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    I don't want my council members calling me a sinner because I like to go to strip clubs and don't attend church on Sundays. I have nothing against men and women of faith, but the idea that they can run for office and preach God's law and at the same time work on man's law is a cultural clash which is why some people did not want church and state to mingle.

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    ..so when issues come up concerning things like casinos, bars and strip clubs, would Spivey be expected to "punish" such institutions?

    With respect the the various perks of office [[i.e., leased car, full salary, expense account, etc.), would he decline them [[since, he presumably has perks already), or fully take advantage?
    Last edited by Hypestyles; August-06-09 at 03:56 PM.

  3. #28

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    Spivey will be a okay council memeer. His the better speakers next to Rapheal B. Johnson [[ The murder) Johnson killed.

    I was pulling for Spivey along with Dale Foster. I fell bad for Dale though harrasement case might have hurt him. I can see Hall and Spivey pulling ahead. Kenyatta, Tinsely, Jenkins, and Watson, must be left in the DUST!!!!

    Fred Hall is time in the techtown!!!
    Spivey is soild all around.

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega View Post
    Spivey is soild all around.
    Yeah, I think most council candidates are soild all around.

  5. #30

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    Here's some history on the subject

    http://www.cus.wayne.edu/content/pub...ckChurches.pdf

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8RBOB View Post
    Short answer: HELL NO

    Long answer: This country used to be believe in the separation of church and state. Some people believed that they didn't want the nation being under the thumb of religious zealots like some of our fellow Muslim nations.

    That said, having a father, a reverend, a minister, a nun, a bishop running for public office is bad, bad, bad. Having a voice that is on the side of "GOD" beyond the council chamber would be the wrong move for Detroit.
    Uh... Amen!

  7. #32

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    For those who express concern about separation of church and state:

    How do you draw the line between a person's right to attempt to influence their world to function in the manner they believe it should function, and the fear that a special interest group will control things to the detriment of others? I really believe everyone has that right to attempt influence [[not control, but influence). If they didn't, nothing would ever change for the better or worse. Plus, when you don't give people that right, they will eventually try to take it by force anyway, hence the American Revolution.

    So, on one hand, I'm the kind of person who believes you should try to shape your "world". I have a problem with people who sit back and let the world change around them without trying to influence the direction of that change. On the other hand, if I'm honest, I only get really worried when others try to shape it differently from the way I want it shaped and I believe they have the power to accomplish it. Is that somewhat hypocritical of me? Or self-serving, as we humans tend to be?

    I'm not being facetious. This is the conflict I have in my mind. I want to shape my world. How can I begrudge others that same desire?

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