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    Quote Originally Posted by Satiricalivory View Post
    Why link this here? It has nothing specifically to do with Monroe Block. That freep article is just the usual work from home discourse we've been hearing since March. Holds no more weight than a usual opinion posted here.
    I think the opinions of commercial real estate professionals and U of M Business profs are worth reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I think the opinions of commercial real estate professionals and U of M Business profs are worth reading.
    Absolutely. It's very relevant.

    It also does note that the Freep reached out to Bedrock regarding the status of the Monroe Block and Bedrock did not respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkytofu View Post
    Absolutely. It's very relevant.

    It also does note that the Freep reached out to Bedrock regarding the status of the Monroe Block and Bedrock did not respond.
    Bedrock already responded to this work from home stuff a month ago. They said there were no changes to their plans and that basically it was nonsense "speculation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    I think the opinions of commercial real estate professionals and U of M Business profs are worth reading.
    lol a random real estate agent from Farmington Hills and a UofM college professor. Both have absolutely nothing to do with downtown commercial development.

    Wow such heavy hitters weighing in.

    Like I said, all the same armchair theories we've been hearing since for like 6 months. Freep clearly fished for whatever joe schmo who had an opinion to throw into this pointless piece.
    Last edited by Satiricalivory; August-22-20 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satiricalivory View Post
    lol a random real estate agent from Farmington Hills and a UofM college professor. Both have absolutely nothing to do with downtown commercial development.

    Wow such heavy hitters weighing in.

    Like I said, all the same armchair theories we've been hearing since for like 6 months. Freep clearly fished for whatever joe schmo who had an opinion to throw into this pointless piece.
    Farbman Group has done projects all over downtown for decades.

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    The project hasn't been abandoned... they just got variances for the height and loading docks. WTF

    The architect has had renders up since the very beginning, these aren't new. Yall are crazy, jesus.
    Last edited by Satiricalivory; August-22-20 at 08:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satiricalivory View Post
    The project hasn't been abandoned... they just got variances for the height and loading docks. WTF

    The architect has had renders up since the very beginning, these aren't new. Yall are crazy, jesus.
    Um.... no.... no one here is crazy... I've been posting here for almost longer than anyone. People just find articles, and repost them here on DYES, often without prejudice. And then we discuss them with a wide range of opinions as to what the articles actually mean. That's the way it's always been done here. You, in your 4 months here, need to not shoot the messenger.
    Last edited by Gistok; August-23-20 at 01:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Um.... no.... no one here is crazy... I've been posting here for almost longer than anyone. People just find articles, and repost them here on DYES, often without prejudice. And then we discuss them with a wide range of opinions as to what the articles actually mean. That's the way it's always been done here. You, in your 4 months here, need to not shoot the messenger.
    Oh Lord. I didn't shoot the messenger. I was referring to the person who claimed the project was "abandoned" which is very much a crazy thing to say. I think you're confused?

    And honestly I'm also sick of the Freep's bullshit. Even before the pandemic their whole narrative was that the economy was collapsing and development was imploding, look at their articles in 2019. It's as if they could have been written recently and you wouldn't be able to tell they weren't if you didn't know.

    Oh, we'll see high profile projects go on hold you say? Except every big project they checked in with was under construction just as planned. Monroe Block has been on hold, it is on hold, that was already confirmed and we've known that for awhile. But it seems Freep just caught on to this? Also how does the one campus martius addition create a possible excess of office space when Quicken is occupying it and already committed to doing so? Little lies like that litter their work.
    Last edited by Satiricalivory; August-23-20 at 09:10 AM.

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    When I see the cranes there and ground being dig, I will believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Um.... no.... no one here is crazy... I've been posting here for almost longer than anyone. People just find articles, and repost them here on DYES, often without prejudice. And then we discuss them with a wide range of opinions as to what the articles actually mean. That's the way it's always been done here. You, in your 4 months here, need to not shoot the messenger.
    This user is World’s Greatest, just with a different handle [[username), judging by how they talk and the constant anger and aggression

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmberko11 View Post
    This user is World’s Greatest, just with a different handle [[username), judging by how they talk and the constant anger and aggression
    What in gods name are you talking about?

    I don't have aggression. If this site is going to be pointlessly rude to me I'll just log off. Wont take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satiricalivory View Post
    What in gods name are you talking about?

    I don't have aggression. If this site is going to be pointlessly rude to me I'll just log off. Wont take it.
    Check yourself. Extremely edgy to people on here and like to argue. Just calm down. When you're coming at long-time forumers with an attitude that they have reading comprehension issues you'll get "cancelled." That's why Gistok replied like he did. I've been a lurker on here for years but only in the last two have I started posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Um.... no.... no one here is crazy... I've been posting here for almost longer than anyone. People just find articles, and repost them here on DYES, often without prejudice. And then we discuss them with a wide range of opinions as to what the articles actually mean. That's the way it's always been done here. You, in your 4 months here, need to not shoot the messenger.
    Thank you, Gistok! As someone who has also been here a long time [[since 2003), it is nice to have the backing in order to simply file an opinion [[and actually in this case a questioning of a possible theory). We are all a bit heated these days I suppose.

    As always though, Skipper's Rule. On this, and every project.

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    Bedrock stated their reason for getting the variances approved now was so they can be ready to break ground as soon as they have a tenant signed. This project definitely isn’t canceled/dead, but it also isn’t breaking ground anytime soon. Especially with covid

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    Yes, but also it's pretty sure Quicken plans to occupy much of the space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satiricalivory View Post
    The project hasn't been abandoned... they just got variances for the height and loading docks. WTF

    The architect has had renders up since the very beginning, these aren't new. Yall are crazy, jesus.
    You gotta chill. People are just stating opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkytofu View Post
    People are just stating opinions.
    Some opinions definitely carry less weight then others.

    Example: Olympia Entertainment and the Illitch family have had a greater positive effect on Detroit then Dan Gilbert.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg19 View Post
    Some opinions definitely carry less weight then others.

    Example: Olympia Entertainment and the Illitch family have had a greater positive effect on Detroit then Dan Gilbert.

    EMU_Steve is no longer with us...

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    It's 2020 And I do see any construction going on.

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    Today they repaved part of Farmer street inside of the project area. Probably not a good sign for this one starting soon.

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    Phase one of this project [[the office tower and apartments) doesn't really require anything being done with Farmer street so I doubt it's much of an indication. And I assume they need that street operational for construction.

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    I see 4 red semi trucks with what looks like red crane parts, I assume that from another project, but gives some excitement

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    Cool! Thanks for the update 🙂

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawring View Post
    I see 4 red semi trucks with what looks like red crane parts, I assume that from another project, but gives some excitement
    Let's hope they finally gonna start on it soon. Still hype that the cranes are up at TCF and Hudson sites!!

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    I wonder if the foundations of the previous buildings on the Monroe block still exist?

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