7 shot following Detroit Princess riverboat moonlight cruise

**Zacha341** · August-06-12, 06:44 AM

From article:
FOX 2's Al Allen reports hundreds of people were aboard the Detroit Princess for a moonlight cruise Sunday evening sponsored by local radio station Hot 107.5.

Allen says an argument broke out onboard as the boat was docking early Monday morning. He says pushing and shoving led to gunfire both onboard and onshore.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19...cess-riverboat

**EASTSIDE CAT 67-83** · August-06-12, 07:20 AM

Madness....

**ejames01** · August-06-12, 07:32 AM

Women are doing drive by shootings now? SMH

**Zacha341** · August-06-12, 07:57 AM

This is not going to bode well for DP. There have been other problems on their cruises and dockings. Word to the wise for the older [[or sane) crowd is to 'avoid' any and ALL cruises involving 'DJ Nights' such as Hot 107.5.

I took some friends for a cruise one night and it was a bit too wild for my taste... though not insane as this turned out.

Best times are on the day cruises with a very large company or organization who can book and somewhat control the clientele, style of music and theme of a WHOLE deck.

Originally Posted by ejames01

Women are doing drive by shootings now? SMH

**corktownyuppie** · August-06-12, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

This is not going to bode well for DP. There have been other problems on their cruises and dockings. Word to the wise for the older [[or sane) crowd was to avoid any and ALL cruises involving 'DJ Nights' such as Hot 107.5.

I took some friends for a cruise one night and it was a bit too wild for my tastes... though not insane as this turned out.

Best times are on the day cruises with a very large company or organization that can book and somewhat control the clientele,style music and theme of a WHOLE deck.

Key words...

"...an argument broke out onboard as the boat was docking early Monday morning...pushing and shoving led to gunfire...."

I don't know what to do or say. It doesn't matter how many cops are out on the streets. How do we teach people that the arguing ==> shoving ==> shooting model of behavior is self-destructive?

**Danny** · August-06-12, 08:27 AM

This is Detroit, you can hear gunshots when you leave your house. I've been through that scenario. I once sas a gunman shooting a stray dog in my northwest side ghettohood in the middle of the night back in the 1990s. There's nothing I can do about it. It just happens. There will be more gunshots and other shootings in the ghettohoods of Detroit until all of the communities and our leaders wake up and smell reality.

**Alley** · August-06-12, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Danny

This is Detroit, you can hear gunshots when you leave your house. I've been through that scenario. I once sas a gunman shooting a stray dog in my northwest side ghettohood in the middle of the night back in the 1990s. There's nothing I can do about it. It just happens. There will be more gunshots and other shootings in the ghettohoods of Detroit until all of the communities and our leaders wake up and smell reality.

Or, until everyone succeeds in killing eachother!

**MidTownMs** · August-06-12, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

This is Detroit, you can hear gunshots when you leave your house. I've been through that scenario. I once sas a gunman shooting a stray dog in my northwest side ghettohood in the middle of the night back in the 1990s. There's nothing I can do about it. It just happens. There will be more gunshots and other shootings in the ghettohoods of Detroit until all of the communities and our leaders wake up and smell reality.

You don't have to leave your house to hear gunshots.

**rb336** · August-06-12, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by corktownyuppie

Key words...

"...an argument broke out onboard as the boat was docking early Monday morning...pushing and shoving led to gunfire...."

I don't know what to do or say. It doesn't matter how many cops are out on the streets. How do we teach people that the arguing ==> shoving ==> shooting model of behavior is self-destructive?

What kind of 'merican are you? our founding fathers argued, shoved and shot the English out of our country. Then they did the same to those heathen Indians and their dinosaurs

**socks_mahoney** · August-07-12, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by rb336

What kind of 'merican are you? our founding fathers argued, shoved and shot the English out of our country. Then they did the same to those heathen Indians and their dinosaurs

Rakiba? is that you?

**Scottathew** · August-06-12, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by corktownyuppie

I don't know what to do or say. It doesn't matter how many cops are out on the streets. How do we teach people that the arguing ==> shoving ==> shooting model of behavior is self-destructive?

I agree.

We've got a really big issue here when so many arguments escalate so quickly.

How do we fix it? Education targeting low-income folks? I'm making the assumption that these folks are low-income...

**kenp** · August-06-12, 08:39 AM

The shooter is still at large, get her, and throw her in the river.
What sucks about these kinds of shootings is that the shooter doesnt really care who they hurt, they just start shooting. Must have been one pissed off lady.

**Detroitej72** · August-06-12, 09:07 AM

I'm sure the fight was over something very important, like somebody felt they were disrespected.

What a bunch of low life scum.

**SWMAP** · August-06-12, 09:28 AM

This behavior is what killed Bob-Lo Island Amusement Park. Sane people would not go on the boats and be quarantened with all the unsupervised and scary Detroit teens. Bob-Lo owners tried having more boats from docks outside of Detroit - but grown-ups and families were still unwilling to be stuck on the island with teen-agers who didn't know how to act.
When the owners wanted to get out, no one would think of buying the island and upgrading the amusements. So Detroiters lost a nice venue. One of so many.

**Goose** · August-06-12, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by SWMAP

This behavior is what killed Bob-Lo Island Amusement Park. Sane people would not go on the boats and be quarantened with all the unsupervised and scary Detroit teens. Bob-Lo owners tried having more boats from docks outside of Detroit - but grown-ups and families were still unwilling to be stuck on the island with teen-agers who didn't know how to act.
When the owners wanted to get out, no one would think of buying the island and upgrading the amusements. So Detroiters lost a nice venue. One of so many.

belle isle ring a belle????

**Hermod** · August-06-12, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by SWMAP

This behavior is what killed Bob-Lo Island Amusement Park. Sane people would not go on the boats and be quarantened with all the unsupervised and scary Detroit teens. Bob-Lo owners tried having more boats from docks outside of Detroit - but grown-ups and families were still unwilling to be stuck on the island with teen-agers who didn't know how to act.
When the owners wanted to get out, no one would think of buying the island and upgrading the amusements. So Detroiters lost a nice venue. One of so many.

The very same problems that killed Jefferson Beach and Edgewater Park amusement venues.

**mikefmich** · August-06-12, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hermod

The very same problems that killed Jefferson Beach and Edgewater Park amusement venues.

I know that in my teen years, I used to have to sneak to Edgewater on a east-west bus 'cause my folks didn't like me going there due to the 'ruffian' rep it started to get.

But to the best of my memory, they didn't have that BS going on at Jefferson Beach. I went there a lot with my folks when I was a tyke, and kept on going until the fires came, and they just converted it to marina space which was more valuable, and sold off the frontage to the Burkemo's folks.

**313WX** · August-06-12, 10:37 AM

What can you do?

**Zacha341** · August-06-12, 10:46 AM

Well for one, I've always thought security was a bit lax on the DP. But that would not have stopped a nut case from coming off the boat and returning with a gun. The horror of that moment of gun fire! Bad! I used to go down late at night to the water front and watch the DP depart and dock just for view. I guess I best rethink that...

Originally Posted by 313WX

What can you do?

**313WX** · August-06-12, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Well for one, I've always thought security was a bit lax on the DP. But that would not have stopped a nut case from coming off the boat and returning with a gun. The horror of that moment of gun fire! Bad! I used to go down late at night to the water front and watch the DP depart and dock just for view. I guess I best rethink that...

Yeah, but turning the Detroit Princess into a third world experience will only discourage customers from going on the cruise, and as a result we'll lose it.

**Zacha341** · August-06-12, 11:07 AM

You mean as in too many so-called gerry springer 'bouncer' types in view? Um, too late for that. They already have those on board from what I've seen my few times on it. Not enough of them it can be argued...?

Originally Posted by 313WX

Yeah, but turning the Detroit Princess into a third world experience will only discourage customers from going on the cruise, and as a result we'll lose it.

**MidTownMs** · August-06-12, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Yeah, but turning the Detroit Princess into a third world experience will only discourage customers from going on the cruise, and as a result we'll lose it.

What exactly is a third world experience and what does that have to do with what happened in Detroit?

**313WX** · August-06-12, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by MidTownMs

What exactly is a third world experience

First off, when you go grocery shopping, you can't take your cart to the vehicle as metal bars have been put up.

When you go to a store or gas station, you must do business with the clerk through a bullet-proof glass while security cameras are all over watching your every move.

When you go to a Family Dollar, a voice recording says "this location is being monitored for your safety" repeatedly.

Finally, when you leave, a security guard has to check your receipt and rummage through your entire bag.

As far as getting onto the Princess, it will mean, at the very least, going through metal detectors just to access the boat like you would an Airplane.

**Zacha341** · August-06-12, 11:03 AM

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...=2012120806018

The freep provides more detailed in that the shooting was off the boat:

...The altercation apparently began as an argument aboard the boat, Quinn said. Radio One Detroit's station Hot 107.5, which plays hip hop and rap, was hosting the its On Deck Sunday Moonlight Cruise. The event is touted on the boat's Facebook page as a nightclub atmosphere on a cruise from 10:30 p.m. to 12:30 a.m. The Detroit Princess also provides a DJ for the cruise, playing softer music on the boat's top deck.

"It looks like a group of people were getting in some kind of fight," said Quinn. "When they got back to shore, a female who was involved in the fight got into her car, drove back...and then she shot into the crowd of people who were getting off the boat."

"It looks like a group of people were getting in some kind of fight," said Quinn. "When they got back to shore, a female who was involved in the fight got into her car, drove back...and then she shot into the crowd of people who were getting off the boat."

Keith Gillespie, the assistant promotions director with Radio One Detroit, was just getting off the boat when the shooting happened. He ran back onto the riverboat and shut the door until the the gunfire stopped.

"As I was walking out the door, I heard some commotion with some women and gunshots rang out," Gillespie said today, adding that he immediately called a Detroit Police officer who is a friend and happened to be patrolling nearby. "It was real scary because people started running in every direction."

Gillespie said he opened the door again when one of the victims started knocking loudly, yelling he'd been hit. When the shooting ended, they discovered three women laying in the grass with wounds to their legs.

"After I realized there were more people down, I called [[police) and told them ... we needed more ambulances," said Gillespie, 45, of Royal Oak. He and others used tablecloths from the boat to hold pressure on the women's wounds.

"My mind said this could be somebody's mother, my mother -- I’d want somebody to stop and help her," he said.

The suspect drove off. A description of her or her car was not immediately available, Quinn said.

Detroit Princess owner and Captain John Chamberlain said everyone who boards the boat -- about 500 for Sunday's cruise -- is checked for weapons. Chamberlain, who has operated riverboats for 35 years, said this was the first time he's experienced a shooting incident near one of his boats."

**Lowell** · August-06-12, 11:03 AM

Just listening to Angelo Henderson show a few minutes ago and the foxdetroit report is inaccurate. The difference is significant even if it does not diminish the tragedy.

The fight began on the boat. The perpetrator left the boat, got her gun and fired at the victims as they exited the boat.

Headline amended to read, "7 Shot FOLLOWING Detroit Princess Riverboat Moonliit Cruise".

Otherwise how could the perp have escaped?