Somewhere on Grand River in Rosedale Park area.
Somewhere on Grand River in Rosedale Park area.
Prediction: New massive Midtown store to replace the existing dwarf store.
^^^ Opps! Good point. Hows about Joy Rd and Grand River!
[QUOTE=NickCharles;453335]Does the joke involve the fact that there is no such intersection
True enough there is no Grand River/Hubble intersection, however there is, in fact, a Grand River/Hubbell intersection.
With subsidies and on-site DPD protection, the goodwill and PR they get trumps whatever risk of loss they could ever possibly incur. If the store can turn a profit, great, but not required. With a Starbucks and Meijer, Woodward & 8 Mile is all but assured. It would tap into Ferndale and white collar commuters who use Woodward, as well as Meijer shoppers who are craving organic staples, etc. Meijer doesn't stock.
I don't think Whole Foods wants to be located anywhere near Meijer.With subsidies and on-site DPD protection, the goodwill and PR they get trumps whatever risk of loss they could ever possibly incur. If the store can turn a profit, great, but not required. With a Starbucks and Meijer, Woodward & 8 Mile is all but assured. It would tap into Ferndale and white collar commuters who use Woodward, as well as Meijer shoppers who are craving organic staples, etc. Meijer doesn't stock.
Existing store becomes a Trader Joes, now that WF has proven that Detroit was underserved in this market segment. Current small WF is just about the right size for regular TJ.
Seeing that their store is doing fine in midtown, I think WF probably would like a more normal sized store now, with a full catering detachment -- which I understand forms a large part of their revenues.
btw, here's from their 2013 'letter to stakeholders':
[[emphasis added)WE ARE ACCELERATING OUR GROWTH.With our fourth consecutive year of increased new store openings, we are demonstrating that we can accelerate our growth in a culturally sustainable way. In the first quarter, we opened stores in three different countries, a company first! The six stores we purchased in the Boston area were all remodeled and re-opened by year end, helping to revitalize our brand in one of our oldest markets. In addition, we opened a store in downtown Detroit, providing fresh healthy food to an underserved community. We have similar stores planned for New
Orleans, Newark and Chicago.
About Papa Joe's-- I had read they abandoned plans for the Downtown location due to what turned out to be exorbitant cost, but this more recent release from their publicist seems to suggest the possibility is alive again-- http://goo.gl/JS6iA5
I don't know about that Midtown Whole Foods. Usually I walk in, shake my head and leave. Occasionally I'll grab something from the prepared foods area. They just don't stock many of the [[more basic, usually) items I'll occasionally pick up at their other locations.
Someone mentioned Meijer not offering organic apples. I'm quite sure they do, though it could be they're not at all locations.
I do agree that 8 & Woodward gateway to the northern suburbs would seem a logical location for Whole Foods. E Jefferson makes no sense to me. I'd don't think there's enough sustained demand from The Villages and as has been mentioned I don't think Grosse Pointers will shop in sufficient numbers at a west-of-Alter location-- not that they're that hungry for Whole Foods items at those prices anyway, I don't think.
I'd love to see Trader Joe's put a store in Midtown. The retail in that area has gotten so upscale it's really pricing out students, WSU clerical staff and the many non-professional hospital workers. I hope Bucharest moves ahead with their plans for the North End location, or better yet finds a spot a bit further south, for the same reason. I worry that pricing students out of the neighborhood will have a negative impact on the university's attractiveness to potential students.
Trader Joes could move into the former Ye Olde Butchers Shoppe locationAbout Papa Joe's-- I had read they abandoned plans for the Downtown location due to what turned out to be exorbitant cost, but this more recent release from their publicist seems to suggest the possibility is alive again-- http://goo.gl/JS6iA5
I don't know about that Midtown Whole Foods. Usually I walk in, shake my head and leave. Occasionally I'll grab something from the prepared foods area. They just don't stock many of the [[more basic, usually) items I'll occasionally pick up at their other locations.
Someone mentioned Meijer not offering organic apples. I'm quite sure they do, though it could be they're not at all locations.
I do agree that 8 & Woodward gateway to the northern suburbs would seem a logical location for Whole Foods. E Jefferson makes no sense to me. I'd don't think there's enough sustained demand from The Villages and as has been mentioned I don't think Grosse Pointers will shop in sufficient numbers at a west-of-Alter location-- not that they're that hungry for Whole Foods items at those prices anyway, I don't think.
I'd love to see Trader Joe's put a store in Midtown. The retail in that area has gotten so upscale it's really pricing out students, WSU clerical staff and the many non-professional hospital workers. I hope Bucharest moves ahead with their plans for the North End location, or better yet finds a spot a bit further south, for the same reason. I worry that pricing students out of the neighborhood will have a negative impact on the university's attractiveness to potential students.
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I don't think it would end up in Jefferson-Chalmers area. I do think though, a possibility is east jefferson a bit closer to downtown maybe somewhere near the joseph barry subdivision.
I disagree. The closer you move it to the Pointes, the better chance you have of success. You'll draw customers from those areas too. I have nothing against people from there, but most won't venture too far into the City.
Are you seriously concerned about another Whole foods Store opening in a city the size of Detroit? If you don't like them, don't go there. If they fail, so what. I can't understand why the people of Detroit are so negative about a private enterprise attempting to making a go of it in the city and succeeding or failing at their own expense. Oh no, someone attempted to add another business to the city and it failed or succeeded. I just can't quite understand the negativity of a city that needs new resources. I do find the negativity of a business that sees a potential opportunity to expand in a market that is somewhat devoid of natural foods [[although high end) somewhat shortsighted.
Great cities need diversity and options.
What are you talking about?Are you seriously concerned about another Whole foods Store opening in a city the size of Detroit? If you don't like them, don't go there. If they fail, so what. I can't understand why the people of Detroit are so negative about a private enterprise attempting to making a go of it in the city and succeeding or failing at their own expense. Oh no, someone attempted to add another business to the city and it failed or succeeded. I just can't quite understand the negativity of a city that needs new resources. I do find the negativity of a business that sees a potential opportunity to expand in a market that is somewhat devoid of natural foods [[although high end) somewhat shortsighted.
Great cities need diversity and options.
That's a point OG. HF is not stupid. They are not going to set up in an area where they will fail full out. And people have a choice, and would have more choice with more stores which is why I champion the idea of a Trader Joes.
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