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    Quote Originally Posted by Detroitnerd View Post
    Well, how convenient. You've found a tool you can use to disregard an idea. Sort of like a blinder. Very well, then. I hope it serves you well and helps you to feel somehow superior.
    I just think generalizations are generally a bad idea, and racial generalizations are particularly counterproductive. I don't mean to discount your opinion of those types of people, but I've just always found it better to judge people individually rather than using their skin color or where they live to make assumptions about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Detroitnerd View Post
    You know what? Frank Rizzos are extremely unwilling to look at their own viewpoints and examine them. You might just be a Rizzo after all.
    On the contrary, I would love to hear an argument that challenges my viewpoint. I think people should be judged individually, not according to their skin color or where they live [[or don't want to live, for that matter). If you have a persuasive argument as to why I shouldn't do that, I'd love to hear it. I'm always willing to learn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVB View Post
    I just think generalizations are generally a bad idea, and racial generalizations are particularly counterproductive. I don't mean to discount your opinion of those types of people, but I've just always found it better to judge people individually rather than using their skin color or where they live to make assumptions about them.
    Please don't blame me for thinking that this is all fancy footwork in an effort to avoid dealing with something real.

    The first thing you should understand is that this whole idea of a Frank Rizzo is not a blanket racist statement. It is, in fact, a blanket term for a certain kind of white suburban racist.

    If it is offensive to you to have a label for a type of suburban white racist -- in the name of not labeling people by the color of their skin -- then worry about this no further. You see, it is the content of Frank Rizzo's character we are concerned with. He happens to be white, much in the same way the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan happens to be white.

    Now, another thing about Frank Rizzos: They don't live in the city. They live in the suburbs, usually choosing a suburb that is majority white. Of course, Frank wouldn't put it quite that way. He'd discuss the "good schools" and "property values" and "low crime" and "families" in his neighborhood. But Frank has a problem with Detroit. All Frank Rizzos, to one extent or another, hate Detroit -- and blame Detroit for the condition it is in. They also all refuse to help Detroit in any way.

    That's the profile, really, in a nutshell.

    We don't judge Frank on being white. He happens to be white.

    We don't judge Frank on living in the suburbs. Lots of decent people live in the suburbs.

    We judge Frank on his narrow-minded racist views, the coded racist language he uses, and his refusal to examine the ugliness his convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVB View Post
    I just think generalizations are generally a bad idea, and racial generalizations are particularly counterproductive. I don't mean to discount your opinion of those types of people, but I've just always found it better to judge people individually rather than using their skin color or where they live to make assumptions about them.



    On the contrary, I would love to hear an argument that challenges my viewpoint. I think people should be judged individually, not according to their skin color or where they live [[or don't want to live, for that matter). If you have a persuasive argument as to why I shouldn't do that, I'd love to hear it. I'm always willing to learn!
    No one should be judged individually or collectively!!!

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