Can you name something that makes you feel Detroit is on a comeback

[Bham1982]

There will be a comeback when Detroit is growing again. Show me a population increase in the 2020 Census. Until then, it's hype.

[Zacha341]

And when we really get a hold on the violence and high crime in the neighborhoods, which have increasingly involved children!

There will be a comeback when Detroit is growing again. Show me a population increase in the 2020 Census. Until then, it's hype.

[RickBeall]

Good schools, good police, safe neighborhoods. That's the main thing needed for more than pioneers to move in.

[MotorCityPaintCo.]

What impresses me most are the communities that are organizing, purchasing properties, and restoring them. Grandmont Rosedale Development is doing great things. Organizations such as Motor City Blight Busters, Brick and Beam and Preservation Detroit [[just to name a few) are people in the city working to make the city better... The "come back" is much further along than you may realize.

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

What impresses me most are the communities that are organizing, purchasing properties, and restoring them. Grandmont Rosedale Development is doing great things. Organizations such as Motor City Blight Busters, Brick and Beam and Preservation Detroit [[just to name a few) are people in the city working to make the city better... The "come back" is much further along than you may realize.

I had never heard of "Brick and Beam" but found their website quite interesting.

http://www.brickandbeamdetroit.com/

[Hypestyles]

When my neighborhood actually looks like a neighborhood again.

[gnome]

When it doesnt cost $4000 a year to insure a $1000 hooptie

[erikd]

When it doesnt cost $4000 a year to insure a $1000 hooptie

My auto insurance dropped 55% two years ago. I'm now paying $1600 a year for full coverage, with $500 deductibles, on a new car in the 48207.

[Zacha341]

Nice to hear from you G. Good point. There was deadly crash on the Lodge recently were the drivers and occupants fled the scene fearing possibly the citations for no insurance, license etc. There are many people driving dirty [[no insurance) in the D.

When it doesnt cost $4000 a year to insure a $1000 hooptie

[Mackinaw]

Foot traffic downtown, consistently expanding block by block everytime you see that.

Density-- the new construction alongside Lafayette Plaiscance [[even if poorly executed) is a big sign; the conversion of the Hammer-Nail building to residential is also a high-water mark for preservation of density and height.

Woodward from Grand to Jefferson is going to be a legitimate urban corridor that we can legitimiately hang our hat on. While that materializes, though, we need to actively turn to neighborhood restoration, an assault on the gangs that are imperiling regular hard working people in far NE and far W neighborhoods, and making out other corridors as booming as Woodward.

[belleislerunner]

The plummeting cost of car insurance in Detroit over the past 2 years was what signaled progress in my mind. Maybe it's just the tenants moving downtown/midtown/burbs have better credit scores and everyone wins. Three years ago I was paying $1,200 for six months for full coverage on an SUV in the 48226. Now it's down to $560 for six months coverage on the same SUV. Comparable rates with the burbs. With Progressive.

[Jimaz]

"Can you name something that makes you feel Detroit is on a comeback?"

Construction cranes.

[emu steve]

Sorry I don't have an answer to the question.

That's not meant to be snarky or anything, but rather a realization that the answer has 'to knock your sock off' in magnitude.

Couple of things I think can rise to [[near) the bar I set:

1). Pistons move back to Detroit. As Bernie would say, "That would be [[h)uuuuuuuuuge". The Pistons would not move back unless Detroit is really 'back.'

2). Detroit and S.E. Michigan gets 1st class BRT which would, by transportation, would seamlessly integrate major parts of Detroit [[e.g., Michigan Ave., Gratiot, Woodward, etc.) with the suburbs. Think of the barriers [[think of Michigan Ave/Wyoming) built during the time of [[late) Mayor Orville Hubbard [[Dearborn) which would fall.

[Bham1982]

LOL. Detroit is "coming back" if a basketball team moves a few miles, and if a bus system is improved.

Yeah, that would do it. It wouldn't be actual data indicating the city has a growing population and economy.

Maybe if a Cheesecake Factory opens; that will seal the deal. Much more important then whether or not hundreds of thousands of people decide to make Detroit their home in the coming years.

[emu steve]

LOL. Detroit is "coming back" if a basketball team moves a few miles, and if a bus system is improved. Yeah, that would do it. It wouldn't be actual data indicating the city is growing.

Okay, the Second Coming occurs at the new arena.

He descends through the roof, extends his arms, etc.

[EastsideAl]

People who can no longer afford to buy IN Indian Village, buying and rehabbing houses in nearby neighborhoods. New owners and significant renovations for riverfront apartment buildings on the east side. New stores and restaurants going in in the West Village, on Jefferson, and near the Riverwalk.

[emu steve]

Getting back to the discussion.

I'm not sure it is something that changes slowly over time, e.g., increased number of building permits issued in Detroit, or crime rate declining or high school graduation rates increasing.

It seems, to me, something that would make national TV news, e.g., a joint announcement that 1,000 multi-family housing units will break ground in a few months in Brush Park. Or somewhere else like the state fair grounds site.

Literally a new city within a city is being reborn.

It can't be 150 today. Two hundred six months from now. Two hundred again next year. Etc.

Something of that magnitude would indicate that at least in one part of the city that it is a 'new day' - out with the old, and in with a "New Detroit".

I can guarantee, I think, that if the mayor announced 1,000 new housing units in Brush Park would break ground in three months it would be on the evening news [[national).

"A Brand New Neighborhood is Coming to an Old Neighborhood in Detroit: A "New City" Within the City of Detroit."

It would mention the thousands of 'new' residents, the new arena, the new QLine, the revitalized downtown, maybe even Belle Island, etc. etc. "A 'New Day' in Midtown Detroit. Will this lead to more neighborhoods having their "new" day?"

[G-DDT]

First off, props to the defenders. Also, I appreciate the post of those that can be bold without being too mired in technicality; so, take a tip from Master & Honky [[doesn't sound right-maybe because it sounds like "Master & Commander") for keeping it personal and observant.

What strikes me is how some portioned out neighborhoods persevere quite well. The Cheyenne Littlefield MacKenzie area or around U of D or Marygrove are fine examples [[I think that there is even an area of Warwick, perhaps?-as you go south towards Warrendale. That has it's own preservation club.). It's a shame though, that they have to be so sectioned off and the change in quality so stark from the obvious outlying areas. Now if places like Indian Village, Rosedale Park/Grandmont, and Mexicantown can claim and hold on to it's own preservation....

Look at Brightmoor. That used to be the armpit of the Westside Detroit area in 80's and 90's [[I should know, not only did I know some girls from there.... I had a schoolmate I bought grass off of from that area, and he might as well have been elected Ombudsman. The stories I could tell y'all of that dude...), and now it's sprung back in its own rustic, earthy, roll-up-your-sleeves DIY kind of way that really surprises me. If Highland Park can make a few improvements....there you go.

Granted, as someone pointed out, art, bike lanes, and overpriced hipster eateries are not really boosting things for us, but even the smallest little practical things [[okay like maybe the bike lanes) can make a beautiful difference by those willing to endure the friction, hassle, and uncertainty of it all. Take those guys behind "Sit On It Detroit" for example.

All I know is when I drive past someone in Dearborn and wave at them, I get nothing but a puzzled, misery-loving scowl. When I do the same in Detroit, folks immediately smile and wave without a hesitation. That is the attitude that starts from within to look at things a better way in the face of acknowledging all the adversity, bring out better things from within you, and keep the blight from setting in, the gentrification from undermining us, or the "creeping meatball-ism" from the East from seeping in and turning everyone into selfishly absorbed, numb, conformo, gizmo-gawkers.

...all that, and it would be nice to see a Kroger or 7-11 open up somewhere in the city limits [[thank you Meijer's for not being too afraid on that).

[3WC]

What amazes me about Detroit's "comeback" is that Duggan has not been charged with corruption by the feds. Yet.

[Zacha341]

Hah. Weee, and bully on that. Duggan knows he best be cool. He'd never get the pass KK received all time that he did!

What amazes me about Detroit's "comeback" is that Duggan has not been charged with corruption by the feds. Yet.

[Honky Tonk]

Yep this is my building. SO much better than when I first moved here in 2013. A Canadian group came through and sunk 10 mil into the building, gutted out every unit and renovated the whole building including adding a bunch of amenities.

All they offer are 1 bedrooms? What's parking like, is it enclosed or an open lot?

[Mind field]

How about when the city doesn't have multiple days where there are 3 or 4 homicides in a single day? No normal, tax paying, law abiding citizen will want to live anywhere near that kind of bullshit.

[TTime]

I guess this wasn't really shocking to see especially if you visit other cities regularly. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...s-us/83580252/

[masterblaster]

I guess this wasn't really shocking to see especially if you visit other cities regularly. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...s-us/83580252/

The question was "is Detroit on a comeback?". Those select areas [[downtown, midtown, Corktown, East Riverfront) are ON AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY. Just because there are less businesses within 3 miles of downtown compared to other cities does not negate the fact that those aforementioned areas are seeing population growth, renewed vibrancy, and investment.

Again, why are you such a hater?

[TTime]

The question was "is Detroit on a comeback?". Those select areas [[downtown, midtown, Corktown, East Riverfront) are ON AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY. Just because there are less businesses within 3 miles of downtown compared to other cities does not negate the fact that those aforementioned areas are seeing population growth, renewed vibrancy, and investment.

Again, why are you such a hater?

Ha to answer your question again, I am not a hater. I am simply providing a reality check. Why does the truth bother you so much? Ignore it if you choose, it's that simple but the original question is a loaded one and that article was in the paper this morning and I thought it was relevant because it provided direct evidence to show that the city may not be in a comeback at all. Here go ahead and get even more mad about this article too if you like....http://www.freep.com/story/news/loca...rate/83395596/ ....also in the paper this morning.