Detroit Public Transportation: 2014 and beyond.

[Detroitnerd]

The two are not mutually exclusive.

We did focus too much on automobiles. We need to include pedestrians and public transit in our future. That doesn't mean we should stop maintenance and improvements to roads.

Moderation in all things.

Nobody is saying stop maintenance to roads. What many are saying is that the "improvement" is unnecessary, expensive and, contrary to your first sentence, diametrically opposed to the mobility of pedestrians and cyclists.

You know what I hate these days more than anything else? Glibness. What you posted is precisely the kind of glib nonsense that infuriates me. You propose "moderation" even as you apparently line up behind a plan costing hundreds of millions of dollars that would mean some rather extreme changes.

Like, whatever, I'm going to say one thing and totally mean another and expect everybody to take me very seriously...

Pfftttt...

[professorscott]

Nobody is saying stop maintenance to roads. What many are saying is that the "improvement" is unnecessary, expensive and, contrary to your first sentence, diametrically opposed to the mobility of pedestrians and cyclists.

Spot on. I agree that a lot of the highways and bridges are in bad shape and ought to be repaired and maintained, and I have no problem with money spent on that. It's the widening that is unnecessary and a bad misuse of money. And, as 'nerd points out, a wider freeway is bad for everybody except the motorists using the freeway... and only good for them for a short time, if at all.

Meanwhile, while this is happening, nobody could come up with a couple million dollars so John Hertel could hire a fucking staff.

[That Great Guy]

Meanwhile, while this is happening, nobody could come up with a couple million dollars so John Hertel could hire a fucking staff.

Maybe he should Get SMART and oppose the freeways in their present form ?