Detroit college student True Whitsey 18 - fatally shot in front of younger brother

[Zacha341]

Absolutely grim -- another murder of a teen yesterday, only 18, 4.0 GPA, full four-year scholarship student of Ferris State, visiting home for holidays, robbed and killed next to his brother on the cities west side. Shot twice even after he and his brother said they had nothing to give the robbers... beyond sad.

From article:

...His mother boasts of her son's 4.0 GPA all through high school. He had a full, four year scholarship to Ferris State where he planned to study corporate law -- a bright, young mind with the world at his feet.

"That was the worse thing I ever [did] in my life, to identify my baby on the screen," Brown said. "They killed both of my sons. They took one life and messed the other one's mind up. He had to witness his brother's death. It don't get [any] worse than that."

True's baby brother said there was something that will make the shooter easy to find.

"He had a tattoo... on the corner of his right eye."

True's mother is planning a candlelight vigil on Joy and Stahelin Saturday night at 6:45. She wants the entire community to show up and support her son.

True Whitsey was mentored by Detroit City Council President Charles Pugh. He released a statement Friday saying, "He was a well mannered young man with goals. I am heartbroken, and it makes me want to double my efforts to save our city by helping not just those who are college bound... but to catch those in enough time to stop them from being prison bound."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20508058/detroit-college-student-18-fatally-shot-in-front-of-his-brother

[stasu1213]

Absolutely grim -- another murder of a teen yesterday, only 18, 4.0 GPA, full four-year scholarship student of Ferris State, visiting home for holidays, robbed and killed next to his brother on the cities west side. Shot twice even after he and his brother said they had nothing to give the robbers... beyond sad.

From article:

...His mother boasts of her son's 4.0 GPA all through high school. He had a full, four year scholarship to Ferris State where he planned to study corporate law -- a bright, young mind with the world at his feet.

"That was the worse thing I ever [did] in my life, to identify my baby on the screen," Brown said. "They killed both of my sons. They took one life and messed the other one's mind up. He had to witness his brother's death. It don't get [any] worse than that."

True's baby brother said there was something that will make the shooter easy to find.

"He had a tattoo... on the corner of his right eye."

True's mother is planning a candlelight vigil on Joy and Stahelin Saturday night at 6:45. She wants the entire community to show up and support her son.

True Whitsey was mentored by Detroit City Council President Charles Pugh. He released a statement Friday saying, "He was a well mannered young man with goals. I am heartbroken, and it makes me want to double my efforts to save our city by helping not just those who are college bound... but to catch those in enough time to stop them from being prison bound."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20508058/detroit-college-student-18-fatally-shot-in-front-of-his-brother

Stop cutting public safety. Charles Pugh had not spoken out on the rise on crime in the city. The Mayor keep saying that putting a cop in every household does not deter the crime. He is in denial in believing that most of the crime happens on the street. This poor college student didn't know his attacker. The married couple did not the the assailant who had raped the wife in front of the stroke-strcken husband. The woman shoveling the snow in front of her house probably didn't know her rapist. The Mayor has to stop making these stupid statements saying that people have to stop settling their disagreements with guns. Most of the crime is done to those such as the pizza delivery person and cab drivers who don't know there attackers. Pugh and Bing does not want to admit to this openly

[canuck]

Disgusting to the power of 10.

[Zacha341]

I do volunteer work etc. with teens, young adults and the murder of Whitsey really got next to me.

Yeah, folks are being mugged, raped and shot [[day and night) from assailants outside their homes lately - in this cold weather! Makes one wonder what the warm weather will bring? A sailor surviving war came back to visit only to beaten to death and shot in front of a home - his shoes stolen removed from his body:

Sailor, 24, shot and killed on Detroit's west side
Updated: Jan 04, 2013 7:34 PM EST

24 years old and just back from serving our country, Petty Officer Terrence Hill, Junior was shot and killed on Detroit's west side, murdered during an attempted robbery outside of his girlfriend's home on Manor Street just off of Seven Mile.

[corktownyuppie]

Crime is out of hand in the city. The city isn't able to deliver security. At this point, I would be fine allowing any entity, including the state, to deliver security in its place.

Maybe instead of blaming the Mayor or City Council, it's time to go to Lansing and beg for intervention.

[Zacha341]

Yeah the only one benefiting is the funeral parlors and the cemetaries cannot even open grave plots with the ground so cold. Perhaps we'll hear someone yammer on about how 'Crime is everywhere - Detroit's no different' non-sense. Wake up Detroit!!

Crime is out of hand in the city. The city isn't able to deliver security. At this point, I would be fine allowing any entity, including the state, to deliver security in its place.

[stasu1213]

Crime is out of hand in the city. The city isn't able to deliver security. At this point, I would be fine allowing any entity, including the state, to deliver security in its place.

Maybe instead of blaming the Mayor or City Council, it's time to go to Lansing and beg for intervention.

Lansing is the one who is holding back the money which is owed to the city. Lansing doesn't give a damn about the safety of most of the residents of the city. Dave Bing and Chalres Pugh are two weak acting individuals who Lansing had told to kiss it's A$$.

[corktownyuppie]

Lansing is the one who is holding back the money which is owed to the city. Lansing doesn't give a damn about the safety of most of the residents of the city. Dave Bing and Chalres Pugh are two weak acting individuals who Lansing had told to kiss it's A$$.

Oh Jesus Christ. Enough of this. The amount of money Lansing is said to owe Detroit would be spent in less than 9 months with our current budget.

And that's not spending that money on cops.

[313WX]

Oh Jesus Christ. Enough of this. The amount of money Lansing is said to owe Detroit would be spent in less than 9 months with our current budget.

And that's not spending that money on cops.

That post was sarcasm, in poor taste.

[stasu1213]

Oh Jesus Christ. Enough of this. The amount of money Lansing is said to owe Detroit would be spent in less than 9 months with our current budget.

And that's not spending that money on cops.

Let us not forget the money due to the city through unpaid taxes by corporations and intrest groups or persons

[corktownyuppie]

Let us not forget the money due to the city through unpaid taxes by corporations and intrest groups or persons

That's fair. And we should collect every dime we're owed. But still, the important question, even if we had that money, would that money to go to funding more cops? And how long will it last?

We can't throw on any more band-aids. We need to reinvent the whole system.

[313WX]

Crime is out of hand in the city. The city isn't able to deliver security. At this point, I would be fine allowing any entity, including the state, to deliver security in its place.

Maybe instead of blaming the Mayor or City Council, it's time to go to Lansing and beg for intervention.

The problem we have is, the city is too broke to hire enough police officers to implement a NYC method.

At the same time, the city and the state of Michigan also run the risk of lawsuits [[See S.T.R.E.S.S.) by calling in the National Guard, because they WILL violate the constitutional rights of citizens since they're trained for military policing and not civilian policing.

Snyder claims few of his state troopers are patrolling the city. The surrounding communities, due to the recession, are already stretched thin on resources and are not going to patrol Detroit's streets for free either, if at all.

[401don]

I am really shocked by the lack of outrage by everyone from citizen groups to church leaders to the business community [[including the big downtown companies). It seems time to draw attention to this on a national level. Maybe a few interviews on National news broadcasts might get the state to take some action, including asking for help from the Feds. Unfortunately, it will probably take some executive or sports fan from the burbs being shot before the leaders speak out. Do they really think it's better to wait for a trajedy that affects their own wallets?

[stasu1213]

I am really shocked by the lack of outrage by everyone from citizen groups to church leaders to the business community [[including the big downtown companies). It seems time to draw attention to this on a national level. Maybe a few interviews on National news broadcasts might get the state to take some action, including asking for help from the Feds. Unfortunately, it will probably take some executive or sports fan from the burbs being shot before the leaders speak out. Do they really think it's better to wait for a trajedy that affects their own wallets?

Washington probably would like to send grant money to hire more police officers but the Mayor keep saying that the violence are done in the households or due to a dispute between two acquaintances ending in gun battle. He seems to be staving off anymore federal intervention such as money for more polce officers. Dave Bing really want people out of the city so he could do what others want him to do with the land in my opinion.

[Zacha341]

Perhaps Reverend Jackson or Sharpton might drop by?

Bing is wrong and offering an EXCUSE for criminality by saying it is just people who know each other. That is the STANDARD justification like the justification long-stated "Crime is everywhere" is TIRED and useless and mainly UNTRUE!

Further, the police chief stated that "1000" more police would NOT be helpful:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20...all-in-detroit

Washington probably would like to send grant money to hire more police officers but the Mayor keep saying that the violence are done in the households or due to a dispute between two acquaintances ending in gun battle. He seems to be staving off anymore federal intervention such as money for more polce officers. Dave Bing really want people out of the city so he could do what others want him to do with the land in my opinion.

[Shollin]

What the hell were the cops suppose to do? How in the world are the cops suppose to know when this person was going to get robbed and killed? All this bitching about the police and nothing about the criminal. I can go and kill someone and the cops won't prevent me from doing it.

[Meddle]

What the hell were the cops suppose to do? How in the world are the cops suppose to know when this person was going to get robbed and killed? All this bitching about the police and nothing about the criminal. I can go and kill someone and the cops won't prevent me from doing it.

These types of offenders rarely do it just once. They've probably done a number of other things they could have been arrested for prior. Get them for the smaller stuff before they move up the scale.

[Shollin]

These types of offenders rarely do it just once. They've probably done a number of other things they could have been arrested for prior. Get them for the smaller stuff before they move up the scale.

And when they do their 30 days in jail then what?

[canuck]

Well more cops on the streets of Detroit would certainly help. More cops, more cars, more visibility and vigilance. The idea that a thousand more police would not help is ridiculous.

[Jaybiz]

Well more cops on the streets of Detroit would certainly help. More cops, more cars, more visibility and vigilance. The idea that a thousand more police would not help is ridiculous.

It might help short term but if you have violent sociopaths who put absolutely no value on human life and all the money in the world is not gonna help the problem.

[canuck]

It might help short term but if you have violent sociopaths who put absolutely no value on human life and all the money in the world is not gonna help the problem.

Yes but if New York is down to 400 murders a year, there must be something right in increased policing. Sociopaths are shy of daylight like vampires.

Like the vampires in the "Toilet" series of motion pitchers.

[Bham1982]

Yes but if New York is down to 400 murders a year, there must be something right in increased policing. Sociopaths are shy of daylight like vampires.

I agree that an increase in police would help Detroit.

But, in NYC, the police ranks are actually down considerably from previous years. The crime rate has fallen even as the police ranks has shrunken [[and this is in a city with fairly robust population growth).

I think the biggest factor in the NYC crime drops is demographic change within the city. NYC is much richer than in the past, and the "bad areas" are increasingly filled with hard-working immigrants and gentrifying hipsters, not American-born ne'er-do-wells.

But NYC did have a buildup of cops around 15-20 years ago, when the crime rate first began to fall.

[davewindsor]

Well more cops on the streets of Detroit would certainly help. More cops, more cars, more visibility and vigilance. The idea that a thousand more police would not help is ridiculous.

I don't know how a thousand more cops would make a significant difference in the current system. What they need is a thousand more prisons and a three strikes you're out rule. And if they can't afford more prisons, then a three strikes and you get the death penalty rule.

[Meddle]

And if they can't afford more prisons, then a three strikes and you get the death penalty rule.

So, maybe Cuba or Rwanda or Nigeria style? You break law, you die, [[unless you are part of government).

[davewindsor]

So, maybe Cuba or Rwanda or Nigeria style? You break law, you die, [[unless you are part of government).

It would be its own category--Detroit style. I doubt any of those countries would give you a second or even third chance.