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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    or it's someone on the inside. I mean at some point that has to be a question right? Either it's an inside job or someone with some pretty intimate knowledge of what is going on there.
    So you think its somebody that hates the Heidleberg project so much that they would join the team, promote the cause, paint houses with children all to start a string of house fires? .....sounds like a good CSI episode to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehv313 View Post
    So you think its somebody that hates the Heidleberg project so much that they would join the team, promote the cause, paint houses with children all to start a string of house fires? .....sounds like a good CSI episode to me.
    No, I'm saying that someone involved in the project might have decided the project didn't have enough attention/needed a new angle.

    nothing pumps up donations like a few acts of malicious vandalism.

    OR, it's a neighbor..or someone who was involved with the project...who has an axe to grind and knows when and how they can get away with firebombing a house.
    Last edited by bailey; December-09-13 at 11:49 AM.

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    In functioning cities with decent services and normal citizens, entire blocks don't get leveled in a month.

    Besides that, maybe it's time to let the HP as we know it go anyway. There is other public art to be had. Whenever God closes a door, he opens a dress, or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poobert View Post
    In functioning cities with decent services and normal citizens, entire blocks don't get leveled in a month.
    ...well, sure, but entire blocks don't become "art projects" either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    No, I'm saying that someone involved in the project might have decided the project didn't have enough attention/needed a new angle.

    nothing pumps up donations like a few acts of malicious vandalism.

    OR, it's a neighbor..or someone who was involved with the project...who has an axe to grind and knows when and how they can get away with firebombing a house.
    It seems clear that whoever is doing this is very accomplished both in arson and stealth. The properties are wiped out and the bad guys get away.

    I can't see where members of the project would be involved nor how destruction of prominent attractions of the project like the doll house and Soul House would benefit the project. Sympathy dollars are only a short term gain. The long term benefits from foundation support and arts world recognition are where the real money and longevity lie.

    So I go with the ax to grind argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    It seems clear that whoever is doing this is very accomplished both in arson and stealth. The properties are wiped out and the bad guys get away.
    Is it really that hard to torch an abandoned house in Detroit and not get caught?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bailey View Post
    Is it really that hard to torch an abandoned house in Detroit and not get caught?
    Probably not. But this isn't just any abandoned little house in the urban prairie of Detroit. It is in a high profile situation where allegedly extra vigilance is in place. So we have to award points for stealth in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    Probably not. But this isn't just any abandoned little house in the urban prairie of Detroit. It is in a high profile situation where allegedly extra vigilance is in place. So we have to award points for stealth in this case.
    I'm not really arguing with you..but "extra vigilance" is what? a rent a cop making a few passes before they ran out of money to pay for it? which is an odd claim for them to make as they raised over 50k specifically for security a month? two months? ago. Per the Heidleberg's website, they did manage to put the camera INSIDE the house but, shockingly, the camera and the recording was destroyed.

    I don't think it takes some master firebug to accomplish this. I'm still betting it's someone in the neighborhood [[whats left of it) that is tired of all the "outsiders" gawking at the "art environment". Or it's someone involved in the project that was slighted in some fashion....perhaps they weren't invited to Switzerland?

    End of the day it's still Detroit where the Chief of Police makes statements to the press encouraging the residential populace to go ahead and shoot at that perp if they feel threatened as the police won't be there anytime soon.

    So, here's how you solve this. Sit in one of the remaining houses every night with a weapon and just shoot the next person to even slow down out front of it at night. Clearly the Chief isn't going to prosecute [[how could you NOT be in fear of your life or GBH? 5 other places were burned down...) and you've sent the message that it's no longer a soft target.
    Last edited by bailey; March-10-14 at 08:41 AM.

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