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    ccbatson Guest

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    I actually understand you better now...I don't agree, and still highly recommend these references [[they are highly secular/atheistic, BTW), but I understand.

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    yeah the juxtaposition of promoting capitalism in a supposedly Christian-based country [[at least the legalistic Xtians say that) is too much for THIS critical thinker to bear.


    It also encourages other bad behavior...especially if unchecked [[thanks for the clarification, 'ej) and ALL the negatives greatly magnified by the corporate bend we've allowed this past century.



    IF companies were run by individuals liable for what the firm does, and those individuals could be counted on to make ethical and moral choices with their capital...and pay their workers a healthy wage [[if not include them in the ownership of the company, sharing the wealth)...then perhaps I could take the pro side...but the American version of capitalism has degraded so poorly I don't think it will survive.

    As it sits today, I don't think it should. It is too big, so it should fail.

    But they will start another war instead...

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    That is the same article I linked to in #8!

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    Gannon et al - PLEASE dont feed the troll here, unless he has something say about the topic.

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    Detroitej72 - that info is quite interesting/disturbing - clouds up in the top of the atmosphere, wtf ?

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    Jimaz - HAARP is able to focus all that radio power on a single point into the magnetosphere. Its something like 800,000 AM radio sations all broadcasting their airwaves full power at a single house. Thats why HAARP would violate the ABM treaty if it were government and not private, because in theory it should be able to knock ANYTHING out of the sky.

    But thats if you believe its private and not governmental. It is on Federal property surrounded by a National park. [[just like Montauk where Teslas underground lab was/is - also the original location of his radar dish. ) Not exactly private digs.

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    Et Tu Detroitej'?

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    Yeah, they sold this and the so-called Active Denial System...the portable version on the BROAD beam low-powered application.

    Where it doesn't immediately kill...we've seen the effects of high-power testing...it turns mammalian brains into OATMEAL.


    Probably doesn't feel too different than Jimaz's radar incident, until the resonances build and your head pops. The cranial cavity is a perfect gathering dish if you are facing this beam...and for some unfortunate whales and dolphins swimming through an ocean test area, it apparently has a similar effect even if you're NOT facing it!


    Ugh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Jimaz - HAARP is able to focus all that radio power on a single point into the magnetosphere. Its something like 800,000 AM radio sations all broadcasting their airwaves full power at a single house. Thats why HAARP would violate the ABM treaty if it were government and not private, because in theory it should be able to knock ANYTHING out of the sky.

    But thats if you believe its private and not governmental. It is on Federal property surrounded by a National park. [[just like Montauk where Teslas underground lab was/is - also the original location of his radar dish. ) Not exactly private digs.
    Have you ever been to Montauk? I doubt it because if you had you wouldn't believe such stupidity.
    By the way, Tesla facility was in Shoreham/Wading River, not Montauk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    Yeah, they sold this and the so-called Active Denial System...the portable version on the BROAD beam low-powered application.

    Where it doesn't immediately kill...we've seen the effects of high-power testing...it turns mammalian brains into OATMEAL.


    ...

    Ugh...
    Is that what happened, John? Well that explains a lot.

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    Quote: "Have you ever been to Montauk? I doubt it because if you had you wouldn't believe such stupidity."

    Aww man.. I was learning so much on this thread. The cranium being a good signal collector and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Jimaz - HAARP is able to focus all that radio power on a single point into the magnetosphere. Its something like 800,000 AM radio sations all broadcasting their airwaves full power at a single house.
    oh,oh Now I know why I shouldn't have let the Census lady GPS my front door... but she seemed so nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Detroitej72 - that info is quite interesting/disturbing - clouds up in the top of the atmosphere, wtf ?
    I've often wondered about them, who knows for sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    Et Tu Detroitej'?
    I always keep an open mind because I have little faith in our leaders and know they consider us all to be lab rats to test things on.

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    American capitalism's degradation is toward the socialist side of a mixed economy...and yes, this is a sad turn of events in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    American capitalism's degradation is toward the socialist side of a mixed economy...and yes, this is a sad turn of events in the wrong direction.
    Our government has a history of using the population as lab rats. Don't believe me? Ask the black farmers who were deliberately infected with syphilis in the 1950's, during the wonderful "conservative period" of American History.

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    Have I ever been to Montauk ?

    Well that is where Tesla had the Wardenclyffe Tower, that is my only point. Having been there or not is not relevant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    American capitalism's degradation is toward the socialist side of a mixed economy...and yes, this is a sad turn of events in the wrong direction.
    Hey - what the hell does this have to do with the topic ?

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    But it DID give them a launchpad for a personal attack, M.


    And it was a huge sphere radiator, not a dish!


    Cheers, I've been on a day-long quest to learn about brainwaves, after reading that one piece. Unfortunately, he got a little of it wrong...but overall it is quite good. Found some really GREAT stuff on what goes on harmonically within our noggins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauser View Post
    Have I ever been to Montauk ?

    Well that is where Tesla had the Wardenclyffe Tower, that is my only point. Having been there or not is not relevant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower
    As I have come to expect, you have no idea what you are talking about. I posted above that the proposed tower was in Shoreham, New York, not Montauk. That is like saying the tower was in St Clair Shores when it was in fact in Flint. In addition, your statement that the tower is there is also bogus, the tower was never built. In case you guys have forgotten, facts matter.

    You are confusing your silly conspiracy theories. The "Montauk Project" is what I assume you are thinking of. A scam created by a closeted gay man so that he could masturbate young men. Please read the Esquire article exposing this ridiculous story. I am sure that you will enjoy yourself with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    But it DID give them a launchpad for a personal attack, M.


    And it was a huge sphere radiator, not a dish!


    Cheers, I've been on a day-long quest to learn about brainwaves, after reading that one piece. Unfortunately, he got a little of it wrong...but overall it is quite good. Found some really GREAT stuff on what goes on harmonically within our noggins!
    Milk and brown sugar on that oatmeal, John?

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    Quote: "The "Montauk Project" is what I assume you are thinking of. A scam created by a closeted gay man so that he could masturbate young men. Please read the Esquire article exposing"

    Man, that was an abrupt change of direction, a few G's at least..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    Quote: "The "Montauk Project" is what I assume you are thinking of. A scam created by a closeted gay man so that he could masturbate young men. Please read the Esquire article exposing"

    Man, that was an abrupt change of direction, a few G's at least..
    I know, it's a result of all the air show activity lately. I am assuming [[ass - of- u- me) that in his confusion Mauser is combining the Montauk project myth with the Haarp/Tesla/Chemtrails mish mash that is already rolling around in his head.

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    So long as we are babbling about Montauk, how about the Montauk Monster ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster

    What the hell is THAT ? lol

    Maybe an escaped experiment from Plum Island ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Island

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