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  1. #26

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    There's no need to speculate. They want nukes to threaten other nations into allowing them to take over South Korea. They've been saying they want to take the country over for almost 60 years now. It why they've been armed to the teeth despite constant UN efforts.

    What would Obama do if Il-Jong said get out of South Korea or we'll launch a nuke a Japan? Japan does have a limited military because we have promised to protect them from foreign invaders. Do we walk away? How do you think their long time enemy Japan will respond if such a threat is made? Can we stop or blame our trading partner and ally if they want a military build-up then? How about Russia that once controlled Korea? You think they'd concede land to the North Koreans if threatened or lash out instead? What if China fears continued expansion? There's plenty of weapons, war history, and racism between Japan, China, Russia, and Korea to make it a very real possibility that the region could go to hell in a hand basket really fast.

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    There post #24 has been edited. Please respond to the question at the top.

    I'm not even sure how to find Rush. I watch more British and Canadian news than American news. I watch PBS, the History Channel, TLC, and the Discovery Channel. My views are based on the history and geography I get from them and various other sources.

    To use your analogy, Yes, I get very touchy about those that even suggest criminals arming themselves to kill cops are simply protecting themselves. Thats all we are in the region, an honorable sheriff.
    Last edited by mjs; June-29-09 at 10:47 PM.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Took the bait I see, thanks MJS. I knew someone would turn logic upside down and blame these developments on the label.

    It carries weight when the President says it, not when David Frum does.
    LOL.... cc... I can't believe you just uttered this last sentence....

    Would it carry more weight when the words are...

    "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
    or
    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
    or
    "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"
    or
    "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office."

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjs View Post
    Please explain how the Obama administration is a bigger threat than the previous eleven administrations?
    I never said it is. The North Koreans have been playing these cat and mouse games, to some extent, ever since the end of the Korean War. Its only been in the last decade or so that we started taking these threats more seriously since they've made it known they want to produce nuclear weapons.

    The NK government seems to be very flamboyant in their actions, remember a few years back when they fired a rocket over the head of Colin Powell when he was in Japan as our Sec. Of State? I've read in history books that during the negotiations with the U.S. on a cease fire, in the 50's that they made the chairs that American's sat in shorter than their NK counterparts.

    We know they wont win in a war against our superior fire power, so they are looking for any kind of leverage they feel that will help them in new negotiations.

  5. #30
    Lorax Guest

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    "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on --shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
    or
    "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
    or
    "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"
    or
    "I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office."


    LOL!! Way to go, Gistok!

    Thanks for those lovely chestnuts from our Dumbander in Chief, or is it Commander in Thief, George Tush.

    Can you imagine if Obama came out with such Benzadrine driven rehetoric? The bar was set so low with Tush, it was kind of expected that he wasn't all there. Obama is of such a superior intellect, that even one of those statements would end his presidency.

    Thanks for the memories!

  6. #31
    4real Guest

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    It didn't matter what Bush did,
    the lying libs would attack him just to try to make him look bad and them good.
    He freed the Iraqis from a mass terrorist dictator.

    Obama seems to really chum up with all the fascists in the world.

  7. #32
    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    It didn't matter what Bush did,
    the lying libs would attack him just to try to make him look bad and them good.
    He freed the Iraqis from a mass terrorist dictator.

    Obama seems to really chum up with all the fascists in the world.
    LOL!!!!

    Which rock have you been living under? Bush needs no help making himself look bad- did you read the above quotes? LOL!!!! There's dozens more where they came from. Did you watch TV in the last 8 years?

    My personal favorite: "Mens across America are just trying to put food on their families."

  8. #33
    cheddar bob Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    He freed the Iraqis from a mass terrorist dictator.
    Except the innocent civilians that were killed. What were they freed from? Life?

  9. #34
    DetroitDad Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    It didn't matter what Bush did,
    the lying libs would attack him just to try to make him look bad and them good.
    He freed the Iraqis from a mass terrorist dictator.

    Obama seems to really chum up with all the fascists in the world.
    Maybe, but you wouldn't have undecided people and Republicans speaking ill of him. He really made himself look bad, and was a disgrace to the Grand Old Party.

    As to the original topic, Bush was right in pointing out the obvious. For that he hardly deserves any praise. Bush also used the obvious to terrorize and control his own people, for that he deserves to be viewed by the history books as the tyrannical leader that he was.
    Last edited by DetroitDad; June-30-09 at 10:37 PM.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    It didn't matter what Bush did,
    the lying libs would attack him just to try to make him look bad and them good.
    He freed the Iraqis from a mass terrorist dictator.

    Obama seems to really chum up with all the fascists in the world.

    Why don't you provide a source for your lies?

    Could it be that you are a troll, as me suspects?

  11. #36
    ccbatson Guest

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    Proof? Easy, now that Obama is President, the victory in Iraq is a good thing and not subject of further attacks on GWB. Number 2? Hello, Saddam is out for good. Fascists are his friend like Chavez, Castro, the ousted president of Honduras and the Iranian regime.

  12. #37

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    Hitting the bottle tonight, Bats?

  13. #38
    Lorax Guest

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    Perhaps it's Batjuice, rather than alcohol. I hear it packs quite a wallop.

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    Yes I remember the old days where Obama and Castro were kicken it and drinking Mojitos...afterword on their infamous road trips to Tehran, Obama would lite up a cigar and ask Castro to explain that socialism thing again...just in case he fools the FBI with his birth certificate and is able to run for the presidency...

    I am sure glad he out grew out of that Armanutjob, he was always such a downer with that Armagedden droning... we always thought; that he was such a buzz kill. There is nothing more repulsive than our president hanging with an Iranian dictator spewing inflated and made up history and denying reality...but hey you know those socialists and middle-easterners stick together.

  15. #40
    ccbatson Guest

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    You libs haven't been paying attention to the video and audio from these chums together and individually when discussing each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    You libs haven't been paying attention to the video and audio from these chums together and individually when discussing each other.
    Checked under your bed before going to sleep tonight?

  17. #42
    Lorax Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by jams View Post
    Checked under your bed before going to sleep tonight?
    Not before he goes up to the attic and has a lengthy discssion with the portrait of himself- the one he keeps draped in velvet, that's beginning to show it's age.

  18. #43
    ccbatson Guest

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    Odd comments Lorax...and easily construed as a personal attack against me, don't you think?

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