park avenue hotel implosion

[Ltdave]

anyone going downtown to see this tomorrow?

freep is saying 8am...

ive never seen an implosion so my wife and i are thinking of going down, seeing it, then heading someplace downtown for breakfast...

maybe then going to eastern market and probably a loop or two on belle isle...

[gazhekwe]

Sounds like a good plan, implosion or no. Have fun!

[Honky Tonk]

anyone going downtown to see this tomorrow?

freep is saying 8am...

ive never seen an implosion so my wife and i are thinking of going down, seeing it, then heading someplace downtown for breakfast...

maybe then going to eastern market and probably a loop or two on belle isle...

Sounds like a blast.

[emu steve]

Sounds like a blast.

You forgot your emoticon [[rolleyes) or at least a "lol'.

[gvidas]

Bring a respirator and a lawn chair.

[Honky Tonk]

Bring a respirator and a lawn chair.

The article shouldn't be taken lightly. I've been to two, Edison's 5 Sisters, and Hudson's. Both produced huge clouds of thick, serious, choking dust, that spread far from the actual site.

[mtburb]

The article shouldn't be taken lightly. I've been to two, Edison's 5 Sisters, and Hudson's. Both produced huge clouds of thick, serious, choking dust, that spread far from the actual site.

This won't be as epic as Hudson's though.

[emu steve]

Live Webcast:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...sion/29975687/

[canuck]

No problem. I found it funny because when I read ltdave's initial post, he mentioned the time and I thought to myself; what if they delay this thing and dave and wife pushback breakfast for a couple hours... lol.

[emu steve]

So there have been two implosions within the last 12 hours:

1). Park Ave. Hotel 8:00 a.m. EDT

2). Tigers' bullpen 11:45 p.m. EDT [[approximately) last night.

[401don]

So there have been two implosions within the last 12 hours:

1). Park Ave. Hotel 8:00 a.m. EDT

2). Tigers' bullpen 11:45 p.m. EDT [[approximately) last night.

Yeah I was going to watch the Park Ave. but realized it would pale in comparison to last night's massive implosion.

[emu steve]

Yeah I was going to watch the Park Ave. but realized it would pale in comparison to last night's massive implosion.

You're right about that [[sorry I don't have the source. Think it is ESPN.COM).

• Trailed 6-1 entering the 9th
• Had a 0.3% chance of winning in 9th [[per FanGraphs)
• Teams trailing by 5+ in the 9th were previously 0-1,057 over the past 2 seasons
• Brian Dozier's walk-off HR was his 2nd this week

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

Good riddance to that place! Now I can't wait to come visit the loading dock! I hear it will draw folks from far and wide.

[emu steve]

Good riddance to that place! Now I can't wait to come visit the loading dock! I hear it will draw folks from far and wide.

To 99.9% of folks visiting the 'arena district' what will be important are streetscaping for those islands where Clifford and Cass come together as well as a lot of other issues with existing structures such as a few houses on Cass and other building between Sproat and Temple.

Also, traffic flow on Cass, Henry, etc. as well as south of the Fisher as well as convenient, easy to exit parking.

I was in town over the 4th and spent a lot of time downtown. I had to park on W. Montcalm by Clifford for a couple Tigers games. $20 a pop. Last year 10 or 15 bucks on Woodward by Sproat.

And the traffic flow behind the Fox is not good. At least on the old Woodward dirt lots [[Henry - Temple) it was a piece of cake to get out onto Woodward northbound or even Cass, etc. even though they were an urban wasteland.

[Honky Tonk]

Years ago I had friends that lived @ The Crosswinds. What a PITA that was getting in and out during Tiger games, not to mention all the folks looking for free parking. I never could understand why someone would want to live next to a bar, sports arena, or in Eastern Mark-Up.

[Bham1982]

Years ago I had friends that lived @ The Crosswinds. What a PITA that was getting in and out during Tiger games, not to mention all the folks looking for free parking. I never could understand why someone would want to live next to a bar, sports arena, or in Eastern Mark-Up.

But I thought everyone wanted to live next to sports arenas. Isn't that the claim from Ilitch and his enablers? Build a hockey arena, and everyone will want to live there, just like everyone likes to live next to JLA, Comerica, Ford Field, Michigan Stadium, Spartan Stadium, the Palace, Madison Square Garden, Yankee Stadium, Wembley Stadium, Stade de France, etc. [[basically no one).

[CrashDummy]

But I thought everyone wanted to live next to sports arenas. Isn't that the claim from Ilitch and his enablers? Build a hockey arena, and everyone will want to live there, just like everyone likes to live next to JLA, Comerica, Ford Field, Michigan Stadium, Spartan Stadium, the Palace, Madison Square Garden, Yankee Stadium, Wembley Stadium, Stade de France, etc. [[basically no one).

I want to live next to an arena. I used to live right next to JLA, also. The only thing that sucked about it was that there wasn't MORE going on around that area and the isolation because of the freeway.

[canuck]

But I thought everyone wanted to live next to sports arenas. Isn't that the claim from Ilitch and his enablers? Build a hockey arena, and everyone will want to live there, just like everyone likes to live next to JLA, Comerica, Ford Field, Michigan Stadium, Spartan Stadium, the Palace, Madison Square Garden, Yankee Stadium, Wembley Stadium, Stade de France, etc. [[basically no one).

There is a 50 storey Tour des Canadiens being built basically atop the Bell Center in Montreal. Across the street is another 50 floor condo in construction and a 40 storey one next to it. The company building the Tour des Canadiens has started selling twin 50 storey towers next to the first one on St Antoine street. In all, there are about 7 40+floor condos and hotels being built within 2 blocks of the Hockey arena.

Unfortunately, years ago when the Expos decamped to Washington, the only available space big enough to accomodate the proposed Labatt's baseball stadium was sold and is now scheduled for office and condo developments. Living anywhere downtown means having to accept density. The price to pay is noise and traffic. Wembley stadium is in a residential area and so is Parc des Princes in Paris. It is situated in one of the most expensive Paris boroughs; the 16th arrondissement. The area around Wembley is experiencing a residential building boom. Nationals Park in Washington it seems is also attracting mixed condo-retail projects close to the stadium.
Toronto's hockey and baseball venues are surrounded by high density residential projects.

The key to making this work better is ensuring that demands can be met for car drivers and transit users at relevant times.

[Danny]

Good-bye putting on the Ritz!!! Hello Sports Area. Sacrifices has to be made for progress.

[bust]

To 99.9% of folks visiting the 'arena district' what will be important are streetscaping for those islands where Clifford and Cass come together as well as a lot of other issues with existing structures such as a few houses on Cass and other building between Sproat and Temple.

Also, traffic flow on Cass, Henry, etc. as well as south of the Fisher as well as convenient, easy to exit parking.

I was in town over the 4th and spent a lot of time downtown. I had to park on W. Montcalm by Clifford for a couple Tigers games. $20 a pop. Last year 10 or 15 bucks on Woodward by Sproat.

And the traffic flow behind the Fox is not good. At least on the old Woodward dirt lots [[Henry - Temple) it was a piece of cake to get out onto Woodward northbound or even Cass, etc. even though they were an urban wasteland.

I like most of the posts I've read from you emu steve, but here your concerns are all about driving to the game, cheap and convenient parking, and getting quickly out, with a nice view along the way. We should be building a city for people to live in, not to visit only for the game.

Arenas don't make good neighbors. Let's seek to mitigate the inevitable problem that arises when massive structures are built that sit empty 90% of the time, and flood the vicinity with people with no connection to the neighborhood the other 10%. For the "arena district" to be anything close to the thriving neighborhood the Ilitches ask us to imagine in their public relations dream we need the kinds of commerce, amenities, and services that will attract more people to live there full time. Otherwise the parking lots and old empty buildings will be replaced by another kind of wasteland flooded by occasional traffic, a few new buildings that still sit empty most of the time, and if we’re lucky a few trees.

Maybe you didn’t mean to, but it sounds like it’s your opinion that for 99.9% of the people, yourself included, that’s fine. That's not good enough for me.

[Zacha341]

Here's a view:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/29...loded-saturday

[DetroitBoy]

Finally ripping that derelict slum hotel down. Time to clean out the rest of that 'hood and move forward with the New Detroit. Good riddance!

[emu steve]

To anticipate posting [["When will work begin on the Eddystone?").

My guess 2017. Don't want to renovate a building while a massive structure is being built with a lot of trucks, construction equipment, etc.

Another item for Ilitch Holdings 2017 list of 'to dos'...

[Smirnoff]

What about the rest of the abandoned buildings downtown.......kaboom!

[CrashDummy]

What about the rest of the abandoned buildings downtown.......kaboom!

Yeah, they missed one other of Tuller's "gems" right across the street. It's fitting that it only took 15 seconds to bring down, because didn't take much longer than that to build.