it was held up by the president is false.

[rb336]

^ That was probably to see how many that claim he is not their president would cash a check with his name on it.

Another entry into the "incredibly idiotic things Richard posted" hall of stupidity.

[Richard]

Another entry into the "incredibly idiotic things Richard posted" hall of stupidity.

as usual you have zero to contribute outside of your own little butt hurt feelings.

Do you need a snickers bar?

Thank you for checking in though,good to see you are still hanging in there.

[Zacha341]

More annoying I'd think is the 'check cashing fee' PUT ON IT [[from these jerk check-cashing-joints for those w/o direct deposit or a bank!

^ That was probably to see how many that claim he is not their president would cash a check with his name on it.

[Maof]

And he downplayed it for two months........"this is a pandemic, I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic"

[Richard]

And he downplayed it for two months........"this is a pandemic, I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic"

But yet it is clear as to what states did their job and prepared for it.

He did what he could at the federal level even against the opposition,were you one of those calling him racist as he was shutting down the travel?

That is exactly what happened and now you expect us to believe you feel he should have done more?

It was smack dab in the middle of the impeachment with everybody chanting F*** him,impeach him.

You guys did not and would not have paid attention to anything he did or said anyways.

It is all documented who did not do anything and who did and when,kinda hard to dispute that,no matter where your politics lay or refuse to believe.

That is exactly why we are where we are at,Trump speaks and it is fingers in the ears while singing,bla bla bla

How has that worked out in the past 3.5 years let alone now?

Honestly I believe that if Trump has recommended a stay at home back in January it would have been met with the same results,racist prick ordering me to stay at home.

You guys have hundreds of posts not listening or paying attention to a word he said and have built a platform on resist.

Where did it get you? No lessons learned but continue to blame others.

It does not matter who is president,they are not a all power in control of the country outside of federal matters,You kinda lose the right to complain when you have spent the last 3.5 years not listening or supporting anything he does whether it is good for the country as a whole or not.

I say you but not you personally unless of course if the shoe fits wear it as they say,it is your right,but with that right comes consequences for actions,as you can see.

March 3rd 2020 this is what the WHO had to say

First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.
With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/deta...--3-march-2020

This is your words being repeated verbatim

https://www.lacortenews.com/n/dan-cr...virus-response


Funny thing about the internet and facts,you cannot erase them.

[canuck]

It's a big hoax, fake news, it's all gonna go away real soon, we are doing great.

It's all on record, Ricky.

[Richard]

It's a big hoax, fake news, it's all gonna go away real soon, we are doing great.

It's all on record, Ricky.

I was in the hospital January 5th and 6th,at that time the doctors were asking me questions about recent travel,if I had been experienced a fever etc. nothing to do with why I was in the hospital.

On the 5th the nurses and staff were all happy go lucky,on the 6th they were walking around with looks on their faces of fear,I was discharged along with many others who were confused as to why they were being discharged early.

Remember back at the beginning of February I asked you if Canada was going to pull their troops out of Africa because when this thing hits it will hit hard.

At that time I also posted here that Now was the time for people to stock up,and buy ammo.

Beginning of February.

You are going to tell me that some weirdo from Florida with a tenth grade education can see what all the highly educated folks could not?

I did not need a babysitter to tell me what was going to happen,even more so I was not blinded with the laser focus on impeachment like you guys were,China was being hit and Italy was catching it,stands to reason that it will travel,even more so when the infected cruise ship docked in Vietnam for quarantine and the US citizens jumped ship to escape the quarantine.

I know how people are,if a ship hit a US port and somebody thinks they will be in quarantine for 14 days,they will think of only themselves and jump ship and fly from a non quarantine location back to the states and spread it.

Nobody was going to stop it.

Trump issued travel restrictions on Jan 31 when there was 103 cases in the US

Canada issued travel restrictions on March 12 ,after Tru-doe had already contracted the virus.

I will stick with Trump.

The people that needed to know,knew in January,they chose to take preventive measures.

You can clearly see in the US the states that choose to prepare back then verses the states that were still screaming impeach the MFR.

You like many Americans are confused as to how the American system works when it comes to the federal government verses the states and how much power the president has over the states.

On February 1st Florida added an additional $600 to food stamp recipients so they could stock up and prepare,they put out a public notice that if you were feeling sick to use the local clinics at no charge and not to go to the hospitals.

They did not come up with that overnight,regardless of what the president said,it was up to the individual states to do what it took to prepare at that time in case if it hit the US.

Trump institutes travel restrictions,the Dems cry racist while Pelosi tells the people of California to go visit Chinatown and catch a movie because there was no worry.

Good thing the real leaders of California had their shit together and did what it took to prepare and it now shows.

You also spend your days pointing on the doll where the Orange man hurt you and now you really expect me to believe that you are triggered over something Trump said while your own president waited until he was infected before actually doing something?

Some glass house.

America is not like Canada we do not have the government so far up our rear ends that we are not allowed to think or act for ourselves,most of us still have freedom of thought and when we see some nasty thing heading our way,we can independently act without our daddy,it is what we refer to as grown up stuff.

Grown up stuff also includes personal responsibility and not looking to blame others for our own inactions.

You can see our liberals and your liberals have a lot in common,make everybody dependent on the federal government so when the SHTF they are like a deer in the headlights,unable to make a move without guidance.

But at least our liberals believe in feeding the school children,so our liberals are better then your liberals.eh

With a 102 reported cases in January are you really going to shut an entire country and economy down for 325 million people after giving zero time to prepare?

You saw what happened when people had notice,they ran out to buy toilet paper.

He did exactly what he should have,while knowing people were going to die and there was nothing anybody could have done to stop it,he bought the majority of the population time to prepare the best that they could,before they were forced into the quarantine.

That is what leaders do in times like this,they balance an acceptable population loss over the well being of the majority,it is done in battle all of the time.

The sad reality is China and Italy already proved in December and January that people were going to die no matter what anybody did or did not do.

January and February was all about mitigating losses and doing what one can do to save the most amount of lives.

The unknown factor to the Feds was the states that did not maintain their pandemic stores and then relied on the federal government to be the first responders when it is well known that it is not their role.

The New York Governor was demanding from the start,ventilators and supplies saying they did not have enough,turns out they did not have enough for the charity hospitals but there was plenty in the private sector hospitals.

They were a hot spot but they were a well supplied hot spot in house,so they start all of that drama which in turn screwed Detroit which actually needed the supplies even more.

So Cuomo's response was,we were saving our stuff for if it got bad,which in my opinion cost lives in Detroit unnecessarily because New York had enough supplies but consumed the federal governments time with a lie at a time the federal government should have been propping up Detroit.

But that was Coumo thinking about saving lives in his state at the expense of lives in another state,he was beholden to New York and New York only.

He was in front of the cameras every day complaining about Trump and lack of supplies while he was sitting on warehouses full of supplies that he was saving.

Not to even mention his hospitals putting in orders for 300,000 KN95 masks for free from the federal government and then turning around and putting them
back on the open market for resale.

Those masks could have went to another hot spot and provided relief there.

What Trump May or May not have said in January,is the least of the worries of the BS that has gone on in this country.

Look closely at those claiming that he has cost lives,you will find the ones claiming it the loudest,are the ones that are actually costing lives.

[Maof]

"Yes it is our money,but make no mistake as to who and why it was held up,to post saying it was held up by the president is false."



I never said anything about the stimulus checks being held up. But, why the need to have his name printed on them? Just another example of his narcissism.