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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    "I have long believed that a President can fire an FBI director for any reason, or for no reason at all.”"I’m not going to spend time on the decision or the way it was executed." “I hope you won’t either. It is done, and I will be fine, although I will miss you and the mission deeply.”

    -Former FBI Director James Comey 5/10/17 as reported by CNN

    "I do not have confidence in [[Comey) any longer," -Sen. Chuck Schumer 11/2/16
    "Maybe [[Comey is) not in the right job," -Pelosi 11/2/16
    Asked if Comey should resign. "Of course, yes," -Harry Ried 12/10/16
    "The FBI director has no credibility," -Rep. Maxine Waters


    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.
    Trump would have been getting just as much flak from the Left [[Probably even more) if he had canned Comey the day after the inauguration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Trump would have been getting just as much flak from the Left [[Probably even more) if he had canned Comey the day after the inauguration.
    Likely. But we'll never know. The point is that the argument presented was basically garbage.

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    The democrats and media are so stupid and blindly consumed by hate that they don't see the irony of Trump firing Comey "because he's getting too close to finding [[the non existent) collusion with the Russians" on the very same day he was receiving the Russian Foreign Minister at the WH. I'm sure they were both laughing at the democrats from behind closed doors over a vodka.

    Trump is pulling their chain and reveling in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.
    Let's go to one of your leaders, Maxine Waters, for a dose of her most recent critical thinking. Rep. Waters wanted Comey fired until she didn't but now she has qualified that. "If [[Hillary) had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her, and what he tried to do, she should have fired him. Yes.) -5/10/17

    I don't know if it's 'the' issue, at least with you, but Democratic hypocricy is an issue. It was amazing to witness the turn around of Democratic pillars who days before were lamenting Hillary's loss as being due to Comey all shifting direction and narrative in unison. Now we are to pretend that if only Comey had stayed around a little longer, the failed Russian behind every tree narrative would be flushed out. Personally, I liked detente with Russia even before the Democratic Party became the new home of neocons under SOS Clinton and President Obama.

    While Democrats, save Tulsi Gabbard and maybe Bernie, have been making a mess of detente and are trying to grab hold of any passing barge promising to vilify Trump and Russia, Russia's foreign minister Lavrov reported that his meeting with Trump went well.

    "I would say that our dialogue as of now is free from ideology that was very typical for [Barack] Obama's administration. "Both Mr Trump and the secretary of state of his administration, as I realized today once again, are businesslike people and they want to reach agreements.""The goal of both President Trump and [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin is to have concrete results which will be tangible and which will allow us to alleviate problems, including on the international agenda."


    The US press was so busy trying to make an issue of the legal firing of Comey that it must not have had time to cover the good news that Trump and Lavrov stepped back and away from a nuclear Armageddon. A Trump-Puting meeting is now scheduled for July. The Wash. Post, owned by the world's richest man, described the Lavrov meeting as 'strange'. The NY Times used the word 'awkward'. If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.

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    If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.
    And what world are you from?

    We come in peace, until 10-6- 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigb23 View Post
    And what world are you from?

    We come in peace, until 10-6- 16.
    I'm thinking you mean election day in November 2018 but if you have a time machine to repair the last election or whatever happened in October of 2016, I would be more interested in hearing about that.

    If you did mean the election of 11/18, I would argue that Democrats have long ago discarded any fig leaf of peace. I'm thinking about Antifa brown shirt violence, black lives matter riots, people prevented from picking up their youngsters, going home from work, and old people who need to get to a bathroom because of leftist roadblocks, Democrats' newfound reverence for Senator McCain, all the neocons who globbed onto Hillary, and hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugee mid-easterners as the result of SOS Clinton/Pres. Obama policies. Consequently, portraying Democrats as coming in peace is a hard sell. Sorry, Bernie, Gabbard, and Kucinich supporters but you are outnumbered.

    I did see this article suggesting that Democrats switch their narrative from the failed anti-Russian diatribe to a Trump is crazy rant because the latter would be easier to set up. "The Resistance changes its attack from "Russian puppet" to "Trump is crazy" - which works best?" Maybe that would work better for you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    I would argue that Democrats have long ago discarded any fig leaf of peace. I'm thinking about Antifa brown shirt violence, black lives matter riots, people prevented from picking up their youngsters, going home from work, and old people who need to get to a bathroom because of leftist roadblocks, Democrats' newfound reverence for Senator McCain, all the neocons who globbed onto Hillary, and hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugee mid-easterners as the result of SOS Clinton/Pres. Obama policies.
    I agree with your premise, but a number of those things have nothing to do with Democrats, unfortunately. They should, because they're righteous, but the Democrats aren't interested in being righteous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Let's go to one of your leaders, Maxine Waters, for a dose of her most recent critical thinking. Rep. Waters wanted Comey fired until she didn't but now she has qualified that. "If [[Hillary) had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her, and what he tried to do, she should have fired him. Yes.) -5/10/17

    I don't know if it's 'the' issue, at least with you, but Democratic hypocricy is an issue. It was amazing to witness the turn around of Democratic pillars who days before were lamenting Hillary's loss as being due to Comey all shifting direction and narrative in unison. Now we are to pretend that if only Comey had stayed around a little longer, the failed Russian behind every tree narrative would be flushed out. Personally, I liked detente with Russia even before the Democratic Party became the new home of neocons under SOS Clinton and President Obama.

    While Democrats, save Tulsi Gabbard and maybe Bernie, have been making a mess of detente and are trying to grab hold of any passing barge promising to vilify Trump and Russia, Russia's foreign minister Lavrov reported that his meeting with Trump went well.

    "I would say that our dialogue as of now is free from ideology that was very typical for [Barack] Obama's administration. "Both Mr Trump and the secretary of state of his administration, as I realized today once again, are businesslike people and they want to reach agreements.""The goal of both President Trump and [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin is to have concrete results which will be tangible and which will allow us to alleviate problems, including on the international agenda."


    The US press was so busy trying to make an issue of the legal firing of Comey that it must not have had time to cover the good news that Trump and Lavrov stepped back and away from a nuclear Armageddon. A Trump-Puting meeting is now scheduled for July. The Wash. Post, owned by the world's richest man, described the Lavrov meeting as 'strange'. The NY Times used the word 'awkward'. If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.
    I quit reading after you claimed Maxine Waters was one of my leaders.

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