good points, elganned, and perception=reality in those cases. it is why so many of those "movements' or "ideologies" fit so snuggly into the old reductio ad absurdum. It is easy to show the ultimate absurdity in an idea born from a misreading or reuctionist misinterpretation
[[in the case of Randian objectivism, if followed to the letter it would achieve a world where, due to their power, corporations would control peoples lives - instead of increasing liberty, it would, in the end, destroy it, hence the inevitable self-contradictory result of objectvism)
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