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    Default American Apparel Downtown?

    Am I missing something here? Does the Curbed ad know something I don't? Royal Oak is not Detroit. Tis a good thing, as I suppose American Apparel is a store of some "caliber" that would be on par with Gilbert's oft touted Urban Outfitters.

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    To be fair, the same thing was thought with the Microsoft store at Somerset.

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    haha, they fixed it almost immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridy View Post
    haha, they fixed it almost immediately.

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    Royal Oak, Detroit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan View Post
    Royal Oak, Detroit!
    That was a pretty clumsy ad. Royal Oak is not a neighborhood in Detroit [[I doubt the person who wrote the tag realizes that). So they're telling Detroiters to visit their store in Royal Oak...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    That was a pretty clumsy ad. Royal Oak is not a neighborhood in Detroit [[I doubt the person who wrote the tag realizes that). So they're telling Detroiters to visit their store in Royal Oak...
    Reminds me of the time when I was trying to deal with a problem with some online/catalog retailer or another. During a phone conversation about replacing a certain item, the customer service person says to me excitedly: "Well sir, we have a store right there in Detroit!" "Where?" I ask. "In Troy!"

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    I'm surprised there is only one American Apparel in the tri-county.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    I'm surprised there is only one American Apparel in the tri-county.
    their target consumer is the just off-woodward crowd. and they typically don't locate in suburban malls, but rather in walkable sites with some critical mass. their royal oak spot pulls from the ferndale to birmingham +/- troy locales.

    midtown/downtown store could make a go as more bodies appear in the cbd.

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    north woodward area isn't where their target demographic is concentrated. their demographic is highly decentralized. royal oak is simply a central place to have a storefront, with strong retail sales, that is not a mall. detroit is arguably the most decentralized region in the country [[see job sprawl discussion).

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    The world view makes no distinction between City Limits and the Detroit region. Don't be so myopic!

    Just because it says it is Detroit, don't make it downtown either. It might open on Fenkell in Brightmoor, the ironic hipsters kids would find that to be as cool as Scotty Simpson fish!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner View Post
    The world view makes no distinction between City Limits and the Detroit region. Don't be so myopic!
    Except it just doesn't make sense. Not to be all English teacher-y, but it was an incorrect statement. Saying "I'm going to shop at American Apparel in Royal Oak, Detroit" is like saying "I'm going to shop on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles."

    Also, this ad being focused on the local market that made it even more weird. Everyone in Metro Detroit knows where Royal Oak is at and they know it's not physically in the city of Detroit. Which is why I'm reasoning that the person who wrote the tagline just isn't familiar with the Detroit area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    Except it just doesn't make sense. Not to be all English teacher-y, but it was an incorrect statement. Saying "I'm going to shop at American Apparel in Royal Oak, Detroit" is like saying "I'm going to shop on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles."

    Also, this ad being focused on the local market that made it even more weird. Everyone in Metro Detroit knows where Royal Oak is at and they know it's not physically in the city of Detroit. Which is why I'm reasoning that the person who wrote the tagline just isn't familiar with the Detroit area.
    Yet I am able to understand Micro Center's way of locating their stores: region, then place in the region:
    California
    • Orange County/Tustin
    Colorado
    • Denver/Denver Tech Center
    Georgia
    • Greater Atlanta/Duluth
    • Greater Atlanta/Marietta
    Illinois
    • Chicagoland/Central
    • Chicagoland/Westmont
    Kansas
    • Kansas City/Overland Park
    Massachusetts
    • Boston/Cambridge
    Maryland
    • Beltway/Rockville
    • Baltimore/Towson
    Michigan
    • Detroit/Madison Heights
    Minnesota
    • Twin Cities/St. Louis Park
    Missouri
    • St. Louis/Brentwood
    New Jersey
    • North Jersey/Paterson
    New York
    • Long Island/Westbury
    • Westchester County/Yonkers
    Ohio
    • Central Ohio/Columbus
    • Northeast Ohio/Mayfield Hts.
    • Cincinnati/Sharonville
    Pennsylvania
    • Philadelphia/St. Davids
    Texas
    • Houston/West Loop
    • Dallas Metroplex/Richardson
    Virginia
    • Northern Virginia/Fairfax

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    Quote Originally Posted by RO_Resident View Post
    Yet I am able to understand Micro Center's way of locating their stores: region, then place in the region:
    California
    • Orange County/Tustin
    Colorado
    • Denver/Denver Tech Center
    Georgia
    • Greater Atlanta/Duluth
    • Greater Atlanta/Marietta
    Illinois
    • Chicagoland/Central
    • Chicagoland/Westmont
    Kansas
    • Kansas City/Overland Park
    Massachusetts
    • Boston/Cambridge
    Maryland
    • Beltway/Rockville
    • Baltimore/Towson
    Michigan
    • Detroit/Madison Heights
    Minnesota
    • Twin Cities/St. Louis Park
    Missouri
    • St. Louis/Brentwood
    New Jersey
    • North Jersey/Paterson
    New York
    • Long Island/Westbury
    • Westchester County/Yonkers
    Ohio
    • Central Ohio/Columbus
    • Northeast Ohio/Mayfield Hts.
    • Cincinnati/Sharonville
    Pennsylvania
    • Philadelphia/St. Davids
    Texas
    • Houston/West Loop
    • Dallas Metroplex/Richardson
    Virginia
    • Northern Virginia/Fairfax
    Notice that they used a "/" instead of a ","? Because "," denote subsets within an administrative hierarchy:

    Brush Park, Detroit, Michigan
    Capitol Hill, Washington, District of Columbia
    Times Square, New York, New York
    Grant Park, Chicago, Illinois


    Writing Royal Oak, Detroit, suggests that Royal Oak is a subset of the municipality of Detroit. Writing Detroit/Royal Oak is something entirely different.
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    okay this is getting wierd. "visit our store IN detroit"

    say what you want about 'detroit' and its regional context. this is too intentional. someone doesn't have a clue over in marketing, and im getting annoyed
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    Royal Oak is Detroit. Much as it pains the city-limits fundamentalists, it's all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    Royal Oak is Detroit. Much as it pains the city-limits fundamentalists, it's all the same.
    Really? I have a bit of a debt issue and cash flow problem I'd like to discuss with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Really? I have a bit of a debt issue and cash flow problem I'd like to discuss with you.
    Unfortunately, yeah, we all pay for the city's decline.

    See today's Freep article on the downtown/midtown subsidy racket, and how downtown/midtown rental rates are low and vacancies high [[contrary to the claims you see on DYes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bham1982 View Post
    Royal Oak is Detroit. Much as it pains the city-limits fundamentalists, it's all the same.
    Since it's an online ad, I would venture to say it was specifically localized to fit a Detroit area audience looking at the Detroit version of Curbed. Since, supposedly, they are talking to locals, the ad was confusing by not just stating their location as "Royal Oak." If I was interested in the store, and I live somewhere in the metro area, I would want to know how far away the store is. Using a generalized "Detroit" as a location doesn't tell the prospective local shopper how close they are to it. It's poor marketing and has nothing to do with "city-limits fundamentalists."

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownguy View Post
    Since it's an online ad, I would venture to say it was specifically localized to fit a Detroit area audience looking at the Detroit version of Curbed. Since, supposedly, they are talking to locals, the ad was confusing by not just stating their location as "Royal Oak." If I was interested in the store, and I live somewhere in the metro area, I would want to know how far away the store is. Using a generalized "Detroit" as a location doesn't tell the prospective local shopper how close they are to it. It's poor marketing and has nothing to do with "city-limits fundamentalists."
    Yeah... I'm guessing most of these people didn't realize this is a local ad. American Apparel isn't running ads in St. Louis for patrons to come shop at American Apparel in "Royal Oak, Detroit." Hence why it doesn't make sense...

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    These ads are not mentioning Detroit in error.

    They are attaching their branding - aimed at their demographic - to Detroit's current hip, urban cache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshamusic View Post
    These ads are not mentioning Detroit in error.

    They are attaching their branding - aimed at their demographic - to Detroit's current hip, urban cache.
    That, and they're probably located in some other State, [[Country?), so when they look @ a map, Detroit and Royal Oak are only a half inch apart. Sometimes when I'm searching for a specific service, and punch in, let's say Royal Oak, I get nothing. If I punch in the name, then Detroit, the service appears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    That, and they're probably located in some other State, [[Country?), so when they look @ a map, Detroit and Royal Oak are only a half inch apart. Sometimes when I'm searching for a specific service, and punch in, let's say Royal Oak, I get nothing. If I punch in the name, then Detroit, the service appears.
    Yeah, I know what you're saying, about the proximity to outsiders, but I don't think this is a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshamusic View Post
    Yeah, I know what you're saying, about the proximity to outsiders, but I don't think this is a mistake.
    Well, you were right about the cesspool in the picture.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshamusic View Post

    They are attaching their branding - aimed at their demographic - to Detroit's current hip, urban cache.
    You think Detroit has a reputation as "hip and urban" nationally? I don't think I could disagree more.

    They're doing this for the same reason they do it in every city. They don't say "West Hollywood, CA", they say LA. They don't say "White Plains, NY"., they say NYC.

    Only here in Metro Detroit do we argue over random municipal limits. And even here, it's selective. No one would claim Metro Airport serves Romulus, or the Detroit Zoo serves Huntington Woods. It's all ridiculous.

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    Maybe it is inviting Detroiter's to shop at their Royal Oak store?

    "Come shop at American Apparel in Royal Oak, Detroit!"

    I would think that american made stuff would sell well around here. Detroiter's regardless of city boundary are all loyal to American made stuff.

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