BREXIT | UK Votes To Leave European Union | Break It Down For Me - What Does It Mean?

[Crumbled_pavement]

UK votes to leave EU. David Cameron resigns. Crumbled_pavement creates Are You Prepared Pt. XI. What does it all mean? For our economy? Our elections? For the UK? And for the future of the EU. Bring me up to speed.

Thanks!

[Zacha341]

Buy gold?? What a divorce. This is big!

Let's see what the BBC and Dailymail.co.uk say about all of this... of course the 'comment' section being most revealing [[where the real news is found)!
bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028

One stop news-shopping below re. the details and impact [[fiscal and otherwise)!
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3657605/UK-pound-takes-wild-ride-EU-referendum-results-come-in.html

Russia being a bit mum on the subject...?
bbc.com/news/world-europe-36523251

[coracle]

The root of BREXIT is UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION and forced unwanted DIVERSITY. The people it's being forced on built their ideal places to live in, and don't want them turned into crap places by ceding them to invaders that are incapable of doing it for themselves.

[Zacha341]

Is it? Then are they xenophobes to want to maintain their culture and core infrastructure in addition to extending a hand? I don't reflexively say yes.

Actually, England by being so open to immigration [[the good and not so good factors therein), yet at a point acknowledging a pending full-point as a country is to be watched as that canary in the coal mine.

Particularly and practically other countries will respond to their own full-points respective not only to culture, but also in response to and respective of existing populations. Will this response always be captured in the rubric of xenophobia?

After, all If we want to reference a more 'xenophobic' nation [[as the term is usually applied), Japan fits the bill more appropriately [[both Japan and the UK are islands interestingly). Japans immigration remains un-apologetically low -- seemingly seeking little approval for their position. Pesky that they are so politically incorrect!

I'm certain [[and would be naive to think otherwise) that there's a perspective that the Brits are simply getting what they deserve from having had their day of power, empiricism and influence across the globe.

Easy-peasy narrative in a way as it skips detail and galvanizes to some extent the current citizenry aside from the ruling politic blah de blah. But is that it? And if so, what comeuppance are they getting? That alone begs several questions [[umm, the 'comeuppance' that is).

Anyway, what country does not want to survive it can be argued?

Immigrants, in their variance, [[unless we believe they all have the same motives and needs -- I don't), seeking relocation of the UK etc. come for the benefits of the existing 'culture'. Do they not?

Setting aside the British power elite, etc, what do the rank and file citizens say? I'm simply asking some questions that are the elephant in the room re. this.

Some say frig 'em all and their 'tea time'!? The existential and practical summation of England for some is that the white supremacy scene needed to end. Considering England's global contributions [[many of which we derive our own culture from) I am wondering if that should be the sole consideration?

The root of BREXIT is UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION and forced unwanted DIVERSITY. The people it's being forced on built their ideal places to live in, and don't want them turned into crap places by ceding them to invaders that are incapable of doing it for themselves.

[Lowell]

England and its racist xenophobes behind this are going to wake up with a splitting hangover and find that the hooker has run off with their wallet and shoes. Boris Johnson, their ringleader, thinks will negotiate a free trade agreement with US. Clearly he has no idea of current American temperaments toward free trades, let alone that of even Trump's.

[Johnnny5]

England and its racist xenophobes behind this are going to wake up with a splitting hangover and find that the hooker has run off with their wallet and shoes. Boris Johnson, their ringleader, thinks will negotiate a free trade agreement with US. Clearly he has no idea of current American temperaments toward free trades, let alone that of even Trump's.

A free trade agreement with a newly independent U.K is a no brainer. The warnings by the Obama Administration were nothing more than political posturing in hopes of swaying the election. The only thing likely to hold it up would be all the pork and other political garbage that some in Washington would try to add to it.

[jackie5275]

Boris Johnson, their ringleader.....

Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.

[lpg]

Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.

Brothers from different mothers ???

[Danny]

The "BREXIT" leave means the any foreigners who invest in any capital property and put their retirement savings any British banks "offshore accounts" will lose a lot of money. Some foreign folks who their hard earned money in Britain as their only hope will see their money and their investment ventures long gone. Folks will lose their jobs. The American dollar will be 2 times more than the British Pound but the prices their will be cheaper than the any foreign currency. Our global economy may slow down a bit but will recover in about a few months unless more European Nations will break away from the EU.

I'm glad the British create their own "4th of July" or so I say 24th of June is their Independence Day. The European Union is a total economic disaster from the start. I knew its not going to work. And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to be blamed for BREXIT leave. It's European nations still stuck in their flag waving cultural dogmas. They are not modern Romans anymore.

[Zacha341]

These side-by-side countries sharing this island are not going to stop all their trading 100%. But it will have an impact. Aside from the DOW roller coaster gold went up to over $1300 yesterday. Good day to sell! But yeah, check you investments accordingly. And is England alone in waving flags of dogma? No.

The "BREXIT" leave means the any foreigners who invest in any capital property and put their retirement savings any British banks "offshore accounts" will lose a lot of money. Some foreign folks who their hard earned money in Britain as their only hope will see their money and their investment ventures long gone. Folks will lose their jobs. The American dollar will be 2 times more than the British Pound but the prices their will be cheaper than the any foreign currency. Our global economy may slow down a bit but will recover in about a few months unless more European Nations will break away from the EU.

I'm glad the British create their own "4th of July" or so I say 24th of June is their Independence Day. The European Union is a total economic disaster from the start. I knew its not going to work. And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave. It's European nations still stuck in their flag waving cultural dogmas. They are not modern Romans anymore.

[Lowell]

Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.

i'd tend to agree...

[Ruth Abou Rached]

As a Brit living in a very deprived area of England, I don't think so far Brexit is good news at all - at least not socially and community-wise. There have been racist comments and incident not heard about for decades in the UK. It's like going back in time to the 1980s when the BNP and other racist parties felt they could flex their muscles and think no one would dare challenge them. The difference is that more people will dare to challenge them - not sure that makes targeted people feel any safer though.
I'm sure there are economic arguments for and against Bremain and Brexit. At the moment, it's like day to day, nothing has changed. But in the background, someone has pressed the button for freefall, not sure what or where the brake button is.

For Brits who have a European sense of identity, the decision was like a kick in the stomach and teeth. Many of us feel that way because we have all too painful memories of the 1980s Little England rhetoric - at best inward-looking and stultifying, at worst leading to groups feeling stigmatised.

I would be very happy if I am proved wrong - it's like watch this space :-)

[G-DDT]

As a Brit living in a very deprived area of England, I don't think so far Brexit is good news at all - at least not socially and community-wise. There have been racist comments and incident not heard about for decades in the UK. It's like going back in time to the 1980s when the BNP and other racist parties felt they could flex their muscles and think no one would dare challenge them. The difference is that more people will dare to challenge them - not sure that makes targeted people feel any safer though.
I'm sure there are economic arguments for and against Bremain and Brexit. At the moment, it's like day to day, nothing has changed. But in the background, someone has pressed the button for freefall, not sure what or where the brake button is.

For Brits who have a European sense of identity, the decision was like a kick in the stomach and teeth. Many of us feel that way because we have all too painful memories of the 1980s Little England rhetoric - at best inward-looking and stultifying, at worst leading to groups feeling stigmatised.

I would be very happy if I am proved wrong - it's like watch this space :-)

Thank you for the much needed news and perspective from across the pond. It only confirms my fears of what I've been gathering about racial tensions bubbling up with unprecedented synchronicity all throughout the Western Hemisphere. The world is taking a rather ugly isolationist tone as of late.

I think some of us over here share some of the similar looming fears.

[Richard]

As a Brit living in a very deprived area of England, I don't think so far Brexit is good news at all - at least not socially and community-wise. There have been racist comments and incident not heard about for decades in the UK. It's like going back in time to the 1980s when the BNP and other racist parties felt they could flex their muscles and think no one would dare challenge them. The difference is that more people will dare to challenge them - not sure that makes targeted people feel any safer though.
I'm sure there are economic arguments for and against Bremain and Brexit. At the moment, it's like day to day, nothing has changed. But in the background, someone has pressed the button for freefall, not sure what or where the brake button is.

For Brits who have a European sense of identity, the decision was like a kick in the stomach and teeth. Many of us feel that way because we have all too painful memories of the 1980s Little England rhetoric - at best inward-looking and stultifying, at worst leading to groups feeling stigmatised.

I would be very happy if I am proved wrong - it's like watch this space :-)

With the Brits being like the US and providing a safety net of services when in need what would your feelings be when it becomes a target of immigration for that reason only.

With open borders what is more appealing,cross over three countries to get to the one that provides those benefits or stay in one that offers nothing.

Who pays for that and does the racist aspect appear out of anger for having to cover those costs?

Could not the 150 billion deposit as a requirement to be in the union have been put to better use within your own country to raise your standard of living instead of the guise of everybody in the world should divide up income equally ?

[oladub]

Omama representing Goldman-Sachs, George Soros, and the gang before Brexit with regard to trade [[thug talk): “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”

Obama after the Brexit victory:
"The people of the United Kingdom have spoken, and we respect their decision,""The special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is enduring, and the United Kingdom’s membership in NATO remains a vital cornerstone of U.S. foreign, security, and economic policy."

Trump on the Brexit victory:
"I think it's a great thing that's happened. It's an amazing vote, very historic.
"People are angry all over the world. They're angry over borders, they're angry over people coming into the country and taking over and nobody even knows who they are.
"They're angry about many, many things in the UK, the US and many other places. This will not be the last."

"I said this was going to happen and I think it is a great thing.
"Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing.
I think we're doing very well in the United States also, and it is essentially the same thing that is happening in the United States."

[jcole]

Yeah, Trump is brilliant:

[coracle]

"And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. All the cultures have piled in because of their own complete failure at building their own desirable places to live. They want somebody else's

My wife's family in the north and middle of England have been ousted from their homes by invaders from N. Africa, and they're having to pay taxes to support them, while the unelected assholes in Brussels hold meetings, on unlimited expense accounts, also paid for by the people they're screwing, planning how they can send more to meet the EU quotas.

BREXIT is the result of the abject failure of diversity and multiculturalism. IT DON'T WORK. The people that want it should get together and do it in their own countries in Africa, S. America, Central America et al. where it won't destroy established societies except their own.

[jcole]

"And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. ...

Turkey is partially in Europe; Istanbul, the largest Turkish city is European

[Danny]

Turkey is partially in Europe; Istanbul, the largest Turkish city is European

Ninety percent of the arable land in Turkey is on Asia. The other 5% is in Europe. Therefore Turkey can not be a EU nation because their rest of the land is in Asia.

[Danny]

"And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. All the cultures have piled in because of their own complete failure at building their own desirable places to live. They want somebody else's

My wife's family in the north and middle of England have been ousted from their homes by invaders from N. Africa, and they're having to pay taxes to support them, while the unelected assholes in Brussels hold meetings, on unlimited expense accounts, also paid for by the people they're screwing, planning how they can send more to meet the EU quotas.

BREXIT is the result of the abject failure of diversity and multiculturalism. IT DON'T WORK. The people that want it should get together and do it in their own countries in Africa, S. America, Central America et al. where it won't destroy established societies except their own.

I put the world " to be" in my comment I made a typo!

[noise]

"And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. All the cultures have piled in because of their own complete failure at building their own desirable places to live. They want somebody else's

My wife's family in the north and middle of England have been ousted from their homes by invaders from N. Africa, and they're having to pay taxes to support them, while the unelected assholes in Brussels hold meetings, on unlimited expense accounts, also paid for by the people they're screwing, planning how they can send more to meet the EU quotas.

BREXIT is the result of the abject failure of diversity and multiculturalism. IT DON'T WORK. The people that want it should get together and do it in their own countries in Africa, S. America, Central America et al. where it won't destroy established societies except their own.

What exactly have you built?

All things being equal, what if you were born elsewhere?

[coracle]

Probably a next logical step for "UK" to consider would be to let Scotland "free" as they want to be, so they can join EU. Then England would not only get from under the "welfare" it paid to EU but also the "welfare" it will still pay to Scotland. The 28 EU members could pick up the tab [[sorry 27). Scotland would benefit from getting a greater share of immigrants from EU [[and from England if they want them).
Scotland could also take back its countrymen from UK; heighten Hadrian's Wall, and get England to pay for it. [[bit of reverse Trump there)

[Zacha341]

Well the US narrative often cited is that except for native American's we're all descendants of immigrants [[well not exactly for most of my family - African Americans, eh-hmm), so what is the problem!?

[Zacha341]

Britain must trigger exit talks in just TWO DAYS, says top EU official as he calls for negotiations to start at summit on Tuesday

A French minister called on PM David Cameron to be replaced within days

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-official.html

[Zacha341]

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