The elephant in the room: CRIME

[Wesley Mouch]

That is basically true, which doesn't mean that lots of poor people haven't been displaced out of the city--there is a ton of in-migration of poor people. ...

So in other words, NYC under Bloomberg has successfully raised the living standards of a great number of poor people who were thus able to move elsewhere and pursue their dreams?

NYC has done better than the nation as a whole, probably both because their city government is less inept, and because of more favorable demographics.

Find any reason except the truth. More proactive policing works. It will be interesting to see how crime rates go over the next couple years with proactive policing now being replaced by 'ah, let 'em go -- let's not risk our jobs' policing the left has demanded.

[ABetterDetroit]

Helicopters? A 1980's solution to a 2015 problem? Well-trained officers with an emphasis on "well-trained" and more police cars are what is needed to help solve this problem. Multi-million dollar aircraft with large 6 figure leases, fuel and maintenance costs, etc. will not replace well-trained personnel on the ground with adequate equipment like a police car. A $1000 drone and $100 surveillance cameras is the future. Spend the money on the people in the trenches instead of the expensive methods of the past. Detroit is poised to skip a generation in crime fighting tech.

[Honky Tonk]

Helicopters? A 1980's solution to a 2015 problem? Well-trained officers with an emphasis on "well-trained" and more police cars are what is needed to help solve this problem. Multi-million dollar aircraft with large 6 figure leases, fuel and maintenance costs, etc. will not replace well-trained personnel on the ground with adequate equipment like a police car. A $1000 drone and $100 surveillance cameras is the future. Spend the money on the people in the trenches instead of the expensive methods of the past. Detroit is poised to skip a generation in crime fighting tech.

Bingo.......

[DetroitBoy]

Helicopters? A 1980's solution to a 2015 problem? Well-trained officers with an emphasis on "well-trained" and more police cars are what is needed to help solve this problem. Multi-million dollar aircraft with large 6 figure leases, fuel and maintenance costs, etc. will not replace well-trained personnel on the ground with adequate equipment like a police car. A $1000 drone and $100 surveillance cameras is the future. Spend the money on the people in the trenches instead of the expensive methods of the past. Detroit is poised to skip a generation in crime fighting tech.

It's poised to have military troops rolling in to stop these 20-something year old 'urban terrorists' and restore order.

[Cliffy]

http://www.wxyz.com/news/six-men-att...oits-west-side

Who wants to live in this city. Its like something out of a movie.

[313WX]

http://www.wxyz.com/news/six-men-att...oits-west-side

Who wants to live in this city.

Yep, especially if the only solution to address these problems will be 1984-esque measures. A police state will be jut as bad as a Mad Max state.

[DetroitBoy]

http://www.wxyz.com/news/six-men-att...oits-west-side

Who wants to live in this city. Its like something out of a movie.

It's no movie I want to see. Been living this nightmare and ashamed of being from this area all my life. How much longer will it be before we give up on peace marches, crime task forces, being worried about active policing and all this other nonsense which is not fixing the crime problem. It's past time to lay the law down and roll in the troops to clean up the streets. I am tired of hearing about one more brazen crime after another this summer and listening to the same old song and dance:

There weren't many witnesses to the crime, and it was hard to find those who wanted to talk about it.
"I ain't seen nothing, don't know nothing," said one man.

[Mind field]

An army of drones should be unleashed over the skies of Detroit. In conjunction with gunshot recognition tech that could triangulate the position of any and all gunshots and keep a lock on the location of the perpetrator until they are apprehended. It wouldn't solve all crime, but it would get some more of the lowlifes off the streets and locked up in cages where they belong.

[rex]

I guess its safe to assume there is no longer crime in the city. The news rarely reports is. The open data site hasn't been sharing it in almost a week. Should we rejoice? The streets are safe?

[Zacha341]

^^^ Yeah, I noticed that crimemapping has not reported anything outside of Hamtramck in weeks. I someone who got their car stolen and car jackings have happened nearby.

Be careful everyone, and watch your surroundings where ever you go!

[rex]

the open data site public safety link used to report all crime, all homicides, location of homicide.
They were keeping it updated as well but now there are 7 available tabs worth of static data.

[Mind field]

I also have wondered about the conspicuous absence of crime data and homicide data the last week or so. Hmmmmm.

[313WX]

I also have wondered about the conspicuous absence of crime data and homicide data the last week or so. Hmmmmm.

Agreed. I would hope there's a logical reason for the absence.

[Zacha341]

Yep. Still absent of data. Though Hamtramck is showing data. At least on crimemapping.com

Agreed. I would hope there's a logical reason for the absence.

[Mind field]

The homicide data is back on the city's website.