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**Jimaz** · October-24-19, 08:03 PM

Former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich explains what the Constitution's Emoluments Clause is and how Trump is entangled in it.

**Richard** · October-24-19, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Maof

He used the word "phony". Same difference.

Yes,after describing the benefits of useing Doral logistics wise he said he was not going to continue pursuing it because the next thing you know is they will be pushing phony emoluments clause accusations against me.

He offered it for free,if it was legal to do so,he is not involved or directly linked and was not excepting compensation or salary for it.

As usual the left twisted it into he was calling the actual emoluments clause phony,when it was actually thier phony actions that he was calling out.

In Hillary tradition they can do no wrong and anybody that does not tow thier warped line and actually thinks for themself are deplorable.

That is thier whole game,do what we say as we say and tow our line or we will think of a bunch of 6 year old names to call you.

The second discussion

“I don’t think you people, with this phony emoluments clause—and by the way, I would say that it’s cost me anywhere from $2 billion to $5 billion to be president—and that’s okay—between what I lose and what I could have made.”

The whole discussion was about how can he be accused of violating the emoluments clause when he is losing money while in office and not profiting like those before him,as J5 also posted.

**Maof** · October-25-19, 08:11 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4CnhOCn7Hm/....

**Zacha341** · October-25-19, 08:48 AM

Uhh, has the impeachment started yet?

**Richard** · October-25-19, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Uhh, has the impeachment started yet?

Yea,they are working on it,like nothing else,they ask thier supporters to please hold their breath as they will have bombshell news soon.

**canuck** · October-25-19, 01:26 PM

I don't care what anybody says. I like Chump.

**Richard** · October-25-19, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by canuck

I don't care what anybody says. I like Chump.

awwww and I am sure he likes you tooo,if you send him a PM maybe he will send you a gallon or two of some good ol American whole milk for Christmas.

None of that cheap 1% crap for our north of the border buddies,only the good stuff.

**Dan Wesson** · October-26-19, 01:24 PM

Did I hear this right?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...sia-nr-vpx.cnn

That last line says it all?

**oladub** · October-30-19, 06:42 PM

Now we know the name and a little bit about the whistleblower at the center of Coup II. Its 33 year old CIA employee and political activist Eric Ciarmella. He's the son of a bank executive. It will be interesting to hear Edward Snowden's take on Eric Ciarmella.

How 'Whistleblower' May Be Outed:
Ties to Biden, Brennan, Schiff's Staff, Etc.

**oladub** · October-30-19, 06:48 PM

link to above article "How Whistleblower"

https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html

**rb336** · November-05-19, 01:04 PM

Who cares who the whistleblower is? Trumps own words - and the heavily truncated document of the call - clearly show him asking for help from a foreign government to investigate a political rival, in clear violation of Federal election laws. QED

**Dan Wesson** · November-05-19, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

Who cares who the whistleblower is? Trumps own words - and the heavily truncated document of the call - clearly show him asking for help from a foreign government to investigate a political rival, in clear violation of Federal election laws. QED

Like you said; Who cares?

I'm gonna use a word I'm seeing more and more...

Irrelevant.

What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander.

How do accommodate conflict without total all out warfare.

Tit for tat.

**oladub** · November-06-19, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by rb336

Who cares who the whistleblower is? Trumps own words - and the heavily truncated document of the call - clearly show him asking for help from a foreign government to investigate a political rival, in clear violation of Federal election laws. QED

The link in post 3687 probably identifies the whistleblower. I fault Trump for carrying over Obama staffers and political operatives who have proven they can't be trusted. "Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government." Biden's office invited Ciaramella to hang out with Comey and Clapper. This is the same Clapper who lied to Congress without being punished.

Ciaramella was a political activist and deep state operative who used his position to promote the coup. That's one reason we should care about who the 'whistleblower' is.

Speaking of coups- The elephants in the room include the same cast of characters including the CIA and Obma administration who helped overthrow the elected government of Ukraine and Libya that led to Russia responding by invading and occupying Crimea and destroyed and turned Libya into an ISIS half way house. Maybe this bunch will do better conducting a coup at home.

I watched Jimaz' link too. Although corporate puppet Robert Reich championed policies that led to the housing crises and recession, he failed to predict that recession coming. Having failed as an economist, he is branching into the Constitution of all things. Speaking of emoluments, he failed to notice the millions of Russian dollars that went into the Clinton Family Foundation, the coincidental appointments of a former CIA official and Biden's son to the Burisma board or Hillary's campaign paying for a British firm to manufacture the piss-gate manuscript that was handed to alphabet agencies to undermine the Trump candidacy.

**Richard** · November-05-19, 01:59 PM

^ so based on that,any democrat currently running for president can collude with the Russians in order to win the 2020 election with impunity,because if the president called for an investigation it would be viewed as investigation of a political rival?

You are discussing a foreign country where a comedian won office because everybody before him in the government was corrupt,so the president was within his right to question how the investigation was going when it comes to corruption and United States political figures.

Why should a US politician receive immunity simply because they are a political opponent?

Biden and or his son was already involved in the investigation before Trump even took office so the question of the president asking for updates to that investigation is within his right and would be expected.

**Dan Wesson** · November-05-19, 05:22 PM

I have come to the conclusion that the folks who wish the worst and most outrageous misfortunes on Trump should just say they hate the man.

These attempts to justify their hatred many times makes them look unjustified based on false premises. Chicken Little Syndrome.

You don't like the guy?
Make it short and sweet.
Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

**Zacha341** · November-06-19, 06:56 AM

^^^ Hah! Your last statement is the rub! The horse he rode in on includes the rule of law, the republic etc.

If we justify and sacrifice all of that to take down a president what will that mean for rank and file individual rights and due process [[the horse so to speak)?

Increasingly at the behest of politics we're being asked to not question a society where you can be accused, with secret testimonies, hidden accusers, double judged if you respond, etc.

All is justified until it's someone you like, or you, your business or family member[[s).

**rb336** · November-06-19, 09:54 AM

We have a president who is waging an all-out assault on the rule of law. Read our election laws. Read the Emoluments Clauses. Learn what "emoluments" means. You are willing to sacrifice that to support the most corrupt administration in history.

Originally Posted by Zacha341

^^^ Hah! Your last statement is the rub! The horse he rode in on includes the rule of law, the republic etc.

If we justify and sacrifice all of that to take down a president what will that mean for rank and file individual rights and due process [[the horse so to speak)?

**Zacha341** · November-06-19, 10:37 AM

First off I GET IT, fully, I really do, but I shall we in turn destroy [[congress, et al) the rule of law in order to remove him?

There has to be a way that does not so adversely affect how judicial laws will be applied to individuals going forth.

Secondly, I did not say I desire to support this admin. But again I'm looking at the fallout beyond THIS ADMIN, beyond this man.

Are we to BECOME what we are going after?

Sadly, IMO I think the answer is YES to those who want to BRING IT ALL DOWN, anyway.

Originally Posted by rb336

We have a president who is waging an all-out assault on the rule of law. Read our election laws. Read the Emoluments Clauses. Learn what "emoluments" means. You are willing to sacrifice that to support the most corrupt administration in history.

**aj3647** · November-06-19, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

First off I GET IT, fully, I really do, but I shall we in turn destroy [[congress, et al) the rule of law in order to remove him?

Who's doing that? Impeachment is a CONSTITUTIONAL process, 100% legal. Did you all forget that just 20 years ago, Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job? Was THAT a coup too, or only when the Constitution gets applied to Republican Presidents?

You all are a bunch of hypocrites. Everything the Democrats have done thus far is 100% legal and in full accordance with Constitutional procedures and the rules/policies governing the House of Representatives. It's not a coup, if you don't like the Impeachment process, take it up with the Founding Fathers who created it.

**aj3647** · November-06-19, 12:11 PM

Meanwhile in Trump World, there were some elections last night. You guys didn't do so hot, LOL!

Democrats FLIP the Kentucky Governor's mansion, despite Trump going all out to rescue Republican Governor Matt Bevin.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...or-in-kentucky

Trump held a rally for Bevin in Kentucky the night before the election, implored Kentucky residents "not to let this happen to him" [[referring to a Bevin loss), and tried to nationalize the race by making it a referendum on the Democrats' impeachment of him. He STILL lost.

Democrats FLIP both chambers of the Virginia State Assembly, giving them trifecta control over the entire state.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...a-state-senate

But hey, you held the Governor's Mansion in Mississippi by a mere 5 points, so good job! That's two elections in a row now where the suburbs have told Trump and the GOP to "go fuck yourselves." Best of luck in 2020, boys. 363 days and counting, it's coming.

**Jimaz** · November-06-19, 07:39 AM

Would the Founding Fathers Impeach Trump? with Robert Reich

Former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich explains what the Founding Fathers wanted to protect against when they wrote the impeachment clause of the Constitution.

**Jimaz** · November-08-19, 08:43 PM

It just occurred to me that I haven't seen any Annoying Orange videos for quite a while.

Oh, no! What has His Orangeness done to Annoying Orange to avoid being upstaged and what have his thugs done with the body?