Quote Originally Posted by Shollin View Post
Midtown didn't have a market. Ferndale and Royal Oak were dying suburbs. The lofts came before Whole Foods and Starbucks. I guess I hear yuppies talking about how they want culture, diversity, and walk ability, but the areas most dense and most diverse city doesn't appeal to them.
When were Ferndale and RO ever dying suburbs? By whatever standard you're going to use to define them as dying what exactly would you consider Hamtramck to be in its current condition?

I think some people have a way too rosy view of Hamtramck.
I've noticed an increasing amount of uncivil/brutish behavior. I use to say that Hamtramck is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. It's increasingly becoming a place that I don't even want to vist.

Whenever I'm in Hamtramck what strikes me is the amount of litter. Whether it's Joesph Campau, many of the neighborhoods or parks there just doesn't seem to be enough civic pride in keeping the city clean.