Are Coney Dogs NOT unique to Detroit?

**illwill** · March-31-14, 11:29 AM

41 7th St E
Saint Paul, MN 55101Downtown St. Paul
http://www.yelp.com/biz/gopher-bar-saint-paul

**Detroitnerd** · March-31-14, 11:36 AM

There are some coney joints across the Midwest, it seems, but nothing on the scale of what there is in the Detroit-Flint-K'zoo-Jackson area.

They are served in Quebec, I hear, though they go by the name "Hot Michigan" out there.

An interesting theory cropped up that the reason these chili-mustard-onion frankfurters were called "Coney Island hot dogs" was because a German name like "frankfurter" would have been discouraged during the 1910-1920 period when German names were vilified. Praise the lord and pass the freedom fries ...

**SDCC** · March-31-14, 11:47 AM

A tad dated but fun article on Detroit Coney Dogs and other Detroit favorites in our local San Diego newspaper...

http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2011/Ap...-go-hollywood/

**rb336** · March-31-14, 01:19 PM

The chili dogs are common. Places that call them coneys are usually started by transplanted Detroiters, and the chili used on a real coney is different from what you get on a chili dog

**Ltdave** · March-31-14, 03:49 PM

i worked with a transplanted guy from syracuse and HE claimed they were pronounced COONey Dogs...

the hot dog they used was a White Hot [[vs Red hot) and he brought some from NY one time. they LOOKED nasty but i didnt have the beans to taste one...

**pgn421** · March-31-14, 04:40 PM

The cooney dogs in Syracuse are made from pork and veal,that is why they are white in color

**illwill** · March-31-14, 05:52 PM

I originally saw this place on twitter. Apparently they've been in Minnesota for a VERY long time. Coney's are a staple there, and the Gopher Liquor store and Coney Island is generations old.

But I still would assume the Coney was started in Detroit.

**rb336** · March-31-14, 08:27 PM

Detroit, Jackson...the Jackson origin comes from a guy who opened a restaurant and claimed to have sold them two years before American, there is little evidence to back that claim, but it seems far less likely that something would go from a smallish town to a major city, especially since the pattern of immigration usually starts in the region's largest city and spreads from there

**old guy** · April-01-14, 02:06 AM

I was really skeptical about Coney Dogs having an origin or being originally or a Detroit thing. Probably because of Coney Island. But...
Coney Island hot dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and..Todoroff's® Original Coney Island — Treasure The Taste !

**old guy** · April-01-14, 02:23 AM

Don't hate me, because I do love chili dogs. But I am a big fan of Chicago Red Hots because I love sport peppers.

**gumby** · April-01-14, 02:17 PM

Doesn't matter where Coney's got their start Flint Style is the best. With their delicious Koegel's Vienna and meaty sauce [[no beans) by far the best.

Let the hatred of me begin. lol.

Originally Posted by old guy

I was really skeptical about Coney Dogs having an origin or being originally or a Detroit thing. Probably because of Coney Island. But...
Coney Island hot dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and..Todoroff's® Original Coney Island — Treasure The Taste !

**DetroitPlanner** · April-01-14, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by gumby

Let the hatred of me begin. lol.

With your wee beady eyes and your secret spices that make you crave these fortnightly?

**rb336** · April-07-14, 10:52 PM

what is an Italian beef?

**Lombaowski** · April-07-14, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

what is an Italian beef?

It's something that is between a steak sandwich and a Philly Cheese Steak, only particular to Chicago.

**chicagoforlife** · April-08-14, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by rb336

what is an Italian beef?

It's sort of like like a Philly Cheesesteak but the Italian Beef is thin slices of seasoned roast beef served on a long italian roll. You can get the sandwiched dipped which means they dip everything including the bread in au jus. They are extremely popular here in the Chicago area but outside of Chicago they are difficult to find. When you're ordering one and want it dipped with sport peppers you just tell them what size you want and tell them to dip it with sport peppers. There is a stance that you stand at while eating one it was shown at Al's Beef, you stand at the table keeping your feet a few feet back from the table and your feet spread apart, then you put your elbows on the table while bent into the table to eat one, that's so you'll make a mess on the floor instead of yourself.

**drjeff** · April-02-14, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by old guy

I was really skeptical about Coney Dogs having an origin or being originally or a Detroit thing. Probably because of Coney Island. But...
Coney Island hot dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and..Todoroff's® Original Coney Island — Treasure The Taste !

I grew up in Jackson. Lafayette beats the pants off Todoroff's. The Jackson style is just not as good, and I severely doubt they were really the first Coney Dog place. BTW, Todoroff's is also no longer in business, despite the active website.

**Trumpeteer** · April-02-14, 05:00 PM

Lafayette was 1st then the Keros brother broke off and opened American next door.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ised-city.html

**ALPOE** · April-11-14, 07:44 PM

Give Sal's Chicago Classic a try in Trenton on West road,,,,they have the real deal Chicago Beef and Classic Chicago Dogs see link,,,,, http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/19/17656...lassic-Trenton

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**old guy** · April-01-14, 02:19 AM

American Coney Dogs opened in 1917.American Coney Island
Three years later.

Lafayette opened in 1914.

**Detroitnerd** · April-01-14, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by old guy

American Coney Dogs opened in 1917.American Coney Island
Three years later.

Lafayette opened in 1914.

Actually, I believe the reverse is true. But I thought that was the case for a long time.

**rb336** · April-01-14, 07:08 AM

I love chicago dogs, coneys, NYC dogs deep-fried bacon and cheese dogs,

**Benedict** · April-01-14, 10:16 AM

Bad enough being a Detroiter - and a Lions fan! - trapped here in Chicago, but since Leo's closed, I cannot find a proper coney anywhere...

**rb336** · April-01-14, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Benedict

Bad enough being a Detroiter - and a Lions fan! - trapped here in Chicago, but since Leo's closed, I cannot find a proper coney anywhere...

Hot Doug's dogs could work, I don't know what their chili is like. They have a good snap. and the duck fat fries are heaven in a heart attack

**Benedict** · April-01-14, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by rb336

Hot Doug's dogs could work, I don't know what their chili is like. They have a good snap. and the duck fat fries are heaven in a heart attack

Hey, rb336 - that place is less than a quarter mile from where I now sit [[at work). Brought my lunch today, but will try and get there in the next couple of day. Thanks!

**rb336** · April-01-14, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Benedict

Hey, rb336 - that place is less than a quarter mile from where I now sit [[at work). Brought my lunch today, but will try and get there in the next couple of day. Thanks!

I think the duck fat fries are only certain days