When I drove around Belle Isle on Sunday, I stopped by to take a look at the Scott Fountain. I noticed 10-12 guys skateboarding in the dry fountain.
Can that damage the marble?
When I drove around Belle Isle on Sunday, I stopped by to take a look at the Scott Fountain. I noticed 10-12 guys skateboarding in the dry fountain.
Can that damage the marble?
Yes, Skateboards swill damage the fountain. Not from rolling on the rubber wheels, but it will come from grinding the base and axel assemblies along the rims for the pools. The pools sides and statue animals are also subject to being whacked at high rates of speed by the boards when the rider falls off.
I say yes because, even with rubber or plastic wheels, the grit those wheels will be particles of orthoclase or quartz with a hardness in the range of 6-7 that will erode marble which has a hardness of about 3.5-4.0 .
http://www.rockrollers.com/features/hardness.html
I suppose an analogy would be rubbing a dusty dry rag over car paint.
I say yes because, even with rubber or plastic wheels, the grit those wheels will be particles of orthoclase or quartz with a hardness in the range of 6-7 that will erode marble which has a hardness of about 3.5-4.0 .
http://www.rockrollers.com/features/hardness.html
I suppose an analogy would be rubbing a dusty dry rag over car paint.
Sorry, I am going blind I meant "the grit embedded in those wheels will have particles of..."
Why isn't the DNR ticketing them?
Oh, I guess it's 'cause they're not playing basketball or something … not sure …
FYI - it was a multi-racial group.
I also think there was a wedding about to take place on the plaza around the fountain.
Last edited by GPCharles; October-28-14 at 10:35 AM.
Haha. Don't you worry your poor head about me, rex. I'm feeling better than ever, and I dare say I'm engaging more people than I ever have.
I do feel sorry for some people, for whom entire topics are off-limits ... that is, unless they're out in the garage with their buddies and can "speak freely."
Didn't see any.
Your welcome for the diagnosis. Go on ahead and work on those flaws. You really believe you're engaging people? Trying too hard to bring up your so called off limits topics and injecting them in threads when they clearly dont belong is more counterproductive than anything.
Perhaps it might be a good idea if somebody would put something more appropriate for skaters to use. I'm not a huge fan of the stick, but a carrot might work.
And I say that as somebody who's generally opposed to building up the park at all.
except they just did that, very nearby..as you know. they likely had to drive right by it.
http://evergreenskateparks.com/ride-...se-2-detroit-m
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/d...t_sculptu.html
Last edited by bailey; October-28-14 at 12:00 PM.
There's a skateboard park, in your neck of the woods, @ the end of Gallagher and Davison. [[NO, it's NOT on the freeway) It has half-pipes, mounds, rails, slides, everything needed to shred to your heart's content. Even the famous Tony Hawk, visited and boarded there once. I don't understand, [[well, I kinda do) why a historic fountain, or marble museum steps, or other places that are maintained and kept up, need to be wrecked. If a park is too tame for you, try one of the thousand abandoned structures in the City.
Well, not knowing who was skating, it's hard to say whether they had the means or not to hit that one up in Banglatown.There's a skateboard park, in your neck of the woods, @ the end of Gallagher and Davison. [[NO, it's NOT on the freeway) It has half-pipes, mounds, rails, slides, everything needed to shred to your heart's content. Even the famous Tony Hawk, visited and boarded there once. I don't understand, [[well, I kinda do) why a historic fountain, or marble museum steps, or other places that are maintained and kept up, need to be wrecked. If a park is too tame for you, try one of the thousand abandoned structures in the City.
In the best of all worlds, there would at least be a sign telling people why they shouldn't grind on a historic structure. They may not be aware of the damage they can do.
Then again, the Scott Fountain has been scrapped before, so there are worse ways to do damage, I guess.
I wonder why it's dry now? Perhaps because we're due for a freeze soon?
I believe they stop running sometime in Sept/Oct and have probably properly winterized it/drained pipes, etc [[something the city likely never did or never did properly)Well, not knowing who was skating, it's hard to say whether they had the means or not to hit that one up in Banglatown.
In the best of all worlds, there would at least be a sign telling people why they shouldn't grind on a historic structure. They may not be aware of the damage they can do.
Then again, the Scott Fountain has been scrapped before, so there are worse ways to do damage, I guess.
I wonder why it's dry now? Perhaps because we're due for a freeze soon?
NOAA is predicting snow flurries this Friday and Saturday. It has hit the low 40's @ night. I met a gentleman a few years back that was the engineer for the Scott fountain. It takes a bit to blow out those lines to prevent damage. There was also an indoor 2-ended ramp and skateboard shop on Joseph Compost @ one time.Well, not knowing who was skating, it's hard to say whether they had the means or not to hit that one up in Banglatown.
In the best of all worlds, there would at least be a sign telling people why they shouldn't grind on a historic structure. They may not be aware of the damage they can do.
Then again, the Scott Fountain has been scrapped before, so there are worse ways to do damage, I guess.
I wonder why it's dry now? Perhaps because we're due for a freeze soon?
People bitch about the cops for being too tough on people with warrants, but then want them to go after kids who are skateboarding...
I'm all for the cops getting both the felons and the people doing property damage. Arrest the felons, and give the skateboarders a stern talking to.
The DNR\Police are not omnipresent, you need to report crimes.
Frankly, I wasn't sure they were causing any damage AND I didn't want to be the old fart ruining the fun of a bunch of 20 somethings. They weren't bothering anyone that was at the fountain. It looked to me like the now-dry base of the fountain was only concrete anyway. I didn't think about them doing anything to the marble surround.
The last time I was on skateboard, they had ceramic wheels [[mid-60s).
Funny that so many people are attacking Dnerd when it is clearly true. It may not be purely race but a socio-economic issue.
Funny that people defend tactics that are near stop and frisk for 'those people' on the island but are convinced that kids that may be causing damage to the fountain should not have their fun ruined or just get a stern talkin' to.
So to be clear: Driving a beater is cause for being searched. Possibly damaging property is just kids being kids. Got it.
This sums up the prevailing, backward attitude that this forum has developed.
Had they been from a different background and knocked over an empty garbage can I' sure this forum would bitch about the 'thugs' on the island.
No, getting your plates scanned and discovering you have 42 outstanding warrants, or the vehicle is involved some crime, is. Just to be clear. As far as the skateboarders, they should be ticketed or detained and have their parents pick them up. I drive a hooptie, I've had them scan my plates multiple times, and I've never ended up face down in the dirt. Know why? There's nothing to see here.
But it's so much more fun to blame racism\racial profiling than it is to blame your warrants!No, getting your plates scanned and discovering you have 42 outstanding warrants, or the vehicle is involved some crime, is. Just to be clear. As far as the skateboarders, they should be ticketed or detained and have their parents pick them up. I drive a hooptie, I've had them scan my plates multiple times, and I've never ended up face down in the dirt. Know why? There's nothing to see here.
As to the kids, no need to ticket or detain them, just tell them to "stop doin' that", and if they listen, great! Otherwise, start busting out the fines.
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