2 bodies found on Detroit's east side; Westland teens?

**Meddle** · July-27-12, 11:10 AM

Detroit police said the bodies of two men were found this morning in a field on the city’s northeast side. Police said a person called police to report the bodies at about 9:45 a.m. at Lyford and French roads at 9:45 a.m. today.

Police would not say if the bodies are those of two teenagers from Westland who have been missing since Sunday.

Jacob Kudla, 18, and Jourdan Bobbish, 17, were reported missing after failing to return Sunday from visiting Kudla's uncle in Detroit, Jake's mother, Virgie Kudla, 49, said Wednesday.

http://www.freep.com/article/2012072...h-bodies-found

**gazhekwe** · July-27-12, 11:16 AM

Sad, but I've been expecting it.

**Bham1982** · July-27-12, 11:16 AM

Very sad. The families must be devastated.

These young men went looking for trouble, and found it.

Doesn't mean they're terrible people, but it's obviously extremely dangerous to be wandering about with cash and drugs, and interacting with folks in the drug trade.

It is strange how the bodies were found near City Airport, while the car was on the West Side.

**313WX** · July-27-12, 11:20 AM

Are the good citizens of Detroit now going to be demonized more by suburbanites because of what happened to these boys?

**Bham1982** · July-27-12, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Are the good citizens of Detroit now going to be demonized more by suburbanites because of what happened to these boys?

It does kinda confirm stereotypes of danger in certain locales, but these boys weren't innocent babes in the woods. Westland, for that matter, isn't exactly the safest place around, though it's safer than Detroit.

I do detect a bit of racial bias in some of the reporting. These kids are portrayed differently, I think, than if they were two black teens in the drug trade.

**iheartthed** · July-27-12, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

I do detect a bit of racial bias in some of the reporting. These kids are portrayed differently, I think, than if they were two black teens in the drug trade.

And that's an understatement.

Shollin · July-27-12, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Are the good citizens of Detroit now going to be demonized more by suburbanites because of what happened to these boys?

Probably until the next bodies are found

**Zacha341** · July-27-12, 12:00 PM

I'm still waiting for Sharpton/ Jackson et al to arrive regarding all of the teens that have already been murdered in Detroit over the last 24 months... *Sarcasm* ...

Violence commit by and upon youth is increasing! This case is going to get more interest as they were not from Detroit, that's just a fact.

Originally Posted by 313WX

Are the good citizens of Detroit now going to be demonized more by suburbanites because of what happened to these boys?

**artds** · July-27-12, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Are the good citizens of Detroit now going to be demonized more by suburbanites because of what happened to these boys?

No, but they may demonize you for being more concerned with image than life at a time like this, and rightfully so.

**313WX** · July-27-12, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by artds

No, but they may demonize you for being more concerned with image than life at a time like this, and rightfully so.

I do think what happened to the boys is unfortunate.

**coracle** · July-27-12, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

I do think what happened to the boys is unfortunate.

Fucking "unfortunate"!!!? You could not be more condescending. Two beautiful young men visiting their uncle on a Sunday in Detroit are robbed and shot in the head by murdering arsehole[[s); and you think it's "unfortunate"!!!?

**Meddle** · July-27-12, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by coracle

Two beautiful young men visiting their uncle on a Sunday in Detroit are robbed and shot in the head ...

Visiting their Uncle? Or doing a drug deal? Or maybe some of both.

**Hypestyles** · July-27-12, 11:44 AM

.... what about all this talk about an alleged "uncle" on the east side? has this "person" been clearly identified at all?
has the family admitted to knowing that the boys had a habit or were dealing?

**aoife** · July-27-12, 11:51 AM

The family knew their son smoked pot- he had a medical marijuana card. From what the article said, it seems that they were carjacked after visiting their pot growing relative. It explains why they were found near City Airport and their car turned up on the westside. I would assume they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time until other evidence surfaces to say otherwise. It is not like carjackings are rare around here. Either way, whether they were carjacked or just being stupid teenagers and buying drugs from the wrong people [[the right people being a licensed pot shop) it is terribly sad for their families.

**artds** · July-27-12, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by aoife

The family knew their son smoked pot- he had a medical marijuana card. From what the article said, it seems that they were carjacked after visiting their pot growing relative. It explains why they were found near City Airport and their car turned up on the westside. I would assume they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time until other evidence surfaces to say otherwise. It is not like carjackings are rare around here. Either way, whether they were carjacked or just being stupid teenagers and buying drugs from the wrong people [[the right people being a licensed pot shop) it is terribly sad for their families.

I dunno if its as simple as that. There were those reports of multiple residents reporting a guy firing a gun into the air outside of the apartment complex yelling "Jacob!" There's some weird stuff going on here.

**GoGrixdale** · July-27-12, 11:58 AM

Anyone seen talk to the pot dealing uncle since the bodies were found?

Bashara-esque feeling.

**Detroitnerd** · July-27-12, 12:11 PM

We don't know anything, and everybody has a theory. How interesting that the theories hew so closely to individual prejudices!

Finding bodies in "drop zones" is an old Detroit thing, going back to Prohibition days. City Airport may be one of today's.

Shollin · July-27-12, 12:13 PM

I thought the uncle lived at 7 Mile and Hoover? City airport isn't far from there. They were droped a couple blocks west of Van Dyke. It's only about 2-3 miles from where they were supposedly at.

**TKshreve** · July-27-12, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Shollin

I thought the uncle lived at 7 Mile and Hoover? City airport isn't far from there. They were droped a couple blocks west of Van Dyke. It's only about 2-3 miles from where they were supposedly at.

I will invite anyone to take a google stroll through that portion of the city where they found the bodies. Not very nice at all, and if those boys were still alive when they were taken to that area, they must have known what was about to happen.

There is strong evidence in the two articles which suggests that these two were not engaging in shady transactions with strangers. In fact, it appears at first glance that they were just "passing through" Detroit. Rolling the dice, if you will. They must have stopped somewhere I would assume. Even a red light is enough time to get jacked.

Great to see the thugs in Detroit holding up their end of the bargain. Shoot first, then steal peoples shit. Chalk up another two.

**poobert** · July-27-12, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by TKshreve

There is strong evidence in the two articles which suggests that these two were not engaging in shady transactions with strangers. In fact, it appears at first glance that they were just "passing through" Detroit. Rolling the dice, if you will. They must have stopped somewhere I would assume. Even a red light is enough time to get jacked.

What "strong evidence"? That their relative says they weren't? That isn't strong evidence.

I feel a bit guilty that I suspect this was more than just a "wrong place, wrong time" scenario but it seems to be more than that. Bashara-esque is right.

**TKshreve** · July-27-12, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

What "strong evidence"? That their relative says they weren't? That isn't strong evidence.

The article was quoted saying:

She said the teens picked up marijuana from a relative and were headed home when they were last seen on the city’s east side.

If this is true [[and it has a very likely chance of being true) then who else would they have purposely come in contact with? Unless they we're turning around and slinging it in someone's territory, I don't see very many other ways in which the boys would have instigated this situation.

**Detroitnerd** · July-27-12, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by TKshreve

If this is true [[and it has a very likely chance of being true) then who else would they have purposely come in contact with? Unless they we're turning around and slinging it in someone's territory, I don't see very many other ways in which the boys would have instigated this situation.

I'd say, as a west-sider, that it's pretty easy for west-siders used to grids and mile roads to get disoriented and lost on the east side...

**softailrider** · July-27-12, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by TKshreve

I will invite anyone to take a google stroll through that portion of the city where they found the bodies. Not very nice at all, and if those boys were still alive when they were taken to that area, they must have known what was about to happen.

There is strong evidence in the two articles which suggests that these two were not engaging in shady transactions with strangers. In fact, it appears at first glance that they were just "passing through" Detroit. Rolling the dice, if you will. They must have stopped somewhere I would assume. Even a red light is enough time to get jacked.

Great to see the thugs in Detroit holding up their end of the bargain. Shoot first, then steal peoples shit. Chalk up another two.

I'm not so sure about that. Two young guys in a car, not what I would call great candiates for a car jacking.

Shollin · July-27-12, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by TKshreve

I will invite anyone to take a google stroll through that portion of the city where they found the bodies. Not very nice at all, and if those boys were still alive when they were taken to that area, they must have known what was about to happen.

There is strong evidence in the two articles which suggests that these two were not engaging in shady transactions with strangers. In fact, it appears at first glance that they were just "passing through" Detroit. Rolling the dice, if you will. They must have stopped somewhere I would assume. Even a red light is enough time to get jacked.

Great to see the thugs in Detroit holding up their end of the bargain. Shoot first, then steal peoples shit. Chalk up another two.

I took a Google stroll through there and my little orange guy was shot and robbed.