2013 Detroit MOST Miserable City in USA [[Forbes)

**brizee** · February-23-13, 09:27 PM

I'm not linking to it to give these guys hits, but Forbes just came out with their most miserable cities list and Detroit, Flint and Warren are all in the top ten.

Now you won't see me questioning that this is a dysfunctional place.

But the timing of some of this stuff is kinda weird.

Detroit and St. Louis are in the WS so an article naming them the two most dangerous cities in America appear.

New Orleans and Detroit are in a playoff game so a similar article pops off.

When Detroit's financial situation is in the news a list you don't want to be on is sure to follow.

I'm not arguing against the content of the article. I think most media in America isn't fit to wipe a dog's ass. But the timing of their release is interesting.

**Dtroit** · February-23-13, 11:09 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbade...erable-cities/

Forbes recently named Detroit the MOST miserable city in America. Anyone here actually surprised?

**313WX** · February-24-13, 12:34 AM

Well duh!!!

Warren and Flint made the list as well.

**jerrytimes** · February-26-13, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Well duh!!!

Warren and Flint made the list as well.

I find their reasoning for putting Warren in there a little odd. They said that houses have dropped over 50% in value....that's a lie. Sure, some have, but most are no where near that. My parents live near 12 mile and their house was worth about $200,000 before the market crashed. Last week, a house in the neighborhood that was comparable sold for $130,000. There are tons of cities around where that stat applies, so why did they pick out Warren? Sorta weird. I live in Roseville, my house dropped over 50%, my friend in Hazel Park.... same thing.... and we don't have the tech center of one of the big three in our city.

**KJ5** · February-24-13, 01:17 AM

In a related story, DetroitYES named most miserable internet forum.

**leapfrog** · February-24-13, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by KJ5

In a related story, DetroitYES named most miserable internet forum.

based on some of the posts i read, I would agree with this assessment

**wolverine** · February-24-13, 01:56 AM

Wow was someone mad at the Midwest.

Btw if miserable equated to suicidal, it wouldn't be the list above. Most those cities have very low suicidal rates where the ones Forbes names best 'whatever' have quite the share of different problems.

Just be happy Detroit gets good press from legitimate media sources.

**Honky Tonk** · February-24-13, 02:19 AM

And in a related story, DetroitYES! finds Forbes the most miserable magazine in the USA.

**aj3647** · February-25-13, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by wolverine

Wow was someone mad at the Midwest.

Btw if miserable equated to suicidal, it wouldn't be the list above. Most those cities have very low suicidal rates where the ones Forbes names best 'whatever' have quite the share of different problems.

Just be happy Detroit gets good press from legitimate media sources.

People don't commit suicide because of where they live, they commit suicide due to mental health/depression issues, or personal/financial/family problems.

BTW, what "good" press has the city been getting lately? The two national news stories emerging from Detroit have been:
1) Impending bankruptcy/state takeover
2) Kwame's federal corruption trial

Oh, and if you want to count the Auschwitz sign at the Packard Plant, that made national news too for about a day.

GUSHI · February-24-13, 07:31 AM

Wasn't Miami the most miserable last year, Sunny , beach , warm, wtf does Forbes no anyways,

**Cincinnati_Kid** · February-24-13, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by GUSHI

Wasn't Miami the most miserable last year, Sunny , beach , warm, wtf does Forbes no anyways,

I second that.

Forbes needs to stick to being a financial magazine.

**leapfrog** · February-24-13, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by GUSHI

Wasn't Miami the most miserable last year, Sunny , beach , warm, wtf does Forbes no anyways,

I would think they would know the difference between KNOW and NO for starters...

**Cincinnati_Kid** · February-24-13, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by leapfrog

I would think they would know the difference between KNOW and NO for starters...

C'mon, give him a mulligan.

**Downriviera** · February-24-13, 09:48 AM

They didn't use sports teams as a criteria this year, so we can't blame the Lions.

**313WX** · February-24-13, 12:40 AM

Regardless of how you feel about their delivery, they're right on.

Detroit and Flint sucks [[is there anything going right for most of their citizens right now?), and so does Warren unless you're a retiree from the auto industry. South Warren is essentially little Detroit now, or as I call it, Warrentucky.

**KJ5** · February-24-13, 01:11 AM

"Well I am sick and tired of being told that I'm fed up with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am. " -Monty Python's Flying Circus

**Bad Brains** · February-24-13, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

South Warren is essentially little Detroit now, or as I call it, Warrentucky.

That just adds to the list of Taylortucky, Hazeltuckey, Hillbilly-Heights, and Roachville [[Roseville). This area has a lot of hillbillies it seems.

**Trumpeteer** · February-26-13, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Bad Brains

That just adds to the list of Taylortucky, Hazeltuckey, Hillbilly-Heights, and Roachville [[Roseville). This area has a lot of hillbillies it seems.

Your "handle" seems very appropriate based on that comment. Very representative.

**nain rouge** · February-26-13, 10:59 AM

To be fair, according to Forbes, they're actually singling out the Warren-Troy-Farmington Hills "metro" [[the three areas are sometimes grouped together by the government). Of course, our local media didn't really bother to correct the false perception that Forbes was keying in specifically on Warren, because then our newspapers would have to admit that virtually the entire market is nationally viewed as "miserable"! You can't have that, can you?

**kenp** · February-24-13, 08:23 AM

I agree with the premise, that is how the news media works, take advantage of a story and exploit it. However I don't think that is going on here. I don't think many nationally give a crap when Bing goes on CNN or CBS does a story on Kwame's trail. The Forbes story is going to come out the same every year. They are just telling us what we already know.

**Detroitnerd** · February-24-13, 04:04 PM

I think Forbes is the most miserable magazine in the United States, so we're even.

**maverick1** · February-24-13, 04:48 PM

When I saw this on the news I said "what else is new". It seems Detroit is on the list every year. Detroit sucks we all know blah blah blah. Detroit being miserable and the worst city on earth is old news. What I don't get is why people never get tired of it.

**Detronic** · February-24-13, 05:08 PM

I've lived in Warren my whole life and currently am residing in Detroit. Never felt miserable and quite frankly never been happier. Frobes, speak for yourself! We're doing just fine without your input.

**Bad Brains** · February-24-13, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Detronic

I've lived in Warren my whole life and currently am residing in Detroit. Never felt miserable and quite frankly never been happier. Forbes, speak for yourself! We're doing just fine without your input.

In defense of Forbes [[it hurts saying that), their findings are just based on stats and collected data. The economy overall is bad, a lot of down and out people, and no mass transit. I wouldn't call this a "happy" progressive region.

With that being said, the list means nothing on an individual bases. A lot of people here are like yourself and not miserable. Personally, I would never leave unless something happened where I HAD to, but I know people who live in actual real cities like Portland and they say the vibe is much better off than here, but doesn't surprise me.

**iheartthed** · February-26-13, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Bad Brains

In defense of Forbes [[it hurts saying that), their findings are just based on stats and collected data. The economy overall is bad, a lot of down and out people, and no mass transit. I wouldn't call this a "happy" progressive region.

With that being said, the list means nothing on an individual bases. A lot of people here are like yourself and not miserable. Personally, I would never leave unless something happened where I HAD to, but I know people who live in actual real cities like Portland and they say the vibe is much better off than here, but doesn't surprise me.

Their lists are based on random statistics which they never explain how those stats translate into happiness or miserableness. They just pick a random adjective out of a hat and then cherry pick some numbers that usually aren't an accurate measure of the adjective they chose. They come up with a list and then slap it on a web page to generate clicks.

My favorite list is the one about traffic congestion that ranks Detroit much higher than it should be because they measure "congestion" by the amount of time that drivers that a percentage of the population spends driving to their destinations. Commuters in Detroit spend more time in their cars because they tend to live far from their place of employment and also because public transportation is nonexistent. Traffic congestion in Detroit is about as prevalent as public transportation options.