Just for clarification, what is everyone's definition of a highrise/skyscraper?
Just for clarification, what is everyone's definition of a highrise/skyscraper?
Because downtown Detroit has had so little vertical construction in recent years, the Detroit media is often very generous with both terms when speculating on new developments. My minimum in Detroit for a high rise would be 8-10 stories, and for a skyscraper, 30. If I were discussing Chicago or Toronto, it would be 50.
It's only appropriate to bring this post up at this time of the construction boom. With that being said, I would like to see a complete view of what's to come of our new skyline.
I rather wait until more high rise development pop up to get a full concept of what's to come. You have the Joe Louis arena site slated for highrises, the failed jail site also planned for high rises. Both is proposed for multiple high rises on site, between 15 to 30 story in height.
Other ground-up developments such as the LCA posh hotel and the long forgotten LVD hotel is Brush Park, will lined along I-75. Possibly between 10 to 15 story in height.
With about 6 more hotels coming on-site, wondering why some hotel brands haven't jump on board downtown. Looking forward to a Hyatt, Ritz Carlton and a W Hotel.
Rumor has it, the parking lots in front of Comerica Park is being reexamined for residential high rises. Now, if we can work on the west side of Downtown then we're going somewhere.
Detroit in 2025 is going to epic!
How real of a rumor is the change of programming at Comerica? The Ilitch's announced all of the residential around the arena months ago and nothing has been done. I take anything they do or say with a grain of salt.
a push to build upward downtown is surprising to me and especially residential towers. Plenty of neighborhoods near downtown are empty. Some are fields waiting for someone to develop. Others are partially cleared away with lots of abandonment remaining.
Different markets. Some people want high rise living and living on a dense block vs. a more suburban feel.
https://imgur.com/a/kZQJ1
Check out the pics I took from the Hudson's Site meeting at Greektown Casino last Friday. More pics on my imgur
The neighborhoods near downtown are NOT empty. Each neighborhood in every direction is currently seeing tons of investment, either planned or already finished.
Lots of infill residential projects are popping up in Corktown, Lafayette Park, Riverfront, Midtown, Brush Park, Eastern Market..even in further neighborhoods outside of those like West Village. Well all the villages, and beyond.
Do some research before assuming that the surrounding neighborhoods aren't thriving. It's only getting better, do a drive by and let me know what you see.
Will the high rise be completely detached from the low rise, even at street level?https://imgur.com/a/kZQJ1
Check out the pics I took from the Hudson's Site meeting at Greektown Casino last Friday. More pics on my imgur
I don't mind it. The tower almost looked like an afterthought in the previous designs, something just sort of added on just because. This breaks up the block and adds more pedestrian space to be activated. What I really like about this and Monroe Block is the attention paid to how these structures interact at the street level.
I still think the design is unbalanced as a whole, it deserves a second tower on the north side.
I want what you're smoking. Core City. Really everything west of Rosa Parks and most of the way to Livernois. St Aubin to Mt Elliot going east. The villages and Corktown have been stable. Midtown has filled in.The neighborhoods near downtown are NOT empty. Each neighborhood in every direction is currently seeing tons of investment, either planned or already finished.
Lots of infill residential projects are popping up in Corktown, Lafayette Park, Riverfront, Midtown, Brush Park, Eastern Market..even in further neighborhoods outside of those like West Village. Well all the villages, and beyond.
Do some research before assuming that the surrounding neighborhoods aren't thriving. It's only getting better, do a drive by and let me know what you see.
Last edited by rex; November-16-17 at 10:12 PM.
The SHoP speakers that were present at the event described this cut through as a main point in the design. Their ambitions were to design an open area that connects Library Square to Woodward with markets and retail flanking both sides. In my opinion, being at the presentation and seeing different renderings of it, gave me a great perspective on the idea! The architects involved were really excited about that aspect and overall [[I believe) it will promote good urbanism and walk-ability in the area.
Sounds fine in theory. I just don't know where all this retail is supposed to come from. If they fill this area is there enough demand to fill Woodward to GCP, Monroe Block, etc. etc.The SHoP speakers that were present at the event described this cut through as a main point in the design. Their ambitions were to design an open area that connects Library Square to Woodward with markets and retail flanking both sides. In my opinion, being at the presentation and seeing different renderings of it, gave me a great perspective on the idea! The architects involved were really excited about that aspect and overall [[I believe) it will promote good urbanism and walk-ability in the area.
Fair, but like all things, the market will dictate. If people [[businesses) want to move/expand in to these areas, they will.
Last edited by UrbanViews; November-17-17 at 11:39 AM.
I just think sometimes these architectural firms design what might be ideal but not necessarily market driven. By leaving the cut through they are creating more ground floor retail space than the market will ever need. It will leave vacant space there or elsewhere as opposed to just a street wall along Woodward. Also I don't think it will be as visually appealing as the tower rising from a single base, but that part is just my opinion.
I haven't seen any data that supports the cut through either way, I do know if a good chunk is taken up by a market place, there are a lot of existing and future residential units that will be in the immediate vicinity [[Hudson's Tower, Monroe Residential, and Merchant's Row to name a few.)I just think sometimes these architectural firms design what might be ideal but not necessarily market driven. By leaving the cut through they are creating more ground floor retail space than the market will ever need. It will leave vacant space there or elsewhere as opposed to just a street wall along Woodward. Also I don't think it will be as visually appealing as the tower rising from a single base, but that part is just my opinion.
As far as aesthetically, I personally like the pedestrian market place and cut through. It is of my belief that it could give a more airy and pedestrian friendly version of 'the belt.' Like I said though, just my opinion on the matter. It means next to nothing to most people lol
Check this out. Vision of the Hudson site in our skyline.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/com...ll_change_our/
You can give credit where credit it due. There is a grain of substance in that the development will happen, but when it will be built and what it will entail can't be trusted until construction is underway. If history is any indicator, when it does happen the actual building process will progress very quickly. I agree with the late Ilitch's overall vision, but really hate him for his character as it relates to his slumlord business tactics and lack of concern for historic preservation.
|
Bookmarks