What is going on at Red Wings arena site?

[401don]

Columbia street is looking pretty good. Lot's of potential here with many storefronts, although only a few have businesses coming in to them.

That's the issue isn't it. As storefront retail shrinks across the country, after all these years Detroit is now adding spaces like we've never seen in our lifetimes. Parking lots look bad but so do empty storefronts.

[masterblaster]

That's the issue isn't it. As storefront retail shrinks across the country, after all these years Detroit is now adding spaces like we've never seen in our lifetimes. Parking lots look bad but so do empty storefronts.

Detroit had little retail for decades, now a FEW, just a FEW, storefronts are being built, and you are predicting doom already. This one-block strip hasn't even opened yet. There are 3 restaurants lined up for that block plus a Starbucks, as well as a two-pronged M-Den store.

Big city downtowns have retail storefronts on every block and will always be retail destinations unto themselves, even if brick-and-mortar retail is declining. Plus the few storefronts being built aren't all retail - bars and restaurants are being opened in these storefronts at a greater rate than retail.

[401don]

Detroit had little retail for decades, now a FEW, just a FEW, storefronts are being built, and you are predicting doom already. This one-block strip hasn't even opened yet. There are 3 restaurants lined up for that block plus a Starbucks, as well as a two-pronged M-Den store.

Big city downtowns have retail storefronts on every block and will always be retail destinations unto themselves, even if brick-and-mortar retail is declining. Plus the few storefronts being built aren't all retail - bars and restaurants are being opened in these storefronts at a greater rate than retail.

Did I predict doom? I just said it's ironic now that Detroit is in an economic position to support more retail, it's at a time when retail is declining. I wasn't specifically talking about these few storefronts, I was simply saying there are a lot to fill with more coming online. Obviously, more retail is great.

[NSortzi]

Detroit had little retail for decades, now a FEW, just a FEW, storefronts are being built, and you are predicting doom already. This one-block strip hasn't even opened yet. There are 3 restaurants lined up for that block plus a Starbucks, as well as a two-pronged M-Den store.

Big city downtowns have retail storefronts on every block and will always be retail destinations unto themselves, even if brick-and-mortar retail is declining. Plus the few storefronts being built aren't all retail - bars and restaurants are being opened in these storefronts at a greater rate than retail.

FWIW, the Starbucks isn't going to be on Columbia. It's going to be a block north on Woodward and Montcalm. They've been actively working on the storefront.