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    Default Orleans Landing, Those condos on the riverfront by globe building, break ground soon

    Should break ground by labor day

    http://www.freep.com/article/2014040...ousing-project


    street scape, retail and residential, and 20% affordable housing... what can the naysayers point out this time?
    Last edited by SpartanDawg; April-08-14 at 02:37 PM.

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    They will point out that the property is too valuable to have only two story housing on it, and not something taller.

    Cue that one in 5,4,3......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg19 View Post
    They will point out that the property is too valuable to have only two story housing on it, and not something taller.

    Cue that one in 5,4,3......
    I like the idea.. fits in with the scale of the globe and the warehouses that were there....there is plenty of room elsewhere for high rises. here's hoping it doesn't morph into Harbor Town II... by that I mean condos in a gated community with a strip mall out front.

    Curbed has some more renderings.
    http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2...-labor-day.php

    Have to agree with one of the commenter's concerns... if the street side is the "back" of the unit [[as in no doors on the street/main entrance in the interior parking lot) is that an issue?
    Last edited by bailey; April-08-14 at 03:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    I like the idea.. fits in with the scale of the globe and the warehouses that were there....there is plenty of room elsewhere for high rises. here's hoping it doesn't morph into Harbor Town II... by that I mean condos in a gated community with a strip mall out front.

    Curbed has some more renderings.
    http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2...-labor-day.php

    Have to agree with one of the commenter's concerns... if the street side is the "back" of the unit [[as in no doors on the street/main entrance in the interior parking lot) is that an issue?
    Yea, I'll agree I'm fine with the design as well. I do like beautiful tall buildings, but I image that area of the riverfront to be clusters of buildings probably no more than 12-15 stories tall. I guess it's just hard to image a 50 story skyscraper over in that area; seems like it'd stick out like a sore thumb with nothing close in scale to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post

    Have to agree with one of the commenter's concerns... if the street side is the "back" of the unit [[as in no doors on the street/main entrance in the interior parking lot) is that an issue?
    That's not really going to make a difference in terms of pedestrian traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    Have to agree with one of the commenter's concerns... if the street side is the "back" of the unit [[as in no doors on the street/main entrance in the interior parking lot) is that an issue?
    Google Texas Doughnut. This type of development has the blessing of the new urbanists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg19 View Post
    They will point out that the property is too valuable to have only two story housing on it, and not something taller.

    Cue that one in 5,4,3......
    The east riverfront is not the STatler site.

    Nice strawman though.

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    It's not about naysaying. I've posted many things like this with high hopes, only to have those hopes dashed, like the expansion on top of the Book Caddy which was supposed to happen five years ago, or Papa Joe's going into the First National Building. So, I've learned to take these articles with cautious optimism. I'll believe it when the shovels go in the ground, because that's the way things go around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmike76 View Post
    It's not about naysaying. I've posted many things like this with high hopes, only to have those hopes dashed, like the expansion on top of the Book Caddy which was supposed to happen five years ago, or Papa Joe's going into the First National Building. So, I've learned to take these articles with cautious optimism. I'll believe it when the shovels go in the ground, because that's the way things go around here.
    In property development, the words I like to use are "moderated celebration". There are a hundred escalating obstacles between ground zero and a final project. It's obviously an accomplishment to have found a developer, gotten a design approved, etc.

    Will it get completed? Or even started? We don't know. But this is a big step and is cause for [[moderated) celebration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corktownyuppie View Post
    In property development, the words I like to use are "moderated celebration". There are a hundred escalating obstacles between ground zero and a final project. It's obviously an accomplishment to have found a developer, gotten a design approved, etc.

    Will it get completed? Or even started? We don't know. But this is a big step and is cause for [[moderated) celebration.
    'Moderated Celebration' - I love it. Nice choice of words.

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    Those are rentals, not condos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanDawg View Post
    Should break ground by labor day

    http://www.freep.com/article/2014040...ousing-project


    street scape, retail and residential, and 20% affordable housing... what can the naysayers point out this time?
    270 units of brand new housing? 20% affordable? Coffee shops for crying out loud!
    Cool, very cool.

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    Nice to hear that this project is still progressing. I like the mix of affordable/market rate units to allow a diversity of residents. The riverfront between downtown and Belle Isle could become a great area. And its filling in quite of bit of empty land.

    It would be nice to live right by Milliken Park as well as well as the Dequindre cut!
    Last edited by DetroiterOnTheWestCoast; April-08-14 at 08:22 PM.

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    Hey guys new renderings. Looks freaking awesome.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...fore-Labor-Day

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    Hey guys new renderings. Looks freaking awesome.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...fore-Labor-Day
    those are quite a bit different from the curbed and freep renderings.... seeing some 4 story buildings. So, what is the real plan? 2 or 4
    Last edited by bailey; April-09-14 at 01:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    those are quite a bit different from the curbed and freep renderings.... seeing some 4 story buildings. So, what is the real plan? 2 or 4
    The Detnews one should be the current plan. There was a post on Model D's website from the architects [[Hamilton Anderson Associates) some time ago saying they wanted the buildings to look more industrial. Plus the article says that these renderings were released on Tuesday so obviously they're the most up to date ones.

    I think Freep and Curbed just has some lazy reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    The Detnews one should be the current plan. There was a post on Model D's website from the architects [[Hamilton Anderson Associates) some time ago saying they wanted the buildings to look more industrial. Plus the article says that these renderings were released on Tuesday so obviously they're the most up to date ones.

    I think Freep and Curbed just has some lazy reporting.
    I'm glad to hear Hamilton Anderson is doing this. The two principals come from Schervish, Vogel, Merz who, among other things, designed Chene Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    The Detnews one should be the current plan. There was a post on Model D's website from the architects [[Hamilton Anderson Associates) some time ago saying they wanted the buildings to look more industrial. Plus the article says that these renderings were released on Tuesday so obviously they're the most up to date ones.

    I think Freep and Curbed just has some lazy reporting.
    The more industrial look is a really great fit for that area. I hope that's what really gets constructed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    The Detnews one should be the current plan. There was a post on Model D's website from the architects [[Hamilton Anderson Associates) some time ago saying they wanted the buildings to look more industrial. Plus the article says that these renderings were released on Tuesday so obviously they're the most up to date ones.
    I hope so. I think the varying 2-4 story buildings will look better aesthetically as opposed to all 2 story structures.

    My questions is what is going to be done with the land north of Atwater south of Franklin next to this development? Anyone know who owns that land? City of Detroit perhaps or GM? Seems like that's going to be some very prime real estate all of a sudden, and it would really complete the area if something was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg19 View Post
    I hope so. I think the varying 2-4 story buildings will look better aesthetically as opposed to all 2 story structures.

    My questions is what is going to be done with the land north of Atwater south of Franklin next to this development? Anyone know who owns that land? City of Detroit perhaps or GM? Seems like that's going to be some very prime real estate all of a sudden, and it would really complete the area if something was there.
    GM owns the land from the Ren Cen to Rivard Street. There are a few websites showing what GM has/had planned for the area, but of course, the plans were made prior to the recession. Whether or not these plans are still possible or dead completely is unknown. All companies involved in the project are still operating [[GM, Hines, and Built Form) but obviously the economy has had a great impact on whatever was planned.

    http://www.renshorecondos.com/index.html
    http://www.built-form.net/work/mixed...use/index.html
    http://www.hines.com/press/releases/6-20-07.aspx

    For the land between Rivard and Riopelle Street, McCormack Baron Salazar has a planned phase 2 with possible high rises along Atwater Street. It just depends on whether the economy picks up so he can get financing for it.
    Last edited by animatedmartian; April-09-14 at 05:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    Hey guys new renderings. Looks freaking awesome.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...fore-Labor-Day
    I agree, this is nice.

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    I want one

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    Is this the development project that Jerome Bettis was involved in? If so, is he still involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyles View Post
    Is this the development project that Jerome Bettis was involved in? If so, is he still involved?
    I thought that was the Uniroyal site?

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    Yea he's with the Uniroyal site project. This is something totally separate.

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