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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Would you feel the same way if pro-life or pro 2nd Amendment protestors continuously interrupted Clinton's speeches?
    Clinton didn't propose blocking pro-life or "pro-2nd amendment" people [[whatever that means) from coming into the United States.

    Rashida Tlaib, IMO, has been a great voice for her community from what I've seen. Good on her!

    But yes I would feel the same way. Taking protesters out of a rally is nothing new. It only changed with Trump when he nearly wanted violence against them.

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    The point isn't whether one agrees with Trump or not - I voted for Kerry and I voted for Obama. My point is you have to respect the office of the presidency, even if you don't respect the person who holds that office.

    Her actions were a clear indication she lacks the maturity needed to effectively represent me. And as a DEC member that's the issue.

    How would she feel if a bunch of protesters went inside a mosque and started screaming when the imam was leading service? That's effectively what she did to DEC members.

    I would propose both campaigns should institute policies where you register that they place a $1,000 hold on your credit card - and if you're escorted out - that money goes to charity or the candidates campaign. That way the offensive people actually contribute to the campaign if they act poorly as she.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belleislerunner View Post
    My point is you have to respect the office of the presidency, even if you don't respect the person who holds that office.

    How would she feel if a bunch of protesters went inside a mosque and started screaming when the imam was leading service? That's effectively what she did to DEC members.
    You might want to talk to Trump about respect for the office...

    As for harassment do you really want to compare what Trump deals with at a rally to what Muslims in this country have to deal with on a daily basis? That isn't a good way to bolster your argument, especially when the guy you are defending is one of the loudest voices painting the entire muslim community with the terrorist brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    You might want to talk to Trump about respect for the office...

    As for harassment do you really want to compare what Trump deals with at a rally to what Muslims in this country have to deal with on a daily basis? That isn't a good way to bolster your argument, especially when the guy you are defending is one of the loudest voices painting the entire muslim community with the terrorist brush.
    Are you referring to this incessant celebrating of Christmas @ office parties, Gays having local bars where they can gather and enjoy themselves, or these heathen families getting together for an evening of fireworks on Bastille Day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Sorry, but it's only different because you disagree with Trump politically. If former Republican reps were doing the same at a Hillary Clinton rally this thread would be 10 straight pages of condemnation.
    False-equivalence.

    If Clinton were campaigning on mandatory abortions or repealing the second amendment, then you'd have a case. Neither of those are true.

    Quote Originally Posted by belleislerunner View Post
    My point is you have to respect the office of the presidency, even if you don't respect the person who holds that office.
    Surely you made that argument when Trump was making dick jokes on the trail and calling for violence against protesters? When he was demanding Obama's birth certificate?

    Quote Originally Posted by belleislerunner View Post
    How would she feel if a bunch of protesters went inside a mosque and started screaming when the imam was leading service? That's effectively what she did to DEC members.
    False-equivalence.

    If said Imam were on record calling for banning Christians from the country that would be comparable. If that were the case, said protesters would be perfectly justified in doing so.

    No one is under any obligation to apply rules of decency to hate speech from Trump. The decent thing to do is denounce it in any, and every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belleislerunner View Post
    My point is you have to respect the office of the presidency, even if you don't respect the person who holds that office.
    I'm sorry, I slept late today. Did I miss the part where Donald Trump was elected president of the United States? Also, did I dream that Trump called the sitting president the "founder" of ISIS? Or that Trump says "lots of people" are saying that he wasn't born in the United States? Or when Trump said Obama has failed the country?

    So much respect. The best respect. One of the all time great respecters, that Trump. I wonder why he choose to unveil his national economic policy in a private club. They had the right to kick them out but they had a right to make a scene. Cry me a bleepin' river.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro View Post
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    So much respect. The best respect. One of the all time great respecters, that Trump. I wonder why he choose to unveil his national economic policy in a private club. They had the right to kick them out but they had a right to make a scene. Cry me a bleepin' river.
    So we have bad manner being used against someone with bad manners. There is some justice in that.

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