Party Stores 'Fun' w Social Media: Racial Slurs, Photos. Later Apologies...

[Zacha341]

Black customer photos with racist remarks posted on social media

Some Detroit party store customers were horrified to see their pictures on social media sites with racist comments. They called Fox 2 looking for answers.

People who think racism is wrong and disgraceful will be disgusted and sickened by this. Cell phone pictures were taken of black customers who did not know they were being disrespected, and some of them were kids.

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[Umbound]

I hope no one takes this into account that it happens at every small business in the city. Really unfortunate and immature of these idiots to do this, my family has owned stores in the city for almost thirty years now and have never done anything remotely close to this. Nor do we even tolerate it. Hopefully when I'm home from Ann Arbor this summer I don't hear this from customers & it get generalized by city residents.

[brizee]

That's what you get when you refuse to support your community/local neighborhood.

Treat their own like dirt, and trip over themselves to rub elbows with people who'd sooner see them dissolve into thin air than treat them with respect as neighbors and fellow human beings.

Modern black people deserve every indignity they allow this country/state/region to put on them.

[Downtown Lady]

Modern black people deserve every indignity they allow this country/state/region to put on them.

Wow, that is a really sh*tty thing to say.

That's basically implying that someone has control over what everyone else in the country/state/region is doing, and if you fail to satisfactorily control them, it's your fault.

[brizee]

Wow, that is a really sh*tty thing to say.

That's basically implying that someone has control over what everyone else in the country/state/region is doing, and if you fail to satisfactorily control them, it's your fault.

I'm black and spent my entire life in Detroit.

I just want us to do better.

When I see we treat each other/our community like absolute shit but go out of our way to clean up our act for others, it drives me nuts.

We won't start our own businesses, and those here we won't patron.

When business does get created it's ghetto bullshit and customers get treated like dirt. Or the customers act like dirt.

What is it Detroiters annually spend in the suburbs 1.3 billion or 130 million? That is tremendous power but we refuse to use it it. We won't vote except with the threat of an EFM over our heads. There is no reason we should have to beg anyone for sevice, products, or jobs.

I had a conversation with my father recently. He stated if every grocery store in the state adopted a no black customers rule, Detroit would starve in a week.

I'm tirerd of us standing with hat in hand wishing for others to treat us with respect. Respect isn't given, or earned. It's demanded, which we refuse to do.

Yes this country did reprehensible things to us, so let's stop giving people the opportunity to take advantage of us.

PS. Don't take this to mean I have animosity with any one race of people.

[jaytheory]

[QUOTE=brizee;380323]

Respect isn't given, or earned. It's demanded, which we refuse to do.


I agree with what you say except the above. Respect is earned, we try to demand it, and you cant demand that some respect you. you can demand that they let you in there store or live on there block, but you cant demand respect, it is earned, and untill we start acting like we give a damn, nobody is going to give a damn about us.

[jt1]

[QUOTE=jaytheory;380340]

Respect isn't given, or earned. It's demanded, which we refuse to do.


I agree with what you say except the above. Respect is earned, we try to demand it, and you cant demand that some respect you. you can demand that they let you in there store or live on there block, but you cant demand respect, it is earned, and untill we start acting like we give a damn, nobody is going to give a damn about us.

How can you earn respect from someone that clearly is unwilling to give respect no matter what?

[Hermod]

We won't start our own businesses, and those here we won't patron.

Brizee: That is one of the unfortunate casualties of the civil rights movement. In the days of Jim Crow in the south and residential segregation and job discrimination in the north, the most ambitious black men and women sought to own their own business and be their own boss. There were man small black businesses. During the sixties and seventies civil rights era, there was a cultural shift away from that ambition and the Chaldeans/Koreans/Chinese filled the niches of running small businesses in the black community.

[jt1]

Brizee: That is one of the unfortunate casualties of the civil rights movement. In the days of Jim Crow in the south and residential segregation and job discrimination in the north, the most ambitious black men and women sought to own their own business and be their own boss. There were man small black businesses. During the sixties and seventies civil rights era, there was a cultural shift away from that ambition and the Chaldeans/Koreans/Chinese filled the niches of running small businesses in the black community.

Well, that and the supplier network that squeezed out a number of black businesses. When the suppliers stop delivering to you because you're not chaldean then it makes it a little difficult to maintain your business.

[EastsideAl]

Thanks so much for raising the level of this discussion brizee.

[Johnnny5]

I don't believe the "My son's account was hacked" excuse for a second. The idiot has the right to say stupid things, but he also should realize that they come with consequences. If these were my friends and family in the pics I would be out front picketing until the son publicly apologized at the very least and probably would not step foot into the place again unless he was fired.

[Detroit Stylin]

I don't believe the "My son's account was hacked" excuse for a second. The idiot has the right to say stupid things, but he also should realize that they come with consequences. If these were my friends and family in the pics I would be out front picketing until the son publicly apologized at the very least and probably would not step foot into the place again unless he was fired.

Supposedly the father fired him....

[jt1]

Supposedly the father fired him....

Until this blows over then he'll be back. In the meantime I'm sure pops it keeping money in his son's pockets. People can bitch about the patrons at some of these stores but I have found that the owners [[certainly not all but a lot) are worse. I've known people who've owned a few stores like this and the contempt they have for their customers is appaling

[poobert]

Until this blows over then he'll be back. In the meantime I'm sure pops it keeping money in his son's pockets. People can bitch about the patrons at some of these stores but I have found that the owners [[certainly not all but a lot) are worse. I've known people who've owned a few stores like this and the contempt they have for their customers is appaling

The state of the vast majority of the stores is even worse. I can barely stomach going into my corner party store, which sucks because it's only like 5 houses away. What really gets me is the places that let open-air drug dealing happen outside or even inside.

It works both ways. If you create a decent, clean environment with halfway decent product in your stores then you will attract halfway decent people.

This isn't Faces of Wal-Mart. That's customers taking pictures of other customers. These are the very people who own/run the stores taking pictures of unsuspecting customers, who they are making a living off of. This is all besides the fact that these are human beings who you would think deserve respect as such.

And really, as Chaldeans, they're a minority too. In Iraq, a very persecuted minority, and here I'm sure they face discrimination and distrust from others as well. Yet it's cool to be racist, so long as it's the other guy? Have a little self-awareness, at least.

[Detroit Stylin]

Until this blows over then he'll be back. In the meantime I'm sure pops it keeping money in his son's pockets. People can bitch about the patrons at some of these stores but I have found that the owners [[certainly not all but a lot) are worse. I've known people who've owned a few stores like this and the contempt they have for their customers is appaling

I must agree with that. That seems to be the case since people's memories seem to get shorter and shorter...

[Hermod]

While racist comments might be out of bound, taking humiliating pictures of customers in their worst light and posting it on the innertubz has a long and glorious history. Check "People of Walmart" sometime where cellphone photographers take embarrassing pictures of trailer park trash and post them on the innertubz.

[hortonz]

As long as people in Detroit patronize businesses owned and operated by racist jerks the business owners will be laughing all the way to the bank. You have a choice where you can spend your money.

[Detroitdave]

As long as people in Detroit patronize businesses owned and operated by racist jerks the business owners will be laughing all the way to the bank. You have a choice where you can spend your money.

FOOD DESERT :
I REALLY dislike going to these "party" stores, "super market" or most "gas stations" in the City limits of Detroit . I try not to frequent these place and NO, no one is making me shop at these place , but every once in a while I will have to stop in to get gas or pick up something .
They don't keep their parking lots clean
It bothers me they allow people to "hang" out front and allow people to buy "loosey".
The prices are much higher than at a typical store.

A friend of mine had the funniest/sad thing on her facebook page , it was a list of things posted on the front door of a "party store",a list of what was not allowed . It was sad/funny, I'll try to find it and post it.

These stores are often dirty and carry nothing of nutritional value. they offer only what people in the area can afford to buy and too often these people don't demand any better so these "stores" will sell the least quality of goods .

I find it demeaning to people in the area to have to shop at these "stores", but maybe I'm missing something , maybe it goes both ways ? maybe its so bad in these areas this is all that's left ? I just feel it's getting worse and worse.



I find it sad that two generations of Detroiter's think it's normal to speak to a cashier through bullet proof glass . I know it's a sign of the times in many areas and at many banks but ,until we demand better as a community this is what we are stuck with ?

It's a race to the bottom for food and services in these "stores".

I feel many of these store owners feel like they are doing the people in these areas a "favor" because often no other stores will step , so the people in these area are stuck in these "food desert"

We do have a choice where we spend our money I prefer not to spend mine in these stores .

[Umbound]

I put in the first reply a bit ago regarding this issue. Since I am Chaldean and my family owns stores in the city. I cannot speak for every one only for myself and my family that at our stores we do not tolerate anything illegal to take place inside or outside of our businesses and that we keep our businesses cleaner then most bars/etc. downtown. Especially treating everyone with respect. I feel ashamed.

[Danny]

Horendeous stupid and act of hatred! That should be charged with THOUGHTCRIME! However this is America and he's, protected under the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. That former Arab party store employee had to be extremely cautious while dealing with certian ethnic people in their community. Especially doing business in the black community! He and his family who runs a business could get beaten up, shot or possibly dead. Even his business getting burn down.

[AuburnSpeedster]

Horendeous stupid and act of hatred! That should be charged with THOUGHTCRIME! However this is America and he's, protected under the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. That former Arab party store employee had to be extremely cautious while dealing with certian ethnic people in their community. Especially doing business in the black community! He and his family who runs a business could get beaten up, shot or possibly dead. Even his business getting burn down.

Actually the second amendment is the right to bear arms. The 1st amendment is free speech.

[jt1]

No doubt there are good places. I'm curious, when someone in the black or Muslim community does something stupid the general public seems to insist that the respective community must do something about it or publicly denounce the actions of the few.

Why doesn't it apply here? Why isn't anyone insisting that the owners of the other stored in the city speak out against their peers and insist this is not acceptable behaviour? Is there perhaps a double standard at play?

[Johnnny5]

No doubt there are good places. I'm curious, when someone in the black or Muslim community does something stupid the general public seems to insist that the respective community must do something about it or publicly denounce the actions of the few.

Why doesn't it apply here? Why isn't anyone insisting that the owners of the other stored in the city speak out against their peers and insist this is not acceptable behaviour? Is there perhaps a double standard at play?

I don't think that's the case. I think the "double standard" is more of a reaction to those that irrationally defend someone just because they happen to share the same ethnic background or race [[That's the exact opposite of what umbound is doing here.)

Umbound, you do not share any blame for the actions of this idiot, nor should you feel any shame just because he happens to belong to the same ethnic group. The racist comments this guy made are his own.

[Downtown Lady]

Umbound, you do not share any blame for the actions of this idiot, nor should you feel any shame just because he happens to belong to the same ethnic group. The racist comments this guy made are his own.

I agree 100%.

[jt1]

I agree and I certainly was not trying to blame Umbound or his family. I am speaking about the fact if something happens in the black or muslim community, the expectations now, is that the community should apologize and condemn the actions of the ignorant few.

Why does this seem to only come up for specific minority groups?