MIDTOWN: Woman held captive nearly two hours, raped and robbed of $15

**Zacha341** · September-06-13, 06:13 AM

Woman held captive nearly two hours, raped and robbed of $15

The article omits that this is the second rape of a woman in midtown. And the assailants are getting younger. I was approached at a gas station on Woodward a few blocks outside of midtown while pumping gas. The gas station security/ bouncer responded and he ran off [[which is one of the reasons I will go to this station).

DETROIT, Mich. [[WJBK) - Police are looking for a man believed to have held a 27-year-old captive for nearly two hours. During that time he's believed to have sexually assaulted her twice. Police also believe he took her to five ATMs, hoping to get cash.

The whole ordeal finally ended when the suspect took her to Marcus Market on Prentiss Street. Police believe his intention was for her to buy something and get some cash back for him, but the suspect took off and the victim got help.

In the end, the suspect made off with only $15.

But this promising neighborhood of Midtown feels they were robbed of a whole lot more.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23...#ixzz2e6sFK2aJ

**sumas** · September-06-13, 07:52 AM

Zacha, please send me a pm with email address since you seem simpatico. I dislike putting up too much personal info on the internet.

I will say I was abducted and repeatedly raped at age 19. I blame Detroit Police as much as my abductors. I am 59 now and that violation of my personal body/space has haunted me my whole life. Sumas

**Lily** · September-06-13, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by sumas

Zacha, please send me a pm with email address since you seem simpatico. I dislike putting up too much personal info on the internet.

I will say I was abducted and repeatedly raped at age 19. I blame Detroit Police as much as my abductors. I am 59 now and that violation of my personal body/space has haunted me my whole life. Sumas

And it always will. There are some things that just won't/can't go away. No matter what you do.

lily

**sumas** · September-07-13, 02:25 AM

I went to WSU in the seventies, they built a parking structure and students [[women) were attacked almost daily back then. I always parked on the street and got lots of parking tickets but I felt safer. I got lucky, the city converted to a computer system and didn't want to invest the effort to log old tickets so I skated on that. I still distrust parking structures to this day.

**sumas** · September-07-13, 04:04 AM

I sent Zacha a long email which it appears didn't transmit. Still feel better for writing about an ancient incident. Sometimes it is good to explore, re-visit or discuss life events.

Rape is a horror that never leaves one. My heart goes out to every victim because I know first hand.

I am not embarrassed to say I was a rape/abduction victim, the burden of guilt is on the assailants. I rarely speak of this, mostly because I don't want pity or to be viewed as a victim. Strangely, people are uncomfortable around this dialogue, blame does go to the victim since it makes folk uncomfortable. Trust me I know this first hand. I rarely talk about this but sometimes women need to speak out.

Thank you Zacha for reaching out. I really did send you a detailed account but it did not seem to transmit. All things considered, you got spared a tragedy in my life.

**Zacha341** · September-07-13, 05:44 AM

I resent you my contact info Sumas. Not sure why what you sent me did not go thru. Please try again.

I've not been raped, but I did have a young man forcibly and painfully grab me in the chest when I was a teen to attempt to take my bicycle. I kept my one leg entwined in the frame of the bike and refused to give it up to the thief. He finally relented and ran off. He was someone I knew which is why I stopped to talk to him. I often wonder what other violence he went on to do.

Violence and rape is real and so many women are silent. We must be vigilant to keep safe. And know I don't like dark parking structures.

Originally Posted by sumas

I sent Zacha a long email which it appears didn't transmit. Still feel better for writing about an ancient incident. Sometimes it is good to explore, re-visit or discuss life events.

**sumas** · September-07-13, 04:14 AM

Forgot to say thank you to Lily too for your empathy. Some things will always be with you. Personally, all convicted rapists should have their dicks cut off. They have no clue the damage they do to a woman's heart, mind and soul and thus deserve no mercy.

**Zacha341** · September-07-13, 06:04 AM

Well I'd say some of these rapists are going to get some serious 'push-back', to say the least as more women have CPLs, go to the range regularly, and to know what to do if so approached. A small canister of pepper spray is an option as well.

Originally Posted by sumas

Forgot to say thank you to Lily too for your empathy. Some things will always be with you. Personally, all convicted rapists should have their dicks cut off. They have no clue the damage they do to a woman's heart, mind and soul and thus deserve no mercy.

**EASTSIDE CAT 67-83** · September-06-13, 07:53 AM

This animal has changed this woman's sense of security and well being for the rest of her life, when they catch this POS and they will catch him....they should confiscate his human card, give him a parachute with little or no instruction on its use and drop him in the middle of the arctic tundra. Can't wait to see his rap sheet and the name of the last judge that let him out of his cage. And Mid-town is making a come back????

**Chicago48** · September-06-13, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Woman held captive nearly two hours, raped and robbed of $15

The article omits that this is the second rape of a woman in midtown. And the assailants are getting younger. I was approached at a gas station on Woodward a few blocks outside of midtown while pumping gas. The gas station security/ bouncer responded and he ran off [[which is one of the reasons I will go to this station).

DETROIT, Mich. [[WJBK) - Police are looking for a man believed to have held a 27-year-old captive for nearly two hours. During that time he's believed to have sexually assaulted her twice. Police also believe he took her to five ATMs, hoping to get cash.

The whole ordeal finally ended when the suspect took her to Marcus Market on Prentiss Street. Police believe his intention was for her to buy something and get some cash back for him, but the suspect took off and the victim got help.

In the end, the suspect made off with only $15.

But this promising neighborhood of Midtown feels they were robbed of a whole lot more.

Read more: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23...#ixzz2e6sFK2aJ

In Chicago, the PD has been using face recognition software to catch perps. Hope Detroit PD has that same software, so they can catch him.

**JBMcB** · September-08-13, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Chicago48

In Chicago, the PD has been using face recognition software to catch perps. Hope Detroit PD has that same software, so they can catch him.

Facial recognition software works OK when comparing similar shots with each other - say mugshots and drivers license photos.

It's pretty awful at comparing random security photos to a known database. There have been a few companies trying to sell software that claims a high hit rate with security camera footage, but nobody has proven that it actually works.

There was a big pilot program for a similar system at the Superbowl a few years ago. They never used it again.

**jw101** · September-06-13, 03:41 PM

Can everyone go to the article on Fox 2 and try to determine what his shirt says?

**Lily** · September-06-13, 08:55 PM

[QUOTE=jw101;401698]Can everyone go to the article on Fox 2 and try to determine what his shirt says?[/

Such a simple thing everyone reading this request could do and maybe, just maybe recognize the punk or the shirt. I looked, no joy, but perhaps someone else reading this forum can have better luck!

lily

**Zacha341** · September-07-13, 05:33 AM

Resolution too low for me to read it, even putting the image thru Photoshop....

Originally Posted by jw101

Can everyone go to the article on Fox 2 and try to determine what his shirt says?

**detroitsgwenivere** · September-06-13, 07:46 PM

1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. College campuses have struggled against [[and covered up) rape culture for years. So I can't say I'm shocked that it happened, heinous as it is.

Most urban areas tend to have a few active rapists stalking about. No need to call out Midtown for this when we all know that rapists get picked up in well-to-do places too.

Now the eastside rapist, that had all of us females looking over our shoulder whenever were in the Operation Get Down part of town. I'll never understand why we choose to let violent sexual defectives out of prison knowing damn well 7 times out of 10 they are gonna do it again. Especially when they committed the assault via B&E, dead give away for a repeater.

**Danny** · September-08-13, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by detroitsgwenivere

1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. College campuses have struggled against [[and covered up) rape culture for years. So I can't say I'm shocked that it happened, heinous as it is.

Speaking of rape crimes. The campus of University of Michigan his the highest report of campus crime the State of Michigan. Are parents are thinking twice to send their adult child to that school?

48009 · September-08-13, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Danny

Speaking of rape crimes. The campus of University of Michigan his the highest report of campus crime the State of Michigan. Are parents are thinking twice to send their adult child to that school?

Source?
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**Danny** · September-08-13, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by 48009

Source?
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http://police.umich.edu/?s=alerts

Read that and reap! There's more to come.

48009 · September-08-13, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Danny

http://police.umich.edu/?s=alerts

Read that and reap! There's more to come.

That doesn't say it's the "highest report of campus crime" anywhere. I'd like to see a source that states that, or at least UM-Ann Arbor leading in one campus crime category.

**webband1** · September-06-13, 08:43 PM

Zacha, do you mind if I ask which gas station it was with the security? Would love to patron a station that looks out for its customers.

**Zacha341** · September-07-13, 05:58 AM

It's the Marathon on Woodward and Hazelwood. Do know this is not the greatest area -- and it is well outside of the WSU/ Midtown Radius. The station itself is a bit grim, bullet-proof glass style, but the owner knows me from my car, a modest car he happens to like so he watches while I pump.

And they have cool security/ bouncer who open carries, who's there most of the time.

If I have to get my gas in the city I prefer this station over the one on Woodward and Euclid which is really rough.

The station at Woodward and Forest often has alot of police around [[WSU and DPD) but their prices are very high!

Originally Posted by webband1

Zacha, do you mind if I ask which gas station it was with the security? Would love to patron a station that looks out for its customers.

**night-timer** · September-07-13, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

It's the Marathon on Woodward and Hazelwood. Do know this is not the greatest area -- and it is well outside of the WSU/ Midtown Radius. The station itself is a bit grim, bullet-proof glass style, but the owner knows me from my car, a modest car he happens to like so he watches while I pump.

And they have cool security/ bouncer who open carries, who's there most of the time.

If I have to get my gas in the city I prefer this station over the one on Woodward and Euclid which is really rough.

The station at Woodward and Forest often has alot of police around [[WSU and DPD) but their prices are very high!

Woodward and Euclid is a CitGo gas station. Separate topic, but does anyone know anything/the history/use of the 'Temple Bethel' building a little further along the road on Woodward?

**sumas** · September-07-13, 03:20 PM

I have toyed with getting a pistol and a concealed weapons permit for years. Mostly I say no to myself. Used to hunt with my Dad and was a good shot too.

Pretty sure I would over react to situations so best I don't. I walk my neighborhood, neighbors know me. I feel safe. Dumb clucks do approach but just dumb clucks.

I can though honestly say, I do not want another woman violated. Wishful thinking of course. It's devastating. Some deviant, gets to alter a life course??? I changed my mind, don't clip their cocks, just kill them.

Yes being raped really did change my whole world view. I got on with my life but that act is still pervasive.

**RickBeall** · September-07-13, 07:31 PM

Hi Sumas, thanks for speaking out. It makes us all realize we have to do something to make this better, when it has happened to people we know.

**sumas** · September-07-13, 09:03 PM

We house occasionally homeless people. A woman I'll call K, got picked up by family. They brought a neighbor kid with them. She was a pretty delightful child, maybe 8 or 9 yrs old. Ron noticed she had scars up and down her arm. I didn't see so can't say. I suggested maybe she was a cutter which can start pretty young. Ron thought it looked like cigarette burns. Torture of females can start quite early. These people came from the burbs and that charming child didn't know what a piano was???? Ron opened it up and let her bang away. I cry too for abused children.