Carl Levin Retiring

**fanniemae** · March-08-13, 09:35 AM

This jerk cannot leave fast enough. What a fossil. What did he ever do for Michigan? Now it is time for Dingelberry and senile Conyers to go too. One can hope.

**kenp** · March-08-13, 09:46 AM

Dingelberry? haha
Maybe Granholm might be interested

**fanniemae** · March-08-13, 09:49 AM

What other disgraced dem will run for this seat ?
Hope Granmole stays in LA.

**Wesley Mouch** · March-08-13, 09:56 AM

Thanks for your service. I don't agree with many of your policies, but I do appreciate your hard work on behalf of our great state.

**kenp** · March-08-13, 09:56 AM

An open Senate seat is a real big deal, the DC folk will be involved.
As far as Jenny I hope she keeps her day job, but thinking about it she would have to be considered.

**Big Dog** · March-08-13, 10:10 AM

I believe Levin, voted the most for the middleclass, and poor, than many others.

**Zulu Warrior** · March-08-13, 10:34 AM

He emobdied what a scandal free, legitimate policy maker should look like...gonna be missed

**mikefmich** · March-08-13, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Zulu Warrior

He emobdied what a scandal free, legitimate policy maker should look like...gonna be missed

We need a like button here. lol

**jefferson78** · March-08-13, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Big Dog

I believe Levin, voted the most for the middleclass, and poor, than many others.

Some people may not agree with everything he did, but one thing is for sure, he fought for the "little" guy.
Politicians like him are hard to come by nowadays.
The only one who I can see that even comes close to Carl is the newly elected Elizabeth Warren. That woman kicks serious a__!
I jut hope his replacement can somehow fill the big shoes he'll leave behind.

**Signman** · March-08-13, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by jefferson78

Some people may not agree with everything he did, but one thing is for sure, he fought for the "little" guy.
Politicians like him are hard to come by nowadays.
The only one who I can see that even comes close to Carl is the newly elected Elizabeth Warren. That woman kicks serious a__!
I jut hope his replacement can somehow fill the big shoes he'll leave behind.

How's that little guy doing?

**jefferson78** · March-08-13, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Signman

How's that little guy doing?

He'd be doing a lot better if the people who are trying to help were not thwarted in their attempts.
Sadly, this may be the new norm. The rich keep getting richer and the ones who aren't, well they'll continue to suffer.
This is why losing a fighter like Carl Levin will be one more drawback they'll have to deal with.

**Ray1936** · March-08-13, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Big Dog

I believe Levin, voted the most for the middleclass, and poor, than many others.

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

**mikefmich** · March-08-13, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ray1936

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

You were DPOA, right Ray? Never forget one's roots and which side of the coin did more for them.

**Det_ard** · March-08-13, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by mikefmich

You were DPOA, right Ray? Never forget one's roots and which side of the coin did more for them.

Hey, a taker is a taker, even if they're taking from someone else and putting the money in your pocket.

I respected his knowledge, particularly in foreign affairs and defense matters. Domestically he was a garden variety tax-and-spend liberal, which some like but others don't. He was political, those who don't see that aspect of his career are probably in agreement with his politics.

On a personal level he and his wife were pretty aloof to the staff at the Pavilion where they had an apartment. Decades of being deferred to can make a person a bit arrogant.

**leapfrog** · March-08-13, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by mikefmich

You were DPOA, right Ray? Never forget one's roots and which side of the coin did more for them.

Read some of Ray's other posts. He's just a cranky old man who has HIS entitlements but thinks no one else should.

**jefferson78** · March-08-13, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Ray1936

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

Yeah, I know that money should only be given to wealthy people and large corporations.
Morons who think like you are part of the reason we are in the shape we're in.
Newsflash......All middle and lower class people do not sit on their ass waiting for you to send them a check.
But trying to talk sense into someone like you isn't worth my time.

Imagine that, a person who actually cares about the downtrodden and those who are vulnerable, and you put him down. I think I know where you come from.

**noise** · March-08-13, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ray1936

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

I want to make sure none of my tax money has ever gone to helping you, specifically, in any way whatsoever.

**swingline** · March-08-13, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ray1936

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

Good Lord Ray, are you being serious? If not, sometimes you need to us this:

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If you are serious, you've got a pretty twisted viewpoint of who is "taking" the money that you worked so hard for. Instead of pointing a finger at the single-parent WIC recipient, you might want to look instead at the well-heeled beneficiaries of the carried interest deduction and at the folks deducting mortgage interest on loans over $500K and on vacation homes. These folks cost you at least twice as much annually as those folks you claim are sitting on their asses.

**MikeM** · March-08-13, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ray1936

Of course. He's a bleeding heart liberal, who wants to take the money I have that I have worked hard for and give it to those who would rather sit on their asses. I hope he sits on those stupid specticals of his.

Aren't you sitting on your butt in Las Vegas while Detroit tries to fund your pension?

**Cliffy** · March-08-13, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by MikeM

Aren't you sitting on your butt in Las Vegas while Detroit tries to fund your pension?

Unfortunately he doesn't realize that if the Republicans were in charge, he would have a 401k and probably be a security guard at walmart right now instead of retired with a pension and health care.

**Bham1982** · March-08-13, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Big Dog

I believe Levin, voted the most for the middleclass, and poor, than many others.

Really? What a jerk! Imagine voting for the middle class and poor, of all people. Why wasn't he out there representing only the wealthy few??

**mikefmich** · March-08-13, 10:46 AM

Fanniemae, when our state loses someone with the time Levin had in the Senate, everyone loses. Even "jerks" from the other side of the political spectrum.

**swingline** · March-08-13, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by mikefmich

Fanniemae, when our state loses someone with the time Levin had in the Senate, everyone loses. Even "jerks" from the other side of the political spectrum.

Agreed 100%. Sen. Levin has been a lion of an advocate for all of Michigan for decades. His national influence will be sorely missed. He never pandered to the liberal fringe. He didn't waste time pursuing unneeded legislation on divisive social issues. And but for the bought-off by Wall Street crowd, he would also have added meaningful bank/finance reform to his legacy. A true leader. A fine public servant. One of the best legislators this state has ever produced.

**p69rrh51** · March-08-13, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by swingline

Agreed 100%. Sen. Levin has been a lion of an advocate for all of Michigan for decades. His national influence will be sorely missed. He never pandered to the liberal fringe. He didn't waste time pursuing unneeded legislation on divisive social issues. And but for the bought-off by Wall Street crowd, he would also have added meaningful bank/finance reform to his legacy. A true leader. A fine public servant. One of the best legislators this state has ever produced.

I did not agree with most of his policies and he always came off as clueless to me when asked even the most puff question on foreign policy. I am not sure he was that big of a "lion" for the state. Since I do not know maybe someone on here has the answer to the percentage of taxes dollars paid versus tax dollars that come back to MI, have they gone up or down during his time in office. I think that would be the best test of his support of the state.

**Hermod** · March-10-13, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by p69rrh51

Since I do not know maybe someone on here has the answer to the percentage of taxes dollars paid versus tax dollars that come back to MI, have they gone up or down during his time in office. I think that would be the best test of his support of the state.

That is very often a meaningless comparison.

Cold weather "lose" payroll taxes paid to the feds by their workers. Warm weather states "gain" social security checks and medicare benefits paid by the older retirees living there. Coastal states with Navy bases "gain" from the money spent at the expense of non-coastal states. Climate dictates which states have large Army and Air 'Force installations so they "gain" at the expense of stats without.