Welcome To Trump World

[ABetterDetroit]

No doubt L. Brooks is a asshole. He survived and flourished in a lily white fairly racist republican county for a long time. The more racists there are the more assholism sells.

Same question as Trump. Will the next county Exec in Oakland be able to build a greater power base on the same rhetoric as L. Brooks?

Nobody answered the original question. Do the people who bleed Republican [[obviously there are many in this thread that’s why I asked) feel that Trump is good for the party and is going to increase its power base long term and in future elections?

It is not hard to figure out that die hard supporters still love Trump. That isn’t in question, but confirm if you must. Just include how he is making the future of the Republican Party brighter if you believe it to be true.

It is fair to say that a Ronald Reagan Trump is not. He doesn’t appear to be winning detractors. Do some supporters think he is?

[coracle]

It’s soooooo funny to see the list of weirdos for the socialist/democrat Presidential Candidate and realize that one of them has to win by default; then contemplate that democrats everywhere will have to vote for him/her/it.

When we get them on TV for the debating it will really look like the bar scene from Star Wars.

[ABetterDetroit]

We It’s soooooo funny to see the list of weirdos for the socialist/democrat Presidential Candidate and realize that one of them has to win by default; then contemplate that democrats everywhere will have to vote for him/her/it.

When we get them on TV for the debating it will really look like the bar scene from Star Wars.

Those debates will be a unprecedented presentation of radical ideas. In that we are in complete agreement. At this rate they are going to need a tri level stage 20 across...

[oladub]

This is obviously all nonsense, because, again, the idiotic tax changes occurred a year after Trump's election, and have nothing to do with Trump's campaign platform. Unless you think that educated people have secret access to a time machine, there is no way that they could have all switched to Dem because they anticipated Congress would institute crazy tax changes a year in the future.

Trump did promise a tax cut. He delivered. A NY Times caption of 12/17 disagrees with you:With Tax Overhaul, Trump Fulfills a Campaign Promise

And the same switch happened in red states, where the tax changes benefit the wealthy. Rich, educated districts in Houston and Dallas and Miami and Orlando went Dem too, when pre-Trump they went Rep. So it makes zero sense.

Yes, rich people didn't like the loosing their tax loophole. The difference is that blue states tend to have higher state and local taxes so more rich people were affected by the change in blue states. Thank you for making my point.

Yes, but you haven't explained the why. Why is that? Why is Trump most appealing to the most ignorant/least educated, and why is Trump loathed by the most educated? Why was this never the case in previous elections?

I love how you insult people you consider beneath your station. That turns off people. Thank you for helping Trump. Hillary didn't help herself by calling American workers "a basket of deplorables" either. I already mentioned some appeals including tariffs on some foreign goods, attempting to reduce the job competition from illegal non-citizen labor and... "Trump withdrew from the TPP, repealed the individual mandate, withdrew from Obama's executive Paris climate deal, passed a major tax bill decreasing the taxes of working and lower middle class workers, expanded tax benefits to parents including day care costs, reduced immigration from 11 countries, and decreased black, Hispanic, and women's unemployment to near record levels." [[From post 2841) Really, most of those things appeal to people a lot of people who aren't insulated with degrees and inheritances. You must have missed that.

Except "working Americans", overwhelmingly, voted for Hillary. The areas supporting Hillary account for well over 70% of the U.S. economic product. The areas that support Trump are those with the lowest workforce participation and least economic productivity. Obviously Manhattan and Silicon Valley are vastly more productive than rural Mississippi and West Virginia.

The areas voting for Hillary don't manufacture computers. That "70% of the U.S. economic product" you mentioned winds up largely in rich peoples' pockets. There are high paid jobs designing software and hardware as well as administrating the business end. Hillary areas also operate banks, insurance companies, the porn business, and, worst of all, harbor more than their share of lawyers. It depends on what you mean by "workers". I was thinking more along the lines of UAW workers in St. Clair Shores which reminds me that after jawboning GM for closing down Lordstown, GM announced that it would spend $300M and hire 400 additional workers at the Orion plant. "Barra said provisions of the proposed new trade agreement among the United States, Mexico and Canada helped persuade GM that the vehicle should be built in the United States." In post 2826, Maof proclaimed, "Plants have closed". Time to take off the sack cloth and thank Trump. You just asked, "Why is Trump most appealing to the most ignorant/least educated." There's your answer.

This is stupid. The U.S. has lower immigration rates than all its competitors, and Reps liked immigration as much as Dems until Klansman-in-Chief Dotard came on the scene to tell all the Deplorables that they're failures in life because of Mexicans. The disdain was obviously shown by Dotard blaming everything on foreigners, not those who oppose Dotard who pointed out his hatred and ignorance.And those areas are rich and productive. I assume you knew that. They have greater income inequality because they have more successful households, something that Republicans used to laud, pre-Trump.

Lower than Germany but much higher than Japan or China's immigration rates. You better take that comment back. I just pointed out that the 4 of 5 places in the USA that exceed the average income inequality of the U.S. are CT, CA, NY, and D.C.. If you want obfuscate with foreign countries, China has the most billionaires.

Again, explain this great inversion. You can't because you know the why. Only idiots, trolls and extremely gullible folks would vote for a lifelong con artist who brags about assaulting women, ripping off taxpayers, consorting with enemies of the U.S., trashes dead war heros, who speaks like a blubbering idiot and is the most lying public figure in recorded history per Polifact.

yawn...

[Jimaz]

Mexicans Have Been Stealing Pieces of The Wall | The Daily Show

Wait for the punchline.

[Jimaz]

We Bought Pool Chairs At Trump’s Bankrupt Taj Mahal Hotel And Casino[[HBO)

[Maof]

This one needs to go and fast. Betsy DeVos wants to cut all funding for Special Olympics.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...unding-n987751

[Maof]

And this one needs to sit down as well. What happened to "separation of church and state. No need for her to cram her beliefs on anyone else and she sounds crazy to boot.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ic-prayer.html

[Honky Tonk]

And this one needs to sit down as well. What happened to "separation of church and state. No need for her to cram her beliefs on anyone else and she sounds crazy to boot.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ic-prayer.html

You mean like the statement about "Jews and Bens"?

[Maof]

We Bought Pool Chairs At Trump’s Bankrupt Taj Mahal Hotel And Casino[[HBO)

He's been "liquidating trumps hotels since 1978"!

[Zacha341]

I get the understanding of separation of church and state [[as properly defined and ascribed). However, I find that concept unequally applied to different faiths, as expedient.

Not saying I agree with the lawmaker, but too often when a Christian conveys their faith publicly they're a fanatic/ Bible-thumper/ right winger.

Otherwise you are simply 'devoted' or spiritual. Hmmmm......

But I get it, keep 'it' private lest you offend or what not. But do know other faiths are not necessarily going to along with that long-term. NOPE.

And this one needs to sit down as well. What happened to "separation of church and state. No need for her to cram her beliefs on anyone else and she sounds crazy to boot.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...ic-prayer.html

[rb336]

Not saying I agree with the lawmaker, but too often when a Christian conveys their faith publicly they're a fanatic/ Bible-thumper/ right winger.

That normally happens when those "conveying their faith publicly" are doing so by calling for governmental rules favoring their religious beliefs. "Govt. should/shouldn't do x because GOD." In other words, when they are trying to cram their beliefs into everyone else's business.

[coracle]

Just finished watching President Trump’s presentation in Grand Rapids.
FABULOUS; PHENOMENAL; WOW!..........FOUR MORE YEARS..........

The message that really stuck for me was his statement that “the democrats are sick people” [[all of them).

[Zacha341]

I here that -- inclusive of the 'those' conveying the faith of secularism humanism upon everyone else's business......!

That normally happens when those "conveying their faith publicly" are doing so by calling for governmental rules favoring their religious beliefs. "Govt. should/shouldn't do x because GOD." In other words, when they are trying to cram their beliefs into everyone else's business.

[coracle]

The

Just finished watching President Trump’s presentation in Grand Rapids.
FABULOUS; PHENOMENAL; WOW!..........FOUR MORE YEARS..........

The message that really stuck for me was his statement that “the democrats are sick people” [[all of them).

On reflection this morning, those weirdos who’ve already decided to represent the democrat party in 2020 are a JOKE. But then I’m sure their “supporters” already know that [[all of them).

[Zacha341]

Well there's alway Biden. He's doing the 'Bash-White-Men' thing again to appease and ingratiate simultaneously [[happy two-fer). Hah!

Who's [[percentage wise) going to vote for that...? Who really, REALLY trusts those who so heartily self loathe their own entire race?

Biden criticizes 'white man's culture' as he talks violence against women

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/polit...ure/index.html

[rb336]

I here that -- inclusive of the 'those' conveying the faith of secularism humanism upon everyone else's business......!

How does secular humanism do so? examples, please.

[Zacha341]

Education is a good start: SH posits that man is an evolved being, whereas other faiths such as Christianity and Islam do not agree to this. In a fair setting both would be taught, but more and more the evolutionary only theory is taught. As public policy/ curriculum. I will reference details in a bit....

[rb336]

Education is a good start: SH posits that man is an evolved being, whereas other faiths such as Christianity and Islam do not agree to this. In a fair setting both would be taught, but more and more the evolutionary only theory is taught. As public policy/ curriculum. I will reference details in a bit....

Hmm, so not teaching RELIGION as science is secular humanism imposing itself? The whole notion that ideas born of mythology is the equal of highly researched fact-based conclusions is laughable. At least to anyone with a functional intellect. Show me one piece of factual information to support that equivalency, and I will take your argument seriously.

[coracle]

Biden was obama’s “choice”; and you can’t start with a bigger negative than that [[even if you’re sparticus, o’rourke, liawatha, sanders et al).

His bash-white-men meme is just his way of making sure he fails because he don’t want the job [[of competing against Trump) but he don’t have the balls to say so.

[Zacha341]

No not exactly, but if your going into it with such a closed mind we're sorta DONE already. And you KNOW I am NOT going down the link, to link, that link, disprove/ prove that link, that link from bad site, thing with you.

I've seen all of that bow too ugly before. Well beyond the original topic.

I'll will try to find something to summarize my points this evening.

In point of fact some religions believe in evolution at a certain level.

[coracle]

Which reminds me. One of Trump’s pluses is that he keeps getting better and better and BETTER with time. The more crap democrats/media throw at him the better he gets at shoving it right back up ‘em; and I think he thrives on it and enjoys it. I know I do, and certainly his audiences do.

My Presidential choices started with Carter and I had to make crap choices eventually between obama/mccain/romney and all the time we had this Titan standing by. It makes one weap. We could have had him a decade ago and extended the terms like FDR!

[Richard]

^ yea I do not know,there is an unconfirmed source that wishes to remain anonymous that says they have proof of President Trump removing a mattress tag in 1954.

That could be picked up by the radical leftists as an impeachable offense.

[Zacha341]

Trump is indeed problematic to say the least, and then you have the far left of the far left who want to BURN the mattress in response to him!

^ yea I do not know,there is an unconfirmed source that wishes to remain anonymous that says they have proof of President Trump removing a mattress tag in 1954.

That could be picked up by the radical leftists as an impeachable offense.

[Honky Tonk]

No doubt L. Brooks is a asshole. He survived and flourished in a lily white fairly racist republican county for a long time. The more racists there are the more assholism sells.

Same question as Trump. Will the next county Exec in Oakland be able to build a greater power base on the same rhetoric as L. Brooks?

Nobody answered the original question. Do the people who bleed Republican [[obviously there are many in this thread that’s why I asked) feel that Trump is good for the party and is going to increase its power base long term and in future elections?

It is not hard to figure out that die hard supporters still love Trump. That isn’t in question, but confirm if you must. Just include how he is making the future of the Republican Party brighter if you believe it to be true.

It is fair to say that a Ronald Reagan Trump is not. He doesn’t appear to be winning detractors. Do some supporters think he is?

First, LBP "flourished" in Oakland County, where you live. Your neighbors, the people around you, [[and maybe even you) kept reelecting him, not "America". That was my point. Second, talking about "cultists" and "die hard", two years after the election, people are still clinging to Hillary's skirt strings and obsessing about Trump. Yes, obsessing. I guess Democracy and racism are convenient only when they work in one's favor.