Violence and robberies continue at Detroit gas stations

**Zacha341** · April-07-14, 06:02 AM

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

**corktownyuppie** · April-07-14, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

The violence at gas stations is totally out of control. I have no answers, but this is not a sustainable outcome. I don't know whether it's private security, community cooperative policing of some kind, or shutting down gas stations. This can't continue.

I'm a little skeptical of the report of a "mob" killing, when it appears that there were only 2 attackers.

But regardless.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 06:30 AM

Treat Detroit like the Mohave Desert. Make sure you have enough gas to get across before entering [[or use the I-275/I-696 bypass).

**Meddle** · April-07-14, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hermod

Treat Detroit like the Mohave Desert. Make sure you have enough gas to get across before entering [[or use the I-275/I-696 bypass).

When people ask me about traveling between somewhere south and upper Michigan, I tell them to use US-23/I-475 [[Toledo, Ann Arbor/Fenton). Gets them the same place without going anywhere near town.

Same thing for travel to Canada. I send them via I-69 through Port Huron.

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

My God! Have people gone nuts? I can't tell you how bad I feel for the victims.

**MikeM** · April-07-14, 06:55 AM

Someone didn't get the memo.

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by MikeM

Someone didn't get the memo.

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**getmoore** · April-07-14, 08:15 AM

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

**MikeM** · April-07-14, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by getmoore

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

I don't know about other cities but the suburbs definitely do.

**ThosWolfe** · April-07-14, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by getmoore

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

East St Louis, IL? In the movies anyway. 1st Chevy Chase Holiday movie. They stopped for gas in St Louis, turns out they were in EAST St Louis. Got robbed, car stripped...

**Bham1982** · April-07-14, 08:27 AM

I guess this is why gas is cheaper in Detroit?

I don't care the savings; will never, ever stop for gas in Detroit. Too many crazy stories [[and not just crime stories, but just weird anecdotes about people approaching you with odd stories, beggars, and nonresponsive station clerks, also you constantly hear claims that they dilute the gas in the city with other additives).

**Bill Simpson** · April-07-14, 08:56 AM

The escorts hang around the gas stations too. That's why a lot of white men go to the city. When the escort's handler can't sell enough candy, or runs out, everyone gets uptight and violence occurs.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

I guess this is why gas is cheaper in Detroit?

I don't care the savings; will never, ever stop for gas in Detroit. Too many crazy stories [[and not just crime stories, but just weird anecdotes about people approaching you with odd stories, beggars, and nonresponsive station clerks, also you constantly hear claims that they dilute the gas in the city with other additives).

The panhandlers, people wanting you to fill up their tank, and sob stories are pretty much universal except for really country gas stations.

**Danny** · April-07-14, 09:33 AM

A typical Detroit black thing. A Ham's curse!

**Zacha341** · April-07-14, 09:40 PM

Umm, eh-what!?

Danny, you're digging a deep hole you're gonna be obliged to fall [[jump) in on that one.

Originally Posted by Danny

A typical Detroit black thing. A Ham's curse!

**Danny** · April-08-14, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Umm, eh-what!?

Danny, you're digging a deep hole you're gonna be obliged to fall [[jump) in on that one.

It's all in the Bible. African people, Cush, Ethiopians all the way down to Zulus and Shabazz are Hamitic people. If you have read your Bible. Ham saw Noah drunk and in the stupor state. Noah curse Ham's Son Canaan for invading his privacy. So Canaan and his descendants will be living in cursed lives. Every tribe of Canaan to the various African peoples will be bullied and tortured by other races. Leading to this point that they will be oppressed. Today Hamitic descendants will be ticked off on anything that society throws at them. It's in our their nature. The black thing will continue until society demands their respect.

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hermod

The panhandlers, people wanting you to fill up their tank, and sob stories are pretty much universal except for really country gas stations.

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

OK, we are both being annecdotal, but I do get hassled in suburbia [[maybe not as aggressively) for loose change, help me fill my tank, or my daughter is sick. All it needs is that the gas station is within walking distance of where the guy normally hangs out with his cardboard sign [[and most of the guys that hassle me are white).

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hermod

OK, we are both being annecdotal, but I do get hassled in suburbia [[maybe not as aggressively) for loose change, help me fill my tank, or my daughter is sick. All it needs is that the gas station is within walking distance of where the guy normally hangs out with his cardboard sign [[and most of the guys that hassle me are white).

Talk about equality....

When I worked in Downtown Detroit for years, years ago, most of the people that "spare changed" you, 24-7, were white. [[not that there's anything wrong with it) We both must work in different 'burbs, that's all. I just don't get why station owners let this continue.

**aj3647** · April-09-14, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Hermod

OK, we are both being annecdotal, but I do get hassled in suburbia [[maybe not as aggressively) for loose change, help me fill my tank, or my daughter is sick. All it needs is that the gas station is within walking distance of where the guy normally hangs out with his cardboard sign [[and most of the guys that hassle me are white).

Pretty common in Ann Arbor too. It's really grating when it's some 23-year old able-bodied white kid hitting me up for money. Seriously? Some fucking Townie burnout whose parents are probably upper-middle class UofM professors who kicked him out of the house because he refused to get a job or go to school or do anything productive with his time other than smoke pot with his burnout loser friends.

I'd take Detroit any day over Ann Arbor when it comes to being solicited for money on the street. Every 20 feet in downtown Ann Arbor is a panhandler, especially in the summertime. In the summer we get inundated with an extra batch of white hippie counterculture "travelers" who just move about the country and make money by panhandling.

**softailrider** · April-07-14, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

Doubt it, they have a captive audience. Gas stations, crappy party stores, no transportation, need food - you do the math.

**Zacha341** · April-07-14, 10:01 PM

I have a hard and fast rule: if I see folks standing about and ANY gas station: I keep driving. I have reported stations that chronically have people loitering around. I know some stations double as mini-marts, but for the most part I expect people to be about gassing their cars and keeping it moving.

I had my wallet gone thru on a work site -- ID and Debit card taken [[I don't carry much on me) and the perpetrators went straight to the shade-tree gas stations to commit fraud. Having my zip code they ran about three 'pump-your-gas-for-a-deal' successes, before my bank texted me re. the suspicious activity, freezing the card.

The perps went to NINE east side gas stations plying my debit card by then dead and useless.

I've had a few creeps try to sell me gas from stolen debit card years back. I now avoid stations with folks hanging about with nonsense and scams.

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time...

**Honky Tonk** · April-08-14, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

I have a hard and fast rule, it I see folks standing about and ANY gas station: I keep driving. I have reported stations that chronically have folks loitering around. I know some stations double as mini-marts, but for the most part I expect people to be about gassing their cars and keeping it moving.

I had my wallet gone thru on a work site -- ID and Debit card only taken [[I don't carry much on me) and the perpetrators went straight to the shade-tree gas stations to commit fraud. Having my zip code they ran about three 'pump-your-gas-for-a-deal' successes, before my bank texted me re. the suspicious activity, freezing the card.

The perps went to NINE east side gas stations plying my debit card by then dead and useless.

I've had a few creeps try to sell me gas from stolen debit card years back. I now avoid stations with folks hanging about with nonsense and scams.

I take it you're not looking for "a good time"

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**Zacha341** · April-07-14, 02:32 PM

Actually gas is cheaper the closer you get to the gasoline/ oil refineries which are in the southwest area/ subs. I work in Dearborn and gas is a nickle or so cheaper always, down river further south is is cheaper.

I do use a gas station in the D on Woodward but they have a bouncer/ security person [[retired cop perhaps) who is 'open' carry. I've gotten to know him so he comes out and watches as I an other women pump gas as he can. Otherwise he watches thru the window and door.

Originally Posted by Bham1982

I guess this is why gas is cheaper in Detroit?

I don't care the savings; will never, ever stop for gas in Detroit. Too many crazy stories [[and not just crime stories, but just weird anecdotes about people approaching you with odd stories, beggars, and nonresponsive station clerks, also you constantly hear claims that they dilute the gas in the city with other additives).

**NoHeartAnthony** · April-08-14, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Actually gas is cheaper the closer you get to the gasoline/ oil refineries which are in the southwest area/ subs. I work in Dearborn and gas is a nickle or so cheaper always, down river further south is is cheaper.

I do use a gas station in the D on Woodward but they have a bouncer/ security person [[retired cop perhaps) who is 'open' carry. I've gotten to know him so he comes out and watches as I an other women pump gas as he can. Otherwise he watches thru the window and door.

Yes. The Mobil on Woodward/Forest almost always has a security guard or a cop there.