Republicans' Replacement Healthcare Plan

[oladub]

Obamacare, as you like to call it, IS Romneycare. First hatched by Nixon, later embellished by the Heritage Foundation, and attacked by the modern GOP because they never had the balls to implement it themselves.

When you come out attacking ideas of Nixon and The Heritage Foundation as socialist, you end up looking like a kook.

gp, You're altogether too into calling names tonight. please point out where I attacked ideas of Nixon as a socialist to retain some of your credibility. I never mentioned the Heritage Foundation. You did. Romney care is not Obamacare. They are similar but one is run by a State and the other by the Federal government which is a huge difference to me. I would characterize Nixon as having corporatist tendencies, as sort of an early neocon, but not as a socialist were you to have asked.

[ghettopalmetto]

gp, You're altogether too into calling names tonight. please point out where I attacked ideas of Nixon as a socialist to retain some of your credibility. I never mentioned the Heritage Foundation. You did. Romney care is not Obamacare. They are similar but one is run by a State and the other by the Federal government which is a huge difference to me. I would characterize Nixon as having corporatist tendencies, as sort of an early neocon, but not as a socialist were you to have asked.

The Affordable Health Care Act, the one you know and love for its individual mandate, was based on ideas proposed by Richard Nixon in the 1970s. You'll note that Candidate Obama opposed such a mandate in 2008 when it was part of Hillary Clinton's proposed health care reform.

According to Harvard Law professor Einar Elhauge, however, the idea for an individual health insurance mandate dates to 1790.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/healthcare/Individual-mandate-traced-to-our-founding-fathers.html

That's fact, regardless of what you've convinced yourself. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[oladub]

The Affordable Health Care Act, the one you know and love for its individual mandate, was based on ideas proposed by Richard Nixon in the 1970s. You'll note that Candidate Obama opposed such a mandate in 2008 when it was part of Hillary Clinton's proposed health care reform.

According to Harvard Law professor Einar Elhauge, however, the idea for an individual health insurance mandate dates to 1790.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/healthcare/Individual-mandate-traced-to-our-founding-fathers.html

That's fact, regardless of what you've convinced yourself. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

First you are accusing me of calling Nixon a socialist without supporting evidence and now you are going on about Nixon again. Is Nixon tonight's theme?. What is it with Harvard "Constitutional scholars"? Seaman had been impressed into the British Navy when captured, they worked in proximity of the US Navy, and as recently as when I was a seaman [[Great Lakes only) there was a law that would fly back US sailors who got drunk and didn't make it back to their ships in time for free*. The law explained that seamen were considered "childlike". More importantly, only the federal government is delegated with war powers, foreign commerce, and foreign relations all of which effect seamen. I really don't see how being impressed into the British navy, getting caught up in crossfires, and foreign considerations is related to Obamacare. Sailors, during a war might as well be part of the Navy except without all the weapons.

I hope you don't run into a US embassy and claim that because sailors get free flights that you should too if you missed your flight not that it would make any less sense than the Harvard "constitutional scholar"*.

[ghettopalmetto]

First you are accusing me of calling Nixon a socialist without supporting evidence and now you are going on about Nixon again. Is Nixon tonight's theme?. What is it with Harvard "Constitutional scholars"? Seaman had been impressed into the British Navy when captured, they worked in proximity of the US Navy, and as recently as when I was a seaman [[Great Lakes only) there was a law that would fly back US sailors who got drunk and didn't make it back to their ships in time for free*. The law explained that seamen were considered "childlike". More importantly, only the federal government is delegated with war powers, foreign commerce, and foreign relations all of which effect seamen. I really don't see how being impressed into the British navy, getting caught up in crossfires, and foreign considerations is related to Obamacare. Sailors, during a war might as well be part of the Navy except without all the weapons.

I hope you don't run into a US embassy and claim that because sailors get free flights that you should too if you missed your flight not that it would make any less sense than the Harvard "constitutional scholar"*.

If at first you don't succeed: obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate.

When are you going to address FACTS relevant to your opinion?