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  1. #126
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    Oh but many are - and we went thru the riots of Detroit as well.
    https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showth...-riot-coverage
    https://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf...ichigan_r.html
    Yep, we are Detroit , because we don't believe in imaginary lines
    like 8 miles which "suppossedly" separate everything, because they don't
    Last edited by O3H; July-20-18 at 11:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    Yeah, it’s real dishonest to point out that people can’t watch a race if it doesn’t happen. It’s far more dishonest to imply that 737,000 people on Belle Isle all wanted to go to the exact spot of the Grand Prix.

    Speaking of “the people of Detroit”, why is it that many of the detractors of the event aren’t even from Detroit and/or aren’t representative of the majority demographic of this city?
    You are talking about the most popular part of the island. You are aware of that right? Im not sure if you are though considering you thought the GP only took up 10% of the island.

    You really want to talk demographics? I've been to the Grand Prix before, it certainly isn't 80% black, hell, it may not be 10%. Again, tell me how limiting access to a park that on a day to day basis accurately represents the demographics of the residents of Detroit, helps Detroiters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    You are talking about the most popular part of the island. You are aware of that right? Im not sure if you are though considering you thought the GP only took up 10% of the island.

    You really want to talk demographics? I've been to the Grand Prix before, it certainly isn't 80% black, hell, it may not be 10%. Again, tell me how limiting access to a park that on a day to day basis accurately represents the demographics of the residents of Detroit, helps Detroiters.
    On the contrary, I hope you realize how unseemly and downright offensive it is for the same group of fringe detractors always protesting everything and looking to take away things from Detroit and Detroiters. Of course you know better than us and it’s “for our own good”. People wrapping themselves in the flag of the poor, minorities, and Detroit while in reality it’s about being against cars, corporations, “gentrification”, protecting wildlife, fighting against authority, still mad at your parents, or whatever other personal issues are truly behind your motives.

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    Maybe Town Cluber can go to the Cleveland Grand Prix next year ??

    Don't worry Town Cluber; you can still claim to be from Detroit
    while in Cleveland 2019
    Last edited by O3H; July-20-18 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    Maybe Town Cluber can go to the Cleveland Grand Prix next year ??

    Don't worry Town Cluber; you can still claim to be from Detroit
    while in Cleveland 2019
    The question also has to be asked...why are some of the “professional detractors/protestors” so dishonest and outright nasty with their behavior and tactics?

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    Why are some people DENSER than Osmium ?

    Symbol: Os Atomic mass: 190.23 u

    Osmium is perhaps the densest naturally occurring element on the Earth.
    It has twice the density of lead, and slightly more than that of Iridium.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    On the contrary, I hope you realize how unseemly and downright offensive it is for the same group of fringe detractors always protesting everything and looking to take away things from Detroit and Detroiters. Of course you know better than us and it’s “for our own good”. People wrapping themselves in the flag of the poor, minorities, and Detroit while in reality it’s about being against cars, corporations, “gentrification”, protecting wildlife, fighting against authority, still mad at your parents, or whatever other personal issues are truly behind your motives.
    i live in Detroit and use the park weekly. Truly behind my motives? It’s about using the park for its intended purpose. If you’re going to be a clown and play the conspiracy card I’m done with this conversation. Believe it or not, some people like it when their favorite park isn’t obstructed with concrete barricades and chain link fences for the first nice months of the year. Shocking I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    i live in Detroit and use the park weekly. Truly behind my motives? It’s about using the park for its intended purpose. If you’re going to be a clown and play the conspiracy card I’m done with this conversation. Believe it or not, some people like it when their favorite park isn’t obstructed with concrete barricades and chain link fences for the first nice months of the year. Shocking I know.
    So you’re from Detroit and naive enough to think everyone and everything is on the up and up? Talk about shocking and clownish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by southen View Post
    i live in Detroit and use the park weekly. Truly behind my motives? It’s about using the park for its intended purpose. If you’re going to be a clown and play the conspiracy card I’m done with this conversation. Believe it or not, some people like it when their favorite park isn’t obstructed with concrete barricades and chain link fences for the first nice months of the year. Shocking I know.
    A park’s “intended purpose” is to host public events. The Grand Prix is a public event, just not one that you like. Are there detractors that are sincere in their motivations—of course. Are there detractors that have ulterior motives—of course.

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    ABSOLUTELY FALSE - a park is meant to be A PARK

    You know, one of those natural, nice, places folks go to enjoy NATURE
    Trees, grass, water, fresh air, peace and quiet, tranquility

    It is not a auto race track, and never should have been a race track, period.

    Parks are where city dwellers to go -- to relax, out of the city.
    Think Central Park, in the middle of New York City.
    Ever wonder why there is no grand prix circuit in Central Park.........?

    Damn you're a dense piece of work Town Cluber

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/park

    Ohhhhhhhhh just in case you actually do fact check
    -- Central Park NY actually has a Grand Prix [[with horses)
    https://www.centralpark.com/news/geo...rk-grand-prix/
    The Central Park Grand Prix was televised live on NBC Sports Network
    as the first live primetime broadcast of equestrian sport on a major sports network.
    Last edited by O3H; July-20-18 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    ABSOLUTELY FALSE - a park is meant to be A PARK

    You know, one of those natural, nice, places folks go to enjoy NATURE
    Trees, grass, water, fresh air, peace and quiet, tranquility

    It is not a auto race track, and never should have been a race track, period.

    Parks are where city dwellers to go -- to relax, out of the city.
    Think Central Park, in the middle of New York City.
    Ever wonder why there is no grand prix circuit in Central Park.........?

    Damn you're a dense piece of work Town Cluber

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/park

    Ohhhhhhhhh just in case you actually do fact check
    -- Central Park NY actually has a Grand Prix [[with horses)
    https://www.centralpark.com/news/geo...rk-grand-prix/
    The Central Park Grand Prix was televised live on NBC Sports Network
    as the first live primetime broadcast of equestrian sport on a major sports network.
    Based on YOUR criteria, are you giving us a preview of the next fake controversy?

    Banning sports, cars, family reunion bbqs, concerts, Metro Detroit Youth Day, functions at the BI casino, the USCG Station, the DYC/DBC, etc. from Belle Isle?

    Damned dense piece of work indeed!
    Last edited by Towne Cluber; July-20-18 at 02:26 PM.

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    I heard you can only BBQ while being neutral colored.
    No yellows, reds, blacks or whites allowed to roast food on Belle Isle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I heard you can only BBQ while being neutral colored.
    No yellows, reds, blacks or whites allowed to roast food on Belle Isle.
    Oh good, YOU’RE going to allow some cooking on Belle Isle. But only with fires started with sticks and of animals caught on the island. Because, you know, Nature! Or maybe not animals because that would be controversial?
    Last edited by Towne Cluber; July-20-18 at 02:55 PM.

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    I'll go half and half with you Town Cluber, we'll meet in the middle.
    If you hit the deer with a baseball bat, I'll start a fire with sticks/twigs.
    Nothing beats fresh venison roasted over a wood fire. Yum Yum Yum !!!!!!
    Hell, I'll even share some cold beer with you while it cooks.
    Dress neutral so no one can make a case for a Hip Hop BBQ in progress.
    You can even run around in circles, making Vroom Vroom noises :-)
    Oh snap that's NASCAR that turns only left the whole race.
    The Australian version of NASCAR, called AUSCAR turns right all the time.
    Either way, you're free to run around making engine noises the whole day
    Last edited by O3H; July-20-18 at 04:00 PM.

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    Everyone get their penny's worth of entertainment............... ?
    Last edited by O3H; July-21-18 at 10:58 PM.

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    Let's keep it in the headlines all summer, until Labor Day, eh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    Let's keep it in the headlines all summer, until Labor Day, eh ?
    DNR moves forward in plan to keep Grand Prix on Belle Isle

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...sle/849516002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    DNR moves forward in plan to keep Grand Prix on Belle Isle



    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...sle/849516002/

    That'll have you dancing @ the clube tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    That'll have you dancing @ the clube tonight.
    No doubt they'll be open until 2am [[or later?) and have people outside puking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    The dudes I see clogging up Woodward the entire month of August, and "blessing" my neighborhood with garbage, piss and barf are "about 30" and Indy drivers? Could have fooled me.

    I'd say average age is around 70 and no one has seen a professional racetrack.
    What kind of “garbage, piss and barf “are you referring to? The Sunday after the dream cruise the entire route is totally cleaned - by mid-afternoon Sunday, other then merchandise stands you can’t even tell there was a cruise. In the weeks leading up to the Dream Cruise the city looks as prestine as it always does, weekends, weekdays, holidays, there’s nobody barfing or pissing in public. I’m out cruising quite a lot and have never have seen that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by softailrider View Post
    What kind of “garbage, piss and barf “are you referring to? The Sunday after the dream cruise the entire route is totally cleaned - by mid-afternoon Sunday, other then merchandise stands you can’t even tell there was a cruise. In the weeks leading up to the Dream Cruise the city looks as prestine as it always does, weekends, weekdays, holidays, there’s nobody barfing or pissing in public. I’m out cruising quite a lot and have never have seen that.
    Hol up... is Birmingham talking about the Woodward Dream Cruise here or the Ferndale Gay Pride Festival?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    The question also has to be asked...why are some of the “professional detractors/protestors” so dishonest and outright nasty with their behavior and tactics?

    Seriously? You don't live in Detroit either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Seriously? You don't live in Detroit either?
    Your dishonesty is amazing.

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    A week ago I was at the German Grand Prix at the Hockenheim circuit. It may turn out to be the last one in a while because the circuit could not get the financials in order. And this was at a sold out venue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towne Cluber View Post
    Your dishonesty is amazing.
    Maybe Town Cluber can go to the Cleveland Grand Prix next year ??

    Don't worry Town Cluber; you can still claim to be from Detroit
    while in Cleveland 2019


    Yes, no, maybe, all of the above, none of the above? It's a simple question. Most everyone can understand multiple choice.

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