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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    ^^^^^

    You should stick to your First amendment right to defend your Second amendment right to bear arms.

    Philosophizing is not your strong suit.
    Sorry buddy no moral ground when it comes to guns when is comes to a country that removes guns from its citizens but has no qualms about placing them smack dab in the middle of every atrocity in the world.


    According to a CBC News analysis, over the past decade Canada has shipped more than $28 million worth of Canadian-made guns and rifles to Saudi Arabia — this country's second largest weapons customer after the U.S.

    The apparent presence of such rifles in Yemen's battlefields, and how they got there, raises difficult questions for the Canadian government.
    For one, the weapons may be pressed into service in a civil war that has killed some 3,000 civilians, destroyed infrastructure, displaced 2.5 million people and left an already acutely poor nation on the verge of widespread famine.

    Canadian-made weapons may have fallen into the hands of Houthi fighters in Yemen's civil war, raising new concerns about Canada's arms exports to Saudi Arabia.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...abia-1.3455889

    We are Canada,we do not want them nasty guns killing our own citizens but we like the dollars they bring when they are exported in order to kill everybody else’s men women and children.

    Seems a bit hypocritical eh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Sorry buddy no moral ground when it comes to guns when is comes to a country that removes guns from its citizens but has no qualms about placing them smack dab in the middle of every atrocity in the world.


    According to a CBC News analysis, over the past decade Canada has shipped more than $28 million worth of Canadian-made guns and rifles to Saudi Arabia — this country's second largest weapons customer after the U.S.

    The apparent presence of such rifles in Yemen's battlefields, and how they got there, raises difficult questions for the Canadian government.
    For one, the weapons may be pressed into service in a civil war that has killed some 3,000 civilians, destroyed infrastructure, displaced 2.5 million people and left an already acutely poor nation on the verge of widespread famine.

    Canadian-made weapons may have fallen into the hands of Houthi fighters in Yemen's civil war, raising new concerns about Canada's arms exports to Saudi Arabia.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...abia-1.3455889

    We are Canada,we do not want them nasty guns killing our own citizens but we like the dollars they bring when they are exported in order to kill everybody else’s men women and children.

    Seems a bit hypocritical eh?


    So the use of guns is reprehensible to you, now? I thought it was alright to own them in your republic and this was a prerequisite in the spread of democracy.

    For a while there, I thought you had cellphones and trucks in your sights foremost as purveyors of senseless deaths.

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    ^ no what is reprehensible to me is a country that removes guns from thier citizens but yet sends them out the back door to our enemies,I thought I made that clear.

    I wonder how your military members feel when they are shot by weapons provided for by thier own country?

    You forget that our Republic has a thing called a constitution,it prevents our government from forcing us from laying down and forced the abide,I realize that concept is tough for others who are already under thier total government control of every aspect of thier life.

    Should you not be in the kitchen making some sandwiches for the school children? But see how that carries over to providing weapons to children of other countries,only the strong children are allowed to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ no what is reprehensible to me is a country that removes guns from thier citizens but yet sends them out the back door to our enemies,I thought I made that clear.

    I wonder how your military members feel when they are shot by weapons provided for by thier own country?

    You forget that our Republic has a thing called a constitution,it prevents our government from forcing us from laying down and forced the abide,I realize that concept is tough for others who are already under thier total government control of every aspect of thier life.

    Should you not be in the kitchen making some sandwiches for the school children? But see how that carries over to providing weapons to children of other countries,only the strong children are allowed to survive.

    Funny. You armed the Taliban in the eighties and Bin Laden could easily have paid for all that stuff back in the day. Then you spent all these years in Afghanistan and got shot by your armament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Funny. You armed the Taliban in the eighties and Bin Laden could easily have paid for all that stuff back in the day. Then you spent all these years in Afghanistan and got shot by your armament.
    Yes we arm the world,heck the Obama administration made sure the Mexican cartels had plenty of weapons and nobody batted an eye.

    The point that you keep avoiding is that we arm the world but we also protect the rights of our citizens to arm themselves.

    You guys cry,bad guns and restrict your own citizens from owning them while also arming the world,all the while pretending to have the higher moral ground.

    How do you tell your citizens that they cannot protect themselves while slipping weapons out the back door to every other country in the world so they can arm thier citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yes we arm the world,heck the Obama administration made sure the Mexican cartels had plenty of weapons and nobody batted an eye.
    Carrying on a program initiated by Bush/Cheney.

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    Too bad he [[Obama) did not stop it...

    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    Carrying on a program initiated by Bush/Cheney.
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Yes we arm the world, heck the Obama administration made sure the Mexican cartels had plenty of weapons and nobody batted an eye.
    Last edited by Zacha341; October-10-19 at 08:52 PM.

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    Last edited by Zacha341; October-08-19 at 08:48 AM.

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    Actually two different programs,the bad part was they already knew the results of the first one But yet still went ahead in trying it again.

    The report also clearly shows that Fast and Furious began under the Obama administration, dating its inception to October 2009. [[Obama took office in January 2009.) This directly contradicts Obama’s claim.

    https://www.politifact.com/florida/s...gan-under-bus/

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    Project Gunrunner was started in 2006. There were two different operations under the program - wide receiver and fast and furious. Both had the same goals and were run by the Phoenix ATF and US Attorney's Office.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Actually two different programs,the bad part was they already knew the results of the first one But yet still went ahead in trying it again.

    The report also clearly shows that Fast and Furious began under the Obama administration, dating its inception to October 2009. [[Obama took office in January 2009.) This directly contradicts Obama’s claim.

    https://www.politifact.com/florida/s...gan-under-bus/

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    ^^^ Perhaps he forgot that pesky detail!

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    This morning my artificially ignorant voicemail system played back a voicemail then asked "Do you want to delete this message?"

    I responded "No."

    Then the cheerful robot said "Okay. Deleting message!"

    Arrrrrrgh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    This morning my artificially ignorant voicemail system played back a voicemail then asked "Do you want to delete this message?"

    I responded "No."

    Then the cheerful robot said "Okay. Deleting message!"

    Arrrrrrgh!
    Thats almost as bad as telling the phone to call Mike and it says calling Cindy.

    We are just the test bed for technology.

    I am starting to miss the 3 party phone line.

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    Makes one want to go back to the tape cassette model. Well almost...

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    When I hear of all the problems with voice response systems, I can't help but laugh thinking about this....

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ry=TBBT+kripke

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    Unlike the other children of a sociopathic President, I think Eric Trump has unfairly been thrown under the bus for being stupid, Ala SNL. Prove otherwise.

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    Use the control in the upper left corner to change viewing direction.

    If You Could See Every Satellite, What Would The Sky Look Like? 360/VR

    There are over ten thousand satellites in orbit, but only the largest ones in low earth orbit are visible in the hours just after sunset. What would the sky look like if you could see everything in space? I took satellite data and rendered a view of the night sky for an 'average' viewer in North America.

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    A starting point for fighting global warming:

    Without arguing the extent and politics of global warming-

    Young children should be taught that they can have all the healthy food they want but not to ask for more than they can eat. There should be consequences for leaving food on the plate that they took or asked for beginning with no dessert. Its a small thing, a starting place, that teaches moderation and self discipline. Explain to them when they are in 2nd. grade and their teachers are already scaring them about the hell fires of global warming that they can contribute to ecological sanity by not wasting food.

    Hopefully, teaching small children to separate their satisfied needs from all of their wants will someday make them less likely to buy big houses, too many optional flights, and other stuff that all contributes to global warming.

    I don't see how non Chamber of Commerce conservatives could argue with moderation. Teaching personal responsibility might have a potentially huge effect on global warming and pollution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    A starting point for fighting global warming:

    Without arguing the extent and politics of global warming-

    Young children should be taught that they can have all the healthy food they want but not to ask for more than they can eat. There should be consequences for leaving food on the plate that they took or asked for beginning with no dessert. Its a small thing, a starting place, that teaches moderation and self discipline. Explain to them when they are in 2nd. grade and their teachers are already scaring them about the hell fires of global warming that they can contribute to ecological sanity by not wasting food.

    Hopefully, teaching small children to separate their satisfied needs from all of their wants will someday make them less likely to buy big houses, too many optional flights, and other stuff that all contributes to global warming.
    I take no issue w/this; but would ask, are you then in favour of market-signals that reduce excess consumption by pricing it?

    Let's leave a carbon tax out, for the moment.....

    Road Tolls? Car insurance by the mile? How about prohibiting excessive bulk discounts that encourage gluttany? As an example, a 1.5oz bag of chips at almost the same price as an 8oz one; people then buy the larger one, and often eat the whole thing. What if you capped the bulk discount for food at 30% the larger the size got? Or imposed a tax that got progressively higher on larger portions? Same for soft drinks.

    What about prohibiting fast food combos all together? I've noted here in Toronto that if you went into a local fast food place and decided that I shouldn't have those fries, so I'll order only the drink and the burger; you pay the exact same price as with the fries!

    What about making sure water is fully priced [[not subsidized by taxes?); what about shifting state subsidies for power plants or home heating fuel to conservation, for homeowners or landlords, the state will pick up 20% of the tab if you put in double-glazed windows or increase the R-Value of insulation?

    Should high fuel consumption vehicles face a surcharge tax at purchase?

    What about the same idea based on axle weight?

    Just curious about how serious you are about conserving resources; discouraging waste and facilitating responsible choices?

    I don't see how non Chamber of Commerce conservatives could argue with moderation. Teaching personal responsibility might have a potentially huge effect on global warming and pollution.
    I'll wager they'd be highly opposed to your idea. Presuming your idea was effective, it would reduce grocery basket size and fast food order size. That would would be bad store comps year over year and lower profits.

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    CV, My post had to do with teaching children moderation as a way of addressing global warming. You are to some extent promoting government penalties to do the same.

    We already have sin taxes bringing in revenue from alcohol, tobacco and gambling. Taxing soda pop as being unhealthy wouldn’t be much different.

    Nor am I opposed to some of your suggested transfer of taxes. One estimate is that the U.S. spends $81B/year protecting foreign oil supplies. That is a hidden oil subsidy of $11.25/barrel. I don’t know what Europe, Japan and other countries pay to protect their sources of oil but since the U.S. is largely oil independent, transferring the annual $81B from our income tax and other taxes to the gas pump as a use tax would encourage EV’s and alternative domestic energy. Better yet, we should let other countries pay their share so we wouldn't have so much of a subsidy or tax expense. Airline passengers could pick up the cost of building airports. Subsidies distort the market. Changes would create havoc but they could be made over a period of years.

    After Al Gore lost, he became involved with setting up market for carbon tax credits. While he was telling Americans the world was going to end, he was scheming to profit from their fears. I would rather end government subsidies to cut taxes or the federal debt than make market decisions.Otherwise we get more Solydras.

    We do need to raise taxes if neither the President nor Congress will cut spending even before considering all the new trillion$ of programs being proposed by Democrats. The Simpson-Bowles Commission recommended doing both to reduce deficits and the federal debt. I would prefer import taxes to the extent we need to raise taxes but our need for increasing taxes is so great that luxury taxes would be better than more middle class income taxes.

    I agree that any successful effort to teach moderation would displease not only private but some government lobbies.
    Last edited by oladub; November-25-19 at 09:00 PM.

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    I'm not arguing moderation, but how does a small child KNOW how much they can eat?
    Most of the time with young children, it's the parent who fills the plate, assuming THEY know how much he/she can eat. If the child is still hungry after they finish that plate and ask for more and are given too much, how is that their fault? Also, by telling a child they have to "clean their plate" before they get dessert you are teaching them to overeat to get a reward.
    Last edited by jcole; November-24-19 at 08:10 AM.

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    To my best knowlage, Art cars are the best. This is my nomination for the best art bike. I have been following this guy for ten years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnr6uGIV8no

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    Simultaneously depressing and hilarious: your neighbor's deflated inflatable snowman, grinning.

    We should just call them deflatable snowmen.

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    But then they get inflated at night, like a lot of men...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    But then they get inflated at night, like a lot of men...
    So the preferred method is to deflate them during the day for easy storage?

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