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  1. #3726

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Ah the Tin Foil Hat crowd. Whatever the Bidens did or did not do - Hunter taking a job for which he had no qualifications is not illegal - skeevy, yes, but not illegal - has NOTHING to do with the jist of the matter. Did the President ASK (it is the ASK that is a violation of our election law, not a "quid pro quo" or threat) a foreign government to provide him with something that would be of value to his election - namely investigating the front runner in the Democratic primary race. The highly edited version of the phone call transcript shows, unequivocally, that he DID just that. QED
    Keep those blinders on rb. It prevents distractions. Maybe blindly dumping money into Ukraine isn't so good for American taxpayers either. Sometimes, if there are too many coincidences it isn't coincidence. Did you expect the House to look into this possible corruption ? Hunter was being gifted $83,000/month and who knows where else our money went. To those of us who have other issues than pursuing the coup, this doesn't look good. When Biden goes down the drain, Hillary, of the Bill and Hillary Clinton Foundation, will have to ride in on her broom to rescue the Deep State and Democratic establishment. Investigating the misuse of taxpayer money in Ukraine isn't going to prevent Hillary from taking over. After all, this isn't like the Fusion GPS English research team secretly hired by the Clinton campaign and Democratic party through their law firm Perkins Coie.

    While I'm at it, I'm also puzzled at the dunces who insist on preventing the name of the whistleblower from being revealed and or being brought in front of the Democratic Holy Inquisition. Our press is betraying us to the extent it is suppressing the news. Anyone who doesn't know who the 'whistleblower' is by now purposely has their head in the sand. Now I'm reading that the 'whistleblower' made trips with Uncle Joe to Ukraine after the successful coup overthrowing the elected government there. It would be interesting to hear about their itineraries.
    Last edited by oladub; November-14-19 at 08:00 PM.

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    Roger Stone, Trump's longtime personal friend and adviser, as well as an adviser to his Presidential Campaign...GUILTY on SEVEN felony counts.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...verdict-guilty

    The jury needed just a day to find him guilty on all seven felony counts he was charged with. He now faces a maximum sentence of up to 50 years in prison.

    Score another one for Mueller! Interesting how Trump is surrounded by so many criminals...

    Next up, Rudy Giuliani, who is currently under federal criminal investigation for campaign finance violations and being an unregistered agent of a foreign government.
    Last edited by aj3647; November-15-19 at 01:48 PM.

  3. #3728

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    Threatening a witness testifying before Congress via Twitter? Obstruction of justice ya think? I hope for his and her sake that woman doesn’t get hurt.

    He must be just building his case so he can resign finally. Either that or he’s just plain crazy. How is Pence doing against the field lately anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit View Post
    Threatening a witness testifying before Congress via Twitter? Obstruction of justice ya think? I hope for his and her sake that woman doesn’t get hurt.

    He must be just building his case so he can resign finally. Either that or he’s just plain crazy. How is Pence doing against the field lately anyway?
    What were the words Trump used 'threatening' Ambassador Yovanovitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post

    Next up, Rudy Giuliani, who is currently under federal criminal investigation for campaign finance violations and being an unregistered agent of a foreign government.
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  6. #3731

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    What were the words Trump used 'threatening' Ambassador Yovanovitch?
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50436521

  7. #3732

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    ^^^ABD, The only Trump quote I found in your link was,

    "Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad," Mr Trump wrote. "She started off in Somalia, how did that go?"

    That's an opinion and/or a performance report. It isn't a threat.

  8. #3733

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    The Blue Wave continues: Democrat John Bel Edwards defeats his Republican challenger Eddie Rispone in the Louisiana Governor's race.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ns-re-election

    This marks the second time in two weeks that the Democrats have won the Governors race in a DEEP red state against a Republican opponent heavily backed by Donald Trump.

    352 days until the 2020 election...

  9. #3734

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    The Donald made an unannounced, unexpected trip to Walter Reed yesterday. He's calling it "phase I" of his annual physical.


    https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...ysical-2019-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    The Blue Wave continues: Democrat John Bel Edwards defeats his Republican challenger Eddie Rispone in the Louisiana Governor's race.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ns-re-election

    This marks the second time in two weeks that the Democrats have won the Governors race in a DEEP red state against a Republican opponent heavily backed by Donald Trump.

    352 days until the 2020 election...
    Heeeeelp I am drowning in the blue wave,oops I just noticed if I stand up it is just getting my toes wet.

    Thats okay once they tax everybody to death while enriching themselves kick all the little people out in the street and force corporations flee the city then they will vote a Republican back in and expect them to fix it again.


    What ever happened to the kids in cages and drinking out of the toilets at the border?

    Typical,a fake impeachment charade takes precedence over little children in cages.What kind of person does that?

    Thanksgiving break is coming up,what wins do the democrats have to show for their last 3 years in office that they can bring back home to thier constituents outside of a stuffed turkey?

    Funny how the one they want to get rid of is the only one looking out for the country.

    But But But he is not my president and we are going to impeach him just like we got rid of the Russians in the bushes. Lol

    351 days until Trumps 2020 re-election inauguration and 2.6 million more Valium tablets manufactured in order to help his haters cope with the trauma of it all.
    Last edited by Richard; November-18-19 at 04:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncledave54 View Post
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    you guys realize how many are under investigation for campaign violations under both sides?

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    ^^^ Less than 7, but no more than 9? ----

    Shhhh, remember bad things, hypocracy and corruption are only found on de' right! Right?

  13. #3738

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    White House press secretary claims "nasty notes" and "every office filled with Obama books". Another load of B.S.


    A reporter for CNN tweeted out Grisham’s comments, in which she alleged “every office was filled with Obama books and we had notes left behind that said ‘You will fail,’” and “‘You aren’t going to make it.’” The tweet sparked blowback from prominent members of the Obama administration who quickly denied and contradicted her account."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...a-notes-071562

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Another load of B.S.

    A reporter for CNN tweeted out Grisham’s comments, in which she alleged “every office was filled with Obama books and we had notes left behind that said ‘You will fail,’” and “‘You aren’t going to make it.’” The tweet sparked blowback from prominent members of the Obama administration who quickly denied and contradicted her account."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...a-notes-071562
    I agree with you. No way could prominent Obama administration members have checked every book, page, file cabinet and drawer for notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Heeeeelp I am drowning in the blue wave,oops I just noticed if I stand up it is just getting my toes wet.

    Thats okay once they tax everybody to death while enriching themselves kick all the little people out in the street and force corporations flee the city then they will vote a Republican back in and expect them to fix it again.


    What ever happened to the kids in cages and drinking out of the toilets at the border?

    Typical,a fake impeachment charade takes precedence over little children in cages.What kind of person does that?

    Thanksgiving break is coming up,what wins do the democrats have to show for their last 3 years in office that they can bring back home to thier constituents outside of a stuffed turkey?

    Funny how the one they want to get rid of is the only one looking out for the country.

    But But But he is not my president and we are going to impeach him just like we got rid of the Russians in the bushes. Lol

    351 days until Trumps 2020 re-election inauguration and 2.6 million more Valium tablets manufactured in order to help his haters cope with the trauma of it all.

    Trump looking out for the country? He only looks out for himself, and you guys are still singing his praises. He's got you and countless of others, totally brainwashed. This hearing isn't doing him any favors either. All these witnesses, are saying he's guilty as charged, get his dishonest, lying _ss outta here.

  16. #3741

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid View Post
    Trump looking out for the country? He only looks out for himself, and you guys are still singing his praises. He's got you and countless of others, totally brainwashed. This hearing isn't doing him any favors either. All these witnesses, are saying he's guilty as charged, get his dishonest, lying _ss outta here.
    Well they are on a 30 minute lunch break now,I know this because I am watching the hearings.

    Which you clearly are not.

    Ukraine wants support and $450 million

    Trump says based on the corruption levels of the past and having private meetings and Ukraine officials not holding to thier words,Trump says until you publicly say you are going to address corruption,which holds them to the fire,we prefer not to get support.

    Trump needed proof that corruption would be investigated,Until the newly elected Ukraine president had the support of thier cabinet,he would have no power to address corruption.

    The Ukraine cabinet holds a 24 hour session in order to put corruption laws in place including holding cabinet members prosecutable if they committed crimes,which was not the case in the past.

    In the meentime and like every other country Trump is dealing with the funds were not released.

    The conditions were,addressing corruption and the other members in the EU helped in the whole Ukraine picture, so it would not be solely on the United States taxpayer.

    Also in the meantime no offensive weapons were denied,the money that was held up was the next round of funding,

    At no time was the Ukraine in danger like it is portrayed.

    After the phone call with the Ukraine president and after the Ukraine cabinet passed anti corruption laws with substance and Trump had the confidence that corruption would be seriously addressed,the funds were released BEFORE Congress even said to.

    Trump is well known to hate handing funds over to foreign governments just because.

    Thats our money,money that we could be used for our families,if we are going to hand over money to foreign governments it would be the presidents job to make damn sure it is productive.

    The problem with the democrats is with all of the testimonies they still have no smoking gun but they are caught in a trap.

    They would like all of this to go away but they cannot without serious damage.

    No matter who testified or is going to testify and even no matter if they find zero evidence they will still move forward with impeachment and it will be denied.

    That is thier only out.

    Keep in mind this is only the impeachment inquiry hearings and not a court of law,there is no way they can impeach him in the time frame before 2020.

    They are only pushing this in order to try and keep him from running in 2020 because they are scared.

  17. #3742

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    What is really interesting in all of this is United States ambassadors and NSC cleared the Ukraine to receive the funds and were pushing to and ready to release them while a corrupt president and prosecutor that was accused of excepting bribes to close the case against the company that Hunter Biden was a board member of.

    That staff had informed President Trump that corruption was being addressed and the funding should move forward.

    That involved the female ambassador that everybody was shocked because she was recalled,my guess is it was because she put the fear of the Russians in the Ukraine,that the Ukrainians already had in check,over the best interests of the United States and its taxpayers.

    All the other ambassadors to the Ukraine were already replaced by Trump in april or earlier of this year.

    So the United States state Department,NSC and the ambassadors to the Ukraine gave the okay to provide the funds based on the corruption was being addressed.

    Two days later an election was held in the Ukraine and the president and staff was replaced by a comedian that had zero political knowledge but won on a platform of fighting corruption and won 70% of the vote.

    So now you have an unknown in office for two days and is promising to root out corruption.

    Trump freezes the aid before the election.

    The President of the Ukraine convenes a cabinet and forms an anti corruption unit that has the power.

    55 days after the Ukraine proves that they are serious about fighting corruption,Trump releases the aid.

    Forget about Trump for a minute.

    It is you standing there.

    You have these state Department officials telling you to release $400 million
    to the Ukraine because the state department feels that corruption is being addressed.

    While the very people in the Ukraine in power are the ones neck deep in corruption and you know that in a couple of days a new president may take office and the whole situation may change.

    Are you going to listen to the state department and release the funds into the hands of somebody that you know full well is corrupt and may be on his way out in a few days?

    Or are you going to say,let’s put a pause on this until after the election and look at the commitment then.

    It was only a matter of days before the next election,Why was the ambassador and state department pushing to release the funds into the hands of somebody that they knew full well if he lost the election those funds would have been sitting in a secret bank account outside of the Ukraine.

    As it turns out he lost and the funds were released after President Trump was assured that the new president was indeed going to go after the corruption.

    The only time President Trump mentions Joe Biden is when he referred to how Joe Biden was bragging about stopping an investigation into corruption.

    That is public and there for all to see so Trump is not lying.

    Is anybody not wanting to know why would Joe Biden want to stop an internal investigation surrounding corruption in the Ukraine that involved United States citizens.

    That investigation involved millions of US taxpayers monies and also the UK taxpayers monies that were used to investigate the corruption and bring charges

    Why did Joe Biden shut it down while the Obama administration state department handed a do not prosecute list to the Ukraine government with hand picked people that they did not want to see prosecuted for corruption..

    Sense Russia tried invading the Ukraine The United States has granted $1.8 billion to the Ukraine for its defense while knowing full well that a corrupt Russian backed President was in place.

    All of that going on and Trump is an ass because he did not just hand over $400 million dollars,to a known at that time,corrupt administration and still did not just hand it over until he was comfortable that the new administration was dedicated to stopping the corruption?

    He is also currently holding aid to 7 other countries until they can also prove that it will be used as designed.

    Do you guys really think we should be handing over billions of dollars every year to all of these foreign countries and having zero accountability for it?

    All of that and the only thing the democrats can see is the name joe Biden who is a political opponent of the current president.

    The rest in context means nothing to them.

    Two of the promises that then candidate Trump made to the American citizens.

    Stop the practice of the United States handing over hundreds of billions to foreign countries with zero accountability.

    Stop the practice of the United States of being the police force to the world by getting our allies involved to share the load.

    He has done that in the Iran navel blockade by billing our allies for the cost of our navel ships to sit there.

    He has done that in the Ukraine by insuring that the funds delivered will be used as intended and has also involved the UK in a share the load basis.

    So the end result of him doing exactly what he said he was going to do,in the best interests of the American public,and they want to impeach him for it.
    Last edited by Richard; November-20-19 at 09:36 PM.

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    Lol, Trump's closest foreign ally, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, was formally indicted today on charges of Bribery, Corruption, and Fraud.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/21/w...-indicted.html

    And the hits just keep on coming! Birds of a feather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Lol, Trump's closest foreign ally, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, was formally indicted today on charges of Bribery, Corruption, and Fraud.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/21/w...-indicted.html

    And the hits just keep on coming! Birds of a feather.

    So neither Hillary or Obama were allies with Netanyahu, just Trump?

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    ^^^All these politicians take their turn at bat relative to who they cosy up too. And the reasons and relevance - yahdah!

    But now all of the sudden Trumpet is the grand poo-bah. LOL!

    He certainly is the super-soaker-sponge for all things evil, corrupt and malevolent.

    Ironically, in the effort to bring him down, we're brought back the absolutes of bad and good, right and wrong. Prior it was just one's opinion, 'subjective' to the post-modern world view!

    When he's gone we'll be perpetually free of the evils...... and/ or we can resume the subjectivity that served others.

    As for me life will go on: I'll continue to looking both ways when crossing the road of politics, to policy, to personal.
    Last edited by Zacha341; November-21-19 at 11:11 PM.

  21. #3746

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Lol, Trump's closest foreign ally, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, was formally indicted today on charges of Bribery, Corruption, and Fraud.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/21/w...-indicted.html

    And the hits just keep on coming! Birds of a feather.

    As as long as you are going down the path of fraud,corruption and bribery,do know who the other 3 top democrats that have children placed in High positions of foreign energy companies that do buisness with The United States to the tune of billions that are currently under investigation?

    Or that the presidents of all of the left leaning newspapers in the United States are either married to or directly related to the top Obama administration officials?

    I am not into the whole climate change charade but when the leading democrats children are banking millions off of fossil fuels it is doubtful that it will really go anywhere.


    Or how about United States ambassadors under the previous administration brokering billions in foreign aid that just seemed to disappear and then reappear in little political war chests?

    Birds of a feather flock together,you are right about that.

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    So with the completion of day 7 of the impeachment inquiry the charade comes to an end.

    I have to question why the democrats chose to call as witnesses ambassadors within the state department that all have been in the past ambassadors in every war torn country where the United States has given billions in aid.

    Watching thier testimonials it is clear why we are in endless wars.

    An ambassadors job is to brief the president on what is going on in the country that they are assigned to through the state department.

    My take in watching this all is the individual ambassadors are on a massive ego trip and apparently running thier own foreign policies as they see fit,because they are the experts and they know best and nobody better question thier expertise.

    They get really pissed.

    Two different types of ambassadors,political assigned by the president and in service assigned by the state department.

    Its Kinda like when you work somewhere and the company hires a temporary worker,most people will not view temps as credible because they have not been there.

    So there is a clear riff in the different ambassadors,even though they answer to the president and he can replace any one with no reason.

    They seem to forget that while they are playing sim city with American taxpayers dollars in foreign countries so is the NSA and the CIA.

    The last two testimonies from today was from a representative from the state department that handles the E.U. with heavy experience in Russia.

    The second one was or still is the assistant to the ambassador to the Ukraine.

    He is sitting in a busy Restruant across the table from a Trump appointment ambassador and he heard the phone call to Trump where Trump asked if the investigation was going to happen,the phone was not on speaker phone and he did not hear anymore of the conversation outside of that investigation question,which could mean any investigation in the world.

    That was thier star witness.


    Both came across as livid because how dare Trump place his own ambassadors as political appointees when they were already the experts.

    99% of all of the ones testifying in the last 7 days are no longer in public service and thier terms had ended 1 month before all of this supposedly broke.

    It really makes me wonder how many conflicts that we have been involved in the past that was started by an ambassador pushing personal foreign policies and not correctly informing the president who ever it may be.

    It also gives a little more in site to Hillary Clinton the state department and Benghazi.

    They were actually running thier own little war without providing the president in power at the time the facts,and it cost American lives.
    Last edited by Richard; November-22-19 at 01:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    ^^^All these politicians take their turn at bat relative to who they cosy up too. And the reasons and relevance - yahdah!

    But now all of the sudden Trumpet is the grand poo-bah. LOL!

    He certainly is the super-soaker-sponge for all things evil, corrupt and malevolent.

    Ironically, in the effort to bring him down, we're brought back the absolutes of bad and good, right and wrong. Prior it was just one's opinion, 'subjective' to the post-modern world view!

    When he's gone we'll be perpetually free of the evils...... and/ or we can resume the subjectivity that served others.

    As for me life will go on: I'll continue to looking both ways when crossing the road of politics, to policy, to personal.
    Zacha, Postmodern seems such an oxymoron, literally.

  24. #3749

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    It's coming, if nothing adversely affects Trumps life span, four more years.

  25. #3750

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    If that's all the the goods that the Shiff Show got and they ain't got an ace up their sleeve a vote to impeach is going to expose them all in the Senate.

    You've got to know when to hold 'em
    Know when to fold 'em
    Know when to walk away
    And know when to run

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