Controversy over male on female assault at Grosse Pointe North [[video)

[MAcc]

Are we witnessing the fall of what was once the state's most elite public school system? Not good for the region.

Top 10 Michigan schools Avg. ACT score [[2014)
1. International Academy [[Bloomfield Hills) 29.2
2. Washtenaw International High School 27.3
3. International Academy of Macomb 26.8
4. City Middle/High School [[Grand Rapids) 26.4
5. Community High School [[Ann Arbor) 25.4
6. Northville High School 25.1
7. Birmingham Seaholm High School 25
8. Troy High School 25
9. Rochester Adams High School 24.8
10. Okemos High School 24.8
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Grosse Pointe South 23.8
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Grosse Pointe North 22


http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/27...-pointe-school

[nain rouge]

I'll repost my comment from a recent topic:

Let's face it: Grosse Pointe North is one gun or gang incident away from being the next Ferndale Public Schools.

Metro Detroit's east side is suffering from serious racial tensions. I should know because I lived there for awhile and experienced it firsthand. Still, IMO, that video is much ado about nothing. That behavior that should be punished, but the news is clearly trying to stoke the flames here.

Living by 14 Mile and attending Warren Con, I was bullied and attacked a few times. That's just how school is. Even at 40 Mile there are bullies, believe it or not.

[Gpwrangler]

I'll repost my comment from a recent topic:

Let's face it: Grosse Pointe North is one gun or gang incident away from being the next Ferndale Public Schools.
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That's like saying you're one fatal car accident away from being just like the other 500 people who died in car wrecks last year.

There were troublemakers when I went to school. People who were there to learn just stayed away from them and did fine. We had bullies too, but there weren't "task forces" about it back then. You learned to avoid trouble, or got caught up in it.

[MikeM]

Oh brother, what drama! I was expecting some bloody, ass beat-to-a-pulp video. I saw much, much worse, several times a year when I went there decades ago. Sounds like racist parents trying to stir up some shit.

[Bham1982]

Why are Detroit boosters so anti-Grosse Pointe? I will never get it. They don't realize that Grosse Pointe's desirability is directly tied to Detroit's desirability, and any "slippage" in the Pointes relative to the Northvilles and Bloomfields of the world is an implicit referendum on the relative [[lack of) desirability of Detroit?

The Pointes are the canary in the coal mine. You cannot have a healthy downtown without healthy areas in proximity. If people are paying more to live in McSprawlsville Township, with none of the charm of the Pointes, then that's a referendum on the region's core.

[JBMcB]

Why are Detroit boosters so anti-Grosse Pointe?

Because the modus operandi here is badmouthing your neighbors to make yourself look better. Goes both ways - city to suburb and suburb to city. If one area is getting better than the another area must be getting worse. It's the same old stupid zero sum game, us vs. them mentality that makes for good populist politicking but makes the whole region worse off.

Schadenfreude uber alles!

[MAcc]

Why are Detroit boosters so anti-Grosse Pointe? I will never get it. They don't realize that Grosse Pointe's desirability is directly tied to Detroit's desirability, and any "slippage" in the Pointes relative to the Northvilles and Bloomfields of the world is an implicit referendum on the relative [[lack of) desirability of Detroit?

The Pointes are the canary in the coal mine. You cannot have a healthy downtown without healthy areas in proximity. If people are paying more to live in McSprawlsville Township, with none of the charm of the Pointes, then that's a referendum on the region's core.

I am not anti-GP, to the contrary, actually. I recognize it as an asset. I also recall growing up that it, along with Bloomfield Hills, were the most elite districts in the state. That is no longer the case. A school district in despair typically spells doom for the town. I can't think of any town that recovers from an influx of low-income trouble.

[SyGolden48236]

I am not anti-GP, to the contrary, actually. I recognize it as an asset. I also recall growing up that it, along with Bloomfield Hills, were the most elite districts in the state. That is no longer the case. A school district in despair typically spells doom for the town. I can't think of any town that recovers from an influx of low-income trouble.

If the GP school district would disassociate itself from the Harper Woods portion of the district you would see a marked improvement in the test scores and the rankings district-wide. People are too afraid to say that publicly because the truth is not always politically correct. But the truth is the truth. People need to stop being so afraid of the loudmouth liberal PC agenda and do what is right for their own community.

[canuck]

If the GP school district would disassociate itself from the Harper Woods portion of the district you would see a marked improvement in the test scores and the rankings district-wide. People are too afraid to say that publicly because the truth is not always politically correct. But the truth is the truth. People need to stop being so afraid of the loudmouth liberal PC agenda and do what is right for their own community.

Let's get rid of the ghettoes altogether, and start looking out for the good of our greater community. Ghettoes are man-made and need to be broken by folks on either side of our fences, let's do that. Liberal PC agenda or Conservative induced paranoïa, which is better really?

Der oylem iz a goylen, Oy veh!

[Danny]

I seen it coming folks. Troubled black folks and their broken [[single families with no man present) coming to Richville Schools! According to Schooldigger.com There has been a influx of black students coming to attend Grosse Pointe North High School. Most of them had been attending Harper Woods elementary and Middle School. Not sure the Harper Woods High School is there since its was demolished and replaced by a new middle school.

When black folks [[mostly from Detroit) move in to Harper Woods by the thousands, its public school system went from 90% white in 1990 to 87% black in 2014. Poupard Elementary [[ which its part of Grosse Pointe Public Schools) is over 67% black students. Grosse Pointe North High School black student population stands at 26%. By 2020 it accelerate to 60%. As long as more black students attend Harper Woods Public Schools, trouble starts! Just like they did in Detroit Public Schools from the 1950s to the 1990s. Grosse Pointe South High will be next in 25 years. Race is going to be blame everywhere in America. Instead of dealing about it and blame each other on color. It's horrible and it's fused in human nature for generations. It's all part of history.

What would happen if more poor black folks enrolled to Unversity Liggett School?

[Gpwrangler]

I am not anti-GP, to the contrary, actually. I recognize it as an asset. I also recall growing up that it, along with Bloomfield Hills, were the most elite districts in the state. That is no longer the case. A school district in despair typically spells doom for the town. I can't think of any town that recovers from an influx of low-income trouble.

Oh my God, my town is doomed because of a dozen low lifes at the high school. Doesn't get any better than this.

[Danny]

Oh my God, my town is doomed because of a dozen low lifes at the high school. Doesn't get any better than this.

Wait until shooting starts at Grosse Pointe North High School. Even some students who affiliated with the E. 7 Mile Bloods do their G-checking there.

[Gpwrangler]

Wait until shooting starts at Grosse Pointe North High School. Even some students who affiliated with the E. 7 Mile Bloods do their G-checking there.

I'm not in high school anymore and neither are my kids. I have no clue what goes on there. But it doesn't "doom" the town.

[EastsideAl]

Only the northern part of Harper Woods sends kids to Grosse Pointe North. Most of Harper Woods feeds into its own school district and high school. And Harper Woods is pretty different from the Grosse Pointe comunities in terms of housing stock, socio-economic history, services, etc. It's really more like nearby Macomb County communities, like East Detroit [[ahem, Eastpointe) than like the Grosse Pointes. And it has a concentration of rental complexes around the Eastland area.

I really don't see any signs of decay at all in GP, GP Farms, most of GP Woods and GP Park. Kercheval is reasonably healthy, even with the changes that are impacting small retail commercial strips everywhere, as is Mack from Moross north. My cousins' kids go to GP North, GP South, and other GP public schools, and all are quite happy with them. Like pretty much everywhere around here, the housing market is a bit sluggish, but the GP Woods house of a recently deceased cousin of mine sold pretty well last year. I'm not entirely sure why all the panic here. A lot of it seems like shit-stirring for shit-stirring's sake.

[Bobl]

I see a non-thinking or non-caring kid who should not be allowed back into the school. Let him attend adult education classes if he will act reasonably, but never again that school. It's not a race thing, it's a behavior expectation thing. Students should be expected to act in a civil manner.

[canuck]

I see a non-thinking or non-caring kid who should not be allowed back into the school. Let him attend adult education classes if he will act reasonably, but never again that school. It's not a race thing, it's a behavior expectation thing. Students should be expected to act in a civil manner.

There you go. It's about kids with behavioral problems. Maybe ADD or anyone of the disorders that make some kids act screwy or just bad parenting of course. That said, if I guy did that to my daughter, I would go bonkers.

But this needs to be adressed in a serious manner and the city of Grosse Pointe and its population will keep on living. I hope the young lady is doing OK.

[Honky Tonk]

This whole "mix" thing gets me. I frequent GP a LOT, and always think to myself that it's one of the most racially mixed scenes I encounter anywhere in the Metro-Detroit area. Maybe I'm just being delusional.

[nain rouge]

Besides Grosse Pointe Park, all of the Grosse Pointes are over 90% white. The Farms are 95% white!

[Danny]

Besides Grosse Pointe Park, all of the Grosse Pointes are over 90% white. The Farms are 95% white!

With a public system which its mostly white in the southern portions and and white/black mixed in northern portions. Poupard Elementery in Harper Woods, in which the school is part of Grosse Pointe Public Schools is 67% black.

[313WX]

This whole "mix" thing gets me. I frequent GP a LOT, and always think to myself that it's one of the most racially mixed scenes I encounter anywhere in the Metro-Detroit area. Maybe I'm just being delusional.

A lot of Detroiters shop in The Village or along Mack [[mainly due to the severe lack of other shopping options) and use Beaumont Hospital...

Otherwise, yeah...you're being pretty delusional...

[Gpwrangler]

A lot of Detroiters shop in The Village or along Mack [[mainly due to the severe lack of other shopping options) and use Beaumont Hospital...

Otherwise, yeah...you're being pretty delusional...

i think a few on here better put down the crack pipe.

[mikefmich]

Anyone know definitively why north of Parkcrest on the east, and Damman on the west in HW wound up under the GP school system?

[DetroitBoy]

Anyone know definitively why north of Parkcrest on the east, and Damman on the west in HW wound up under the GP school system?

Don't know. Some people in the Farms and Park don't even consider the Woods as part of GP. South was the real Grosse Pointe HS because it was the only one for a long time. The Woods is really more like Harper Woods than it ever was like the Farms and Park. Different classes of people.

[Gpwrangler]

Don't know. Some people in the Farms and Park don't even consider the Woods as part of GP. South was the real Grosse Pointe HS because it was the only one for a long time. The Woods is really more like Harper Woods than it ever was like the Farms and Park. Different classes of people.

Lol that's funny.

[MikeM]

Don't know. Some people in the Farms and Park don't even consider the Woods as part of GP. South was the real Grosse Pointe HS because it was the only one for a long time. The Woods is really more like Harper Woods than it ever was like the Farms and Park. Different classes of people.

That is funny. Must be tough to acknowledge your poor relations. I remember some pompous ass ,who lived on Belanger of all streets, get this momentary confused look on his face when I told him where I lived. "Oh, you're 'up in the Woods!'"