Any Witnesses to the Wildings, 02/09/2013?

**Gannon** · February-10-13, 02:01 AM

Channel 4 reported on their eleven o'clock news about a spree of violence reportedly churned up by a group of teenagers on what appeared to be a random rampage.

They had some ridiculous imagery of cops speeding around downtown on slick roads with relatively heavy traffic, and interviews with employees of some of the establishments affected by these events.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/D...g/-/index.html

The video showed a few take-downs by officers in front of a store...it was brutal stuff, but from all descriptions it seems these kids earned any bruises they took. IF the cops got the right folks. Hoods and blue and black colors.

It seemed the police had sufficient force to find at least a few of the perpetrators.

We decided to not go to the Blast tonight, did anyone happen upon any trouble at American Coney Island or any other establishment, or on the streets last evening?

**Honky Tonk** · February-10-13, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Gannon

Channel 4 reported on their eleven o'clock news about a spree of violence reportedly churned up by a group of teenagers on what appeared to be a random rampage.

They had some ridiculous imagery of cops speeding around downtown on slick roads with relatively heavy traffic, and interviews with employees of some of the establishments affected by these events.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/D...g/-/index.html

The video showed a few take-downs by officers in front of a store...it was brutal stuff, but from all descriptions it seems these kids earned any bruises they took. IF the cops got the right folks. Hoods and blue and black colors.

It seemed the police had sufficient force to find at least a few of the perpetrators.

We decided to not go to the Blast tonight, did anyone happen upon any trouble at Lafayette Coney Island or any other establishment, or on the streets last evening?

F-'em, they didn't get enough of what they deserved. Those clowns just undid what it took 5 years to establish. The people that were attacked and got in their cars and left, they won't be back. And the people who saw the video, they won't be coming down.

**getmoore** · February-10-13, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

F-'em, they didn't get enough of what they deserved. Those clowns just undid what it took 5 years to establish. The people that were attacked and got in their cars and left, they won't be back. And the people who saw the video, they won't be coming down.

I'm no conspiracy theorist but somehow i think that was the plan.
I think those kids were sent there to scare "outsiders". I know. I know.Maybe I'm just so tired of this racist "us v.s. them" bull that I've been hearing the past few weeks that I'm quite loopy.

**Detroitdave** · February-11-13, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by getmoore

I'm no conspiracy theorist but somehow i think that was the plan.
I think those kids were sent there to scare "outsiders". I know. I know.Maybe I'm just so tired of this racist "us v.s. them" bull that I've been hearing the past few weeks that I'm quite loopy.

I think this is a part of it ! Someone said that "they" the kids don't read detroityes or reading any of the blogs on how Detroit is doing better .
probably not , but they see all the new things happening downtown and that's why they chose downtown to do this .
Detroit is not the only place things like this happen , there was just a shooting in New Orleans , on bourbon st the weekend before mardi gras ,
However this is sad and for a city with a serious image problem this does not look good.
Detroit is at a crossroads and fragile place and things like this just can't be allowed.
I think Gilbert and other business owners should hire their own LARGE armed security force .
A very large and visual security might have help discourage them[[teens) and made families feel safer ?

I was surprised by all the people making excuses for this ? We should be coming down harder on this behavior , not making excuses.
Does it need to be dealt with yes , but making excuses is not it .

Maybe we should have curfews for kids under 18 after 10pm since the parents are not responsible enough to know where their kids are and what their kids are doing ? I doubt the teens have learn anything, seems like a waste of time to just release them to their parents ?they were probably right back on the street 1/2 hour later ? :-[[ There should have been a stricter punishment .

On a quick side note I was Downtown earlier on Saturday and saw a big group [[about 20) Asian tourist with cameras in hand, no pun intended, :-)
And I thought WOW this is new for Detroit ?are things changing so much we have tourist from Asia touring ? and then that happens Saturday night :-[[
I hope this event won't stop people from coming downtown ?

**gnome** · February-10-13, 07:01 AM

And folks wonder how Pine Knob usurped Cobo as the premier concert venue. Roving gangs of black youths in August of 1976 rushed the turnstiles at Cobo and beat patrons at a Average White Band Concert, there were gang rapes on the sidewalk out front ... Judge Gregg Mathis was one of the leaders of the Errol Flynns who beat people with folding chairs.

good job Detroit.

**Honky Tonk** · February-10-13, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

And folks wonder how Pine Knob usurped Cobo as the premier concert venue. Roving gangs of black youths in August of 1976 rushed the turnstiles at Cobo and beat patrons at a Average White Band Concert, there were gang rapes on the sidewalk out front ... Judge Gregg Mathis was one of the leaders of the Errol Flynns who beat people with folding chairs.

good job Detroit.

For reaL??

**gnome** · February-10-13, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

For reaL??

Yup. It is one of those fuckedupbeyondbelielfkindofdetroitstories. The kindly judge even bragged about it in his autobiography.

**Honky Tonk** · February-10-13, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

Yup. It is one of those fuckedupbeyondbelielfkindofdetroitstories. The kindly judge even bragged about it in his autobiography.

Well, that explains a lot about today's youth's role models. I had NO idea. Much to everyone's delight, I'm speechless....

**p69rrh51** · February-10-13, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by gnome

And folks wonder how Pine Knob usurped Cobo as the premier concert venue. Roving gangs of black youths in August of 1976 rushed the turnstiles at Cobo and beat patrons at a Average White Band Concert, there were gang rapes on the sidewalk out front ... Judge Gregg Mathis was one of the leaders of the Errol Flynns who beat people with folding chairs.

good job Detroit.

Its been a long time since I have heard about the Flynns. If I remember they were the Earl Flynns. We used to laugh about how ignorant they were. I am glad the judge has been able move beyond his past.

**nain rouge** · February-10-13, 10:48 AM

These teenager punks should've been grateful for the continued governmental and corporate disinvestment in their neighborhoods and enjoyed the congenial atmosphere in downtown that the redirection of funds away from their neighborhood has contributed to.

Shollin · February-10-13, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by nain rouge

These teenager punks should've been grateful for the continued governmental and corporate disinvestment in their neighborhoods and enjoyed the congenial atmosphere in downtown that the redirection of funds away from their neighborhood has contributed to.

Clearly they are the true victims. Next they should take their flash mob to Midtown. They were probably upset because they couldn't write off their mortgage interest on their tax returns.

**illwill** · February-10-13, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Shollin

Clearly they are the true victims. Next they should take their flash mob to Midtown. They were probably upset because they couldn't write off their mortgage interest on their tax returns.

It's already happening in Midtown, just not on this scale. Woodbridge has suffered in recent weeks too. I'm sure it's becoming a trend amongst the youth to tear down the nicer areas of the city. The places they feel they're not able to enjoy or don't feel welcomed.

**Zacha341** · February-10-13, 10:53 AM

I hear that! But their politics don't run that deep - for such a narrative!

But they'll be glad to accept any given excuse. Meanwhile back to the neighborhoods were the joy continues, only momentarily suspended ala the downtown deversion.

Originally Posted by nain rouge

These teenager punks should've been grateful for the continued governmental and corporate disinvestment in their neighborhoods and enjoyed the congenial atmosphere in downtown that the redirection of funds away from their neighborhood has contributed to.

**Bobl** · February-10-13, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by gnome

And folks wonder how Pine Knob usurped Cobo as the premier concert venue. Roving gangs of black youths in August of 1976 rushed the turnstiles at Cobo and beat patrons at a Average White Band Concert, there were gang rapes on the sidewalk out front ... Judge Gregg Mathis was one of the leaders of the Errol Flynns who beat people with folding chairs.

good job Detroit.

It's been a long time, and memory sometimes plays tricks, but wasn't that the concert where virtually every limousine in the metro area was rented by the 'Flynns or B.K.s, for their arrival at the show?

**Drexciya68** · February-11-13, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by gnome

And folks wonder how Pine Knob usurped Cobo as the premier concert venue. Roving gangs of black youths in August of 1976 rushed the turnstiles at Cobo and beat patrons at a Average White Band Concert, there were gang rapes on the sidewalk out front ... Judge Gregg Mathis was one of the leaders of the Errol Flynns who beat people with folding chairs.

good job Detroit.

Do you have any links or more info about that incident?

**gnome** · February-11-13, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Drexciya68

Do you have any links or more info about that incident?

There are a ton, google Average White Band detroit riot, but you can start by reading an old Dyes thread:
http://atdetroit.net/forum/messages/...tml?1201563806

**Zacha341** · February-12-13, 12:23 AM

What was your handle back in those days Gnome? I was not a member back in those days....

Originally Posted by gnome

There are a ton, google Average White Band detroit riot, but you can start by reading an old Dyes thread:
http://atdetroit.net/forum/messages/...tml?1201563806

GUSHI · February-10-13, 09:02 AM

I'm not surprised , probaly no parents in there lives, it's sad, I'm surprised no one got shot, it's somehow probaly the white man fault,

**cla1945** · February-10-13, 09:06 AM

From my reliable source who was there last night, after they rampaged through the stores, they took off for the transit center. A couple of officers were hurt.

I can only equate it to a stampede of while animals trampling on the good citizens who are trying to enjoy what little left Detroit has to offer.

**softailrider** · February-10-13, 09:57 AM

There are people who will not venture into the city under any circumstances. There are people who will come into the city only for big events such as ball games or festivals like the Winter Blast where they deem the situation to be safe. This will change some people into that first group.

Just wait until this makes national news. They eat stuff like this up with a whipped cream and a spoon.

**Wheels** · February-10-13, 10:37 AM

It may be a long HOTTT summer!

**daveyarm** · February-10-13, 10:53 AM

I watched out my apartment window last night, as 15-20 people wandered in groups around the Transit Center, closely monitored by two or three police cars. But I didn't see anything really happen. A little later, a Detroit Police Department bus, escorted by five – six police cars went west on Bagley, obviously heading for a mass arrest site. But I heard or saw nothing further.

**Kathleen** · February-10-13, 10:59 AM

So WDIV covered the action around the Winter Blast perimeter with their story.

And Fox 2 covered the events over near the Transit Center with this story:
Shots fired near bus terminal, police round up teens
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/21...round-up-teens

Saw nothing reported on Channel 7 or either WWJ or WJR radio news.

**gnome** · February-10-13, 11:01 AM

K- want to tell anyone about having your AWB tickets stolen?

Shollin · February-10-13, 11:31 AM

I can't believe I'm reading this. Why don't these juvenile delinquents go to school and get jobs and become productive members of their neighborhoods? My aunt lives at Warren and Chalmers. Her block is destroyed. She does her part by maintaining her property and paying taxes. I should instead tell her to incite a riot downtown and destroy small businesses. I hope Dan Gilbert has a change of heart and moves back to the suburbs and take his light rail with him. They don't want investment downtown, fine. Pull the plug. I'll do them a favor by never going downtown again to Tiger games and the auto show. In fact, I'll start going to more Piston games just because it's in Auburn Hills. Speaking of the Pistons, I'm sure this will go a long way in luring them back downtown.