plan to shut off water failed, next plan? just foreclose on them. 80k in wayne county

[Dan Wesson]

[QUOTE=Honky Tonk;455830]Isn't Leviticus the company that makes A/C recepticles and light switches?[/QUOTE)

Now that you brought that up you maybe be correct. Parent company maybe?

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

Isn't Leviticus the company that makes A/C recepticles and light switches?

I believe you are thinking of Leviton

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/Home....1&respid=22372

[Willi]

Water should cost about $100 per Gallon, and I'm serious. It is waaaayyyy toooo cheap now.
Only then will people treat it as the precious commodity it truly is.
I have no problem turning spigots shut until people pay their water bills.
They need the water - more than electricity, and more than the gasoline in their cars.
Clean , pressurized, drinkable water delivered into a home is a service industry.

[compn]

my solution is to cut detroit up into seperate cities.
let that land go back to the state. let them take care of it.

do you think forclosure and auctions will work in detroit?
wayne county has been doing auctions for a while now.
arent there still $1 houses for sale?
how many properties at auction arent sold each year?
i have not been paying attention, so depressing.

313WX brings up good points.
can your block take every 5th house being empty ?

[313WX]

my solution is to cut detroit up into seperate cities.
let that land go back to the state. let them take care of it.

do you think forclosure and auctions will work in detroit?
wayne county has been doing auctions for a while now.
arent there still $1 houses for sale?
how many properties at auction arent sold each year?
i have not been paying attention, so depressing.

313WX brings up good points.
can your block take every 5th house being empty ?

I completely agree with the bolded.

[Danny]

my solution is to cut detroit up into seperate cities.
let that land go back to the state. let them take care of it.

do you think forclosure and auctions will work in detroit?
wayne county has been doing auctions for a while now.
arent there still $1 houses for sale?
how many properties at auction arent sold each year?
i have not been paying attention, so depressing.

313WX brings up good points.
can your block take every 5th house being empty ?

Not going to happen! According the State Boundry Commission of 1948 [[ via The Charter Township Act.) once city or a village is incorporated. It can not be re-converted into sections villages or townships. Laws have to be changed for that to happen. Detroit must keep its regional borders for taxation purposes. That it why we have the regional authority to sought our water woes.

[Danny]

my solution is to cut detroit up into seperate cities.
let that land go back to the state. let them take care of it.

do you think forclosure and auctions will work in detroit?
wayne county has been doing auctions for a while now.
arent there still $1 houses for sale?
how many properties at auction arent sold each year?
i have not been paying attention, so depressing.

313WX brings up good points.
can your block take every 5th house being empty ?

Not going to happen! According the Michigan State Boundry Commission of 1948 [[ via The Charter Township Act.) once city or a village is incorporated, it can not be re-converted into sections villages or townships. Laws have to be changed for that to happen. Detroit must keep its regional borders for taxation purposes.

[gazhekwe]

I don't see how adding a whole bunch of borderline type houses to the county real estate rolls really helps, isn't there a problem dealing with the ones that are already there? Plus the cost of evictions will really add up. Unintended consequences will really hit hard.

As far as water being a human right, that may be so, but does that include water that has been purified and processed and personally delivered using money from ratepayers? What about shutting it all off and providing a water access point, say at the processing plant. Want water and can't or don't want to pay? Come and get it here.m Or just throw your bucket in the river and help yourself.

[Danny]

I
As far as water being a human right, that may be so, but does that include water that has been purified and processed and personally delivered using money from ratepayers? What about shutting it all off and providing a water access point, say at the processing plant. Want water and can't or don't want to pay? Come and get it here.m Or just throw your bucket in the river and help yourself.

Water is never a human right. It's a birthright for all living things on Earth. We can still get free water from rivers, lakes, ponds, underground and oceans. Only we have to do is filter out the toxic impurities and voila! clean drinkable water.

To getting city water you have to pay for their services. If you can't your bill your city water services get turned off plain and simple. No one in Detroit and suburbs just can't pay their bills and all the sudden we can't because of this, that and no job. Too bad! its going to happen while you living the free lunch line. I have to pay my bills, too. On time at the payment center. It's unfair to have some upside down courts and politics and welfare folks to say that quit turning off our water. Well you all brought your homestead and pay to have water and utility services turn on so keep on paying to the end.

[Willi]

Change the rules, expedite the deadbeats, revive the city with people that care.
That goes for the industrial commercial pricks as well who let stuff slide far too long.

[Shai_Hulud]

According to WDWOT, roughly 50% of the properties that made it to the auction this year were occupied. Apply that to this situation we're talking about 35,000 occupied homes that are going to get foreclosure notices.

If the water debacle is any indication, about half of those will pay or get on a payment plan once the hammer comes down. That means about 17,000 houses that have slumlords, squatters or someone who is truly unable to pay and may be headed to foreclosure.

[Chicago48]

According to WDWOT, roughly 50% of the properties that made it to the auction this year were occupied. Apply that to this situation we're talking about 35,000 occupied homes that are going to get foreclosure notices.

If the water debacle is any indication, about half of those will pay or get on a payment plan once the hammer comes down. That means about 17,000 houses that have slumlords, squatters or someone who is truly unable to pay and may be headed to foreclosure.

Time to build a brand new city. Start over with new boundaries. And new or rehabbed properties. Detroit cannot keep going like it did in the past.

[Willi]

Why would the taxpayers of the State of Michigan want to own the cut-up land ?
Isn't it easier just to put Detroit under State Control ?
The Michigan Land Bank is owned and operated by the 10 Million resident taxpayers

NOTICE REGARDING PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF DETROIT

Pursuant to Section 7.02 of the Second Amended and Restated Intergovernmental Agreement between the Michigan Land Bank Fast Track Authority [[MLBFTA) and the City of Detroit [[City) creating the Detroit Land Bank Authority [[DLBA), approved as Resolution #2013-16 by the Board of Directors of the MLBFTA at the Special Board Meeting held 12/19/2013, the MLBFTA are in the process of transferring all of its rights, title and interest to all real property it holds within the geographic limitations of the City to the DLBA.

During this transition period, MLBFTA will forward your information to the DLBA if the parcel is one which had been in the MLBFTA inventory prior to this transfer. Please send an e-mail to LandBank@michigan.gov with your contact information and the address and parcel number of the property in question. Subsequent to this transfer, you may contact the DLBA at [[313) 974-6869 if you are interested in acquiring a parcel in the City of Detroit.

[That Great Guy]

In 1995, we saved SMART with a small property tax. This is now 2014 and there is just no excuse why we can't do the same for water as we did for buses.

I'm sure a small property tax can pay for everyone's water. We all pay the same for SMART and we CAN all pay the same for water too.

[Gpwrangler]

In 1995, we saved SMART with a small property tax. This is now 2014 and there is just no excuse why we can't do the same for water as we did for buses.

I'm sure a small property tax can pay for everyone's water. We all pay the same for SMART and we CAN all pay the same for water too.

Good idea. Make sure I get a refund check since I pay for my own shit.

[DetroitPlanner]

In 1995, we saved SMART with a small property tax. This is now 2014 and there is just no excuse why we can't do the same for water as we did for buses.

I'm sure a small property tax can pay for everyone's water. We all pay the same for SMART and we CAN all pay the same for water too.

Do you even read the thread before you post? The topic is foreclosures and selling off homes.

[That Great Guy]

Do you even read the thread before you post? The topic is foreclosures and selling off homes.

A small property tax for all of Wayne, Oakland and Macomb Counties can and should pay for all foreclosures, selling off homes in the City of Detroit AND all water bills for all three counties.

We are all one City and we all need water, housing and transportation.

Taxes should be based on need and not large salaries and luxuries for the rich and tax breaks for casino's and robber barons in my opinion.

[Gpwrangler]

A small property tax for all of Wayne, Oakland and Macomb Counties can and should pay for all foreclosures, selling off homes in the City of Detroit AND all water bills for all three counties.

We are all one City and we all need water, housing and transportation.

Taxes should be based on need and not large salaries and luxuries for the rich and tax breaks for casino's and robber barons in my opinion.

Reminds me of some of the responses you get when you post a craigslist ad, containing your ad jumbled up. For instance the next response might quote this one and say, "a small tax in Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb would cover all Craigslist purchases for all of Detroit"

[That Great Guy]

Reminds me of some of the responses you get when you post a craigslist ad, containing your ad jumbled up. For instance the next response might quote this one and say, "a small tax in Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb would cover all Craigslist purchases for all of Detroit"

That would be Communism Yeah, I know many posters here are just that but if we want freedom than allowing this must be allowed.

[Willi]

Chart shows the MONTHLY water bills [[ it is mis-labeled as yearly ) across the country
Other cities have it much, much worse than Detroit, and you wonder how do they cope ?

Atlanta seems to be paying the real cost of infrastructure improvements in hard green cash

[That Great Guy]

Chart shows the MONTHLY water bills [[ it is mis-labeled as yearly ) across the country
Other cities have it much, much worse than Detroit, and you wonder how do they cope ?

Atlanta seems to be paying the real cost of infrastructure improvements in hard green cash

Even the deserts have more water than us.

[compn]

@corktownyuppie, great post.

your idea to have the city/county work with tax dodgers to keep people in their homes instead of foreclose on them would be cheaper to implement, generate more revenue-and be faster than a foreclosure/auction. it would be better for the city than adding to the homeless population and having more empty, scrapper and fire targets.

unfortunately , in 2009 during the housing apocalypse, we've seen that that option has gone out of the window. seems like the banks were all too happy to foreclose and sit on empty properties. as far as i can see into the future, it doesnt look like wayne county will attempt to do anything differently.

[compn]

how bout reverse mortgages? i know they are the worst things ever, but then so is a foreclosure.

[Cliffy]

I totally agree. People are more excited about some bar or restaurant opening up here with minimum wage jobs then say some factory.

[sumas]

I must say that the complete lack of empathy, sympathy and comprehension of underlying issues on this thread regarding water bills/shut off issues completely underwhelm me.

Nope just pretty much the usual whine that all Detroiters are dead beats. Whine/slam Detroit/whine/whine/whine. Those posts are just dead boring! Believe whatever you want.

It is complex but of course much easier to say Detroit is peopled with deadbeats. Why tax your brain. Too much fun instead to cast blame. I could write a screen play based on stupid un or ill informed opinions but damn, the title clueless is already taken.