Lower East side streets like Beaufait...very old Homes??

**drpoundsign** · November-30-12, 11:52 PM

always obsessed with where the old stuff is. Ellery and all those streets on the lower East side have abandonment to be sure. But some of the homes are from the 1870s! which is a rarity in the D. May be founded in 1701 but it seems Very little antebellum [[pre civil war) or even 19th century stuff left outside Brush Park and Woodbridge, and maybe some stuff around Michigan/Central

What is YOUR take on this?? anyone here Lived in Kettering or Islandview??

**Eric_c** · December-01-12, 10:13 AM

I've lived in Islandview Village on Field between Vernor and Charlevoix Aves since 2004. What would you like to know?

**drpoundsign** · December-01-12, 07:13 PM

simply when were most of the homes built? I assume in a given area most housing goes up at the same time, but that could be wrong

**DetroitHabitater** · December-01-12, 09:06 PM

I'm in corktown and i've found records of my house dating to 1858.....I always like to imagine the owner of my house on the porch hearing the paperboy crying out that fort Sumter has been fired upon.

**corktownyuppie** · December-02-12, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by DetroitHabitater

I'm in corktown and i've found records of my house dating to 1858.....I always like to imagine the owner of my house on the porch hearing the paperboy crying out that fort Sumter has been fired upon.

that's awesome

**drpoundsign** · December-02-12, 11:47 AM

yeah, the Black Bottom and Hastings street area was declared a slum and Lafayette Park and the Chrysler replaced it. The poorest residents went to the Near West Side or were warehoused in the PJs [[which, ironically are now Also abandoned and gone. The Chinatown on Michigan Avenue-by all accounts NOT Slummy at all was torn down in the name of progress

**Lowell** · December-03-12, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitHabitater

I'm in corktown and i've found records of my house dating to 1858.....I always like to imagine the owner of my house on the porch hearing the paperboy crying out that fort Sumter has been fired upon.

What a nice vision!

**Gistok** · December-04-12, 03:11 AM

On another note... here's some images of Mariner's Church in its' original setting...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelgsmith/5765173050/

**poobert** · December-04-12, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

On another note... here's some images of Mariner's Church in its' original setting...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelgsmith/5765173050/

Those storefronts on the church get me every time. A different take on "storefront churches." I wonder when that weirdness went out of vogue.

**Eric_c** · December-02-12, 10:22 AM

Most of the oldest houses were demolished when Lafayette Park, etc. was constructed. The area East of Mt. Elliott in the Villages has homes that mostly date from right around 1890 to 1920, but there are of course some that are older. I know of a few houses from the 1880s.

Here's the oldest home in the Villages, built in 1859: http://m.facebook.com/pages/Moses-W-...433782311&_rdr

**DetroitVideoDaily** · December-02-12, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Eric_c

Most of the oldest houses were demolished when Lafayette Park, etc. was constructed. The area East of Mt. Elliott in the Villages has homes that mostly date from right around 1890 to 1920, but there are of course some that are older. I know of a few houses from the 1880s.

Here's the oldest home in the Villages, built in 1859: http://m.facebook.com/pages/Moses-W-...433782311&_rdr

Thanks for sharing the link. The "flickriver" link on the FB page has some great photos.

Field Street south of Kercheval has had a few older houses burned in the past year, and then demolished. Unfortunate.
-DVD

**drpoundsign** · December-02-12, 11:45 AM

BeYOND Kewl! But the Fisher Freeway carved North Corktown out of Corktown. Probably pretty old, too but it turned into a slum and parts were destroyed in the 67 riots. I understand that Grand River [[?maybe Gratiot too?) had horse drawn street cars a generation before the electric ones.

**swiburn** · December-02-12, 01:05 PM

A Website you may find helpful is Reynolds Farley's Detroit l701. I don't have the exact address but it lists old homes and there is one on Field Street that belonged to the Field family and many others around W. Canfield. Definitely worth your look. I think the oldest surviving house is next to Christ Episcopal Church on E. Jefferson.

JVB · December-02-12, 06:24 PM

Is this the site: http://detroit1701.org/?

**swiburn** · December-02-12, 07:03 PM

Yes, that's the site. I'd call it the definitive site on historical Detroit.

**Gistok** · December-02-12, 09:08 PM

The oldest extant house in Detroit is the 1828 built Sibley House on E. Jefferson near the Dequindre Cut. Nearby is the 1855 built Moross House, oldest brick house in the city.

The oldest surviving neighborhood is the 1830s Corktown. Not sure if any surviving homes go as far back as the 1830s, but one group of rowhouses dating to the 1840s.

The U. S. Grant home, was built in 1847, and was moved to the State Fair Grounds. It's the only former presidential residence in the city.

Other old buildings in Detroit include the 1840s built Fort Wayne [[the Officers Quarters inside the fort dates to about 1848).

Of the old churches of Detroit, the oldest 3 are downtown.... the 1848 St. Peter & Paul Catholic Church, followed by the 1849 built Mariners Church nearby on Jefferson, moved to it's present location from Woodward Ave. in the 1950s, the church tower was a new addition dating to the mid 1950s. The 3rd of the oldest church in Detroit is Fort Street Presbyterian dating to 1855.

Also parts of Trappers Alley [[now Greektown Casino) date to the 1850s.

There are other parts of old Detroit that are antebellum, perhaps others can add to this list...

FYI... the oldest building extant in Michigan is the Officers Stone Quarters at Fort Mackinac [[on Mackinac Island), built 1780.

**Honky Tonk** · December-02-12, 09:14 PM

Ste. Anne de Détroit, founded July 26, 1701,^[2] is the second oldest continuously operating Roman Catholic parish in the United States.

**poobert** · December-02-12, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Ste. Anne de Détroit, founded July 26, 1701,^[2] is the second oldest continuously operating Roman Catholic parish in the United States.

The building isn't nearly that old. The parish is the "congregation" and administration that has occupied several different buildings as St. Anne's Parish.

**Gistok** · December-02-12, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

The building isn't nearly that old. The parish is the "congregation" and administration that has occupied several different buildings as St. Anne's Parish.

He did say "parish"... they're on their 8th church now [[1887). But their records date to 1704 [[just after the first Ste. Anne's burned down). But parts of a previous Ste. Anne's Church [[from 1818) can be found in the newest one.

**Honky Tonk** · December-02-12, 09:33 PM

"... they're on their 8th church now [[1887)."

! What are they doing in there?!?!?

**p69rrh51** · December-02-12, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

The building isn't nearly that old. The parish is the "congregation" and administration that has occupied several different buildings as St. Anne's Parish.

Interesting reading on the current church building.

**p69rrh51** · December-02-12, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Gistok

The oldest extant house in Detroit is the 1828 built Sibley House on E. Jefferson near the Dequindre Cut. Nearby is the 1855 built Moross House, oldest brick house in the city.

The oldest surviving neighborhood is the 1830s Corktown. Not sure if any surviving homes go as far back as the 1830s, but one group of rowhouses dating to the 1840s.

The U. S. Grant home, was built in 1847, and was moved to the State Fair Grounds. It's the only former presidential residence in the city.

Other old buildings in Detroit include the 1840s built Fort Wayne [[the Officers Quarters inside the fort dates to about 1848).

Of the old churches of Detroit, the oldest 3 are downtown.... the 1848 St. Peter & Paul Catholic Church, followed by the 1849 built Mariners Church nearby on Jefferson, moved to it's present location from Woodward Ave. in the 1950s, the church tower was a new addition dating to the mid 1950s. The 3rd of the oldest church in Detroit is Fort Street Presbyterian dating to 1855.

Also parts of Trappers Alley [[now Greektown Casino) date to the 1850s.

There are other parts of old Detroit that are antebellum, perhaps others can add to this list...

FYI... the oldest building extant in Michigan is the Officers Stone Quarters at Fort Mackinac [[on Mackinac Island), built 1780.

The oldest home in Detroit is the Trowbridge House built in 1826. Enclosed is the final report on the home.

**Gistok** · December-03-12, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by p69rrh51

The oldest home in Detroit is the Trowbridge House built in 1826. Enclosed is the final report on the home.

Right house, wrong name... I always remember it as the house that is only still 1/2 there...

And I did say 1828... that's the date for the Territorial Court House [[later State Capitol 1837-47). There is NOTHING left from the first 1 1/4 centuries of Detroit's history.

**PCN** · December-03-12, 06:06 AM

The oldest house built in Detroit is in Canada!

http://parkhousemuseum.com/
The Park House is an early example of Pièce sur Pièce log construction and is said to have been built in the 1790s at the mouth of the Rouge River in Detroit. When Detroit was ceded to the United States, the owners decided to dismantle the building and float it down the Detroit River to Amherstburg.