Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
We don't either. We are constantly deporting undocumented workers. Always have. The trouble is that VAST swaths of our agricultural industry rely on those undocumented workers. Ditto for the hospitality industry.

Want to cut undocumented workers?
1) Create a set of standards for those industries that rely on migrant labor
- including wage requirements and housing requirements that don't follow the "company store" model
2) Create a system to allow those migrant workers to come in legally
3) HEAVILY fine those companies and individuals who hire migrant workers from outside the new system or who do not provide the appropriate wages and required quality of housing.



[/COLOR]The positioning of this statement is a bit of a non-sequitur. Requiring a PAID ID to vote is a violation of anti poll tax laws. If a state requires an official ID, they should provide one - gratis.
On the surface I agree with you 100% but what most do not realize is the United States provides immigration opportunities like no other country in the world.

We have a well used guest worker program specifically for the agriculture and hospitality industries.

People utilizing that have excess to free healthcare,permission to work and pay taxes,they follow the crops and can stay in the country year round.

Even Walt Disney world has an international guest worker program in peak seasons.

We regulate immigration of non skilled workers from Latin America and other countries if you are non skilled based on a quota system allowing x amount of thousands per year for each country.

Like many other countries we have no limits on high skilled workers.

In countries such as India and the Middle East,we have not only the allotted quotas but we also allow a visa lottery system that allows thousands more over and above the set quotas.

If as an American,I wanted to immigrate to another country,even Mexico,unless I am a English teacher or make a minimum investment of $500,000 there is no way I can legally immigrate.

Every country in the world has immigration laws,they are of smaller land mass then the United States and a lot harder to hide,if you get caught being there illegally you will serve jail time before being deported.

The United States has one of the most liberal immigration policies in the world.

The federal government does have in place a employment eligibility check program,it is not required,it is there for states or individual corporations to utilize if so desired.

Some states require employers to utilize the system some do not.

The federal government does enforce large workforce illegal employment crackdowns,but it is very costly in funds and manpower.

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The previous administration did little towards this style of crackdown,in order to stay out of the lime light and not to draw attention he went after individuals,green cards or not,anybody that had a felony,even if it was from 20 years ago he still rounded them up and deported them.

Nobody said anything and his numbers of deported are still higher then the current administration.

In Florida from what I have seen,migrant workers are treated as well as non migrant workers,for the most part they are all driving new trucks.

The immigrants that are abused or servitude are immigrants and illegal immigrants that are employed by thier own countryman employers.

There have been some horrible cases but they are dealt with harshly.

Florida has a high level of immigrants,both illegal and non illegal,they command the same pay,an unskilled laborer will cost you $100 per day,skilled $150 per day.

A Mexican owned or Cuban owned or Columbian owned business will employ illegals at 50% of the going rate.

That is where you get the whole competitive aspect.

As a contractor I had to pay,workmanÂ’s comp,insurance,taxes etc as a buisness,these guys fold in 60% of thier workforce with illegals,they get seriously hurt on a job and they are immediately sent back to thier country of origin,done game over.

We have more ways to enter this country legally,with 1000s of loopholes,then any other country in the world.

It is a long drawn out system that can take up to 5 years,people do not want to wait that long so they circumvent the system and that is why we are where we are at today.

It consumes billions of dollars in the process that could be used to lift the lives of Americans,as much money this country has there is no reason in the world to have the inner cities that we have,the public transportation shortfalls,the hundreds of thousands homeless sleeping in the streets,itÂ’s insane.

People for the most part do not hate immigrants,illegal or not,they understand that they are looking for a better life and that IS who we are as a country.

The hatred comes from the double standards when it comes to illegals verses immigrants that utilize the right path and American citizens.

There are groups that are apparently incapable of understanding that concept and use that to actually spread hate and cry racist.

It is entirely possible to hate the way the system works when it comes to illegals without hating the people involved,outside of the political aspect of useing people as pawns in thier little games of politics.