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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Just give me a working plan for recovery now that we're staring bankruptcy in the face.
    To be honest, if you think there is a realistic "working plan for recovery" besides bankruptcy, you're really not serious about saving Detroit and have another agenda.

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    "you're really not serious about saving Detroit and have another agenda"

    @ least I had the la-la-land part pegged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    "you're really not serious about saving Detroit and have another agenda"

    @ least I had the la-la-land part pegged.
    Ok, but tell that to the 40% of Detroiters who plan to leave with the Consent Agreement in effect.

    And guess what their reason for leaving is?

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    Don't tell me it's because of Dave Bing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Don't tell me it's because of Dave Bing.
    I doubt it. Chicago's population decline has slowed, if not stabilized despite its rampant political corruption.

    But Bing's reforms definitely added more icing to the cake.

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    Where do I sign?

    Seriously, im still pissed at him over what he allowed to happen to Tiger Stadium. He refused to get involved stating that he would not get involved with issues of the previous administration.

    Well screw him, I want him out. The sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAUDE G View Post
    Where do I sign?

    Seriously, im still pissed at him over what he allowed to happen to Tiger Stadium. He refused to get involved stating that he would not get involved with issues of the previous administration.

    Well screw him, I want him out. The sooner the better.
    tiger stadium was demoed in July of 08, KK was escorted out in September 08; Bing took office a full year later with a special election, then held on to the post in '10.

    Hating on Bing for Tiger Stadium is a tad unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    I doubt it. Chicago's population decline has slowed, if not stabilized despite its rampant political corruption.

    But Bing's reforms definitely added more icing to the cake.
    Slowed? Chicago lost 200,000 people last census. Except for the 90's, Chicago has experienced steady population decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shollin View Post
    Slowed? Chicago lost 200,000 people last census. Except for the 90's, Chicago has experienced steady population decline.
    Ok, so since 1990, Chicago has lost a whopping 4% of its population [[I imagine mostly due to the real estate bubble) which I'm pretty sure will flip back positive again by 2020. Also, its Metro Area has grown by 15% since 1990.

    Meanwhile, Detroit has lost 31% of its population since 1990, with no end in sight for its population decline. Meanwhile, its Metro Area has lost 2% of its population since 1990, and there's no telling what the 2020 numbers will show between Detroit'a aging population and the fact that 48% of its college educated younger folks continue to flee the region.
    Last edited by 313WX; November-11-12 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrytimes View Post
    If he's recalled and Pugh takes over, you have a guy that's more worried about his abs than the city, so what are you really improving on?
    I have no problem with him working on his abs. In fact, it's been my experience that those who feel the need to constantly point out his workout, are generally in need of some exercise themselves.
    It's these same people who seem to have no problem with spending even more money that Detroit does not have just to end up with yet another Mayor that these very same people will complain and gripe about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    Ok, so since 1990, Chicago has lost a whopping 4% of its population [[I imagine mostly due to the real estate bubble) which I'm pretty sure will flip back positive again by 2020. Also, its Metro Area has grown by 15% since 1990.

    Meanwhile, Detroit has lost 31% of its population since 1990, with no end in sight for its population decline. Meanwhile, its Metro Area has lost 2% of its population since 1990, and there's no telling what the 2020 numbers will show between Detroit'a aging population and the fact that 48% of its college educated younger folks continue to flee the region.
    Yeah, anyone that attempts to compare Detroit's population decline with Chicago is really grasping for straws.

    I would be interested, however, to see how Chicago's young professional population increased compared to Detroit's. I get the sense that Chitown has always had a steady force of recent college grads, while Detroit's went up by, what 50% since 2000? [[Granted, I know it's starting from near-zero, but...)

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