Protesters disrupt financial review board hearing in detroit

Buy American · March-26-12, 05:34 PM

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/P...z/-/index.html

Racial slurs, white supremacy comments; "before we let you take over Detroit, we will BURN IT DOWN FIRST"....

I don't want an EM, I don't want bankrupcy, I don't want a Consent Agreement for Detroit, but this kind of rhetoric is encouraging people to disobey the law, it's encouraging them to start more fires, it's encouraging them to go after "whitey".

The City of Detroit has not been managed correctly for years. The administration has not done it's due dilligence. The "elected" officials that the people of the City of Detroit voted for have not done their jobs and most of them have raped and pillaged the city until the coffers are dry. This is not the States' doing, this is Detroit's doing.

Since when has Detroit become a separate entity? Since when has it become "owned" strictly by blacks? What the hell are people talking about when they make this a black/white thing. I have said it all along...some Detroiters don't want what they perceive as "white" Lansing to come in and try to salvage what's left of Detroit. They would rather see it go into an even deeper decline than it is today than to let Lansing help.

Detroiters are not receiving services like police or fire, garbage pickup, street lighting, parks are not being maintained, yet they think it can be handled from within....by whom??? No one has done a thing to stop this from happening and some have committed felonies while managing Detroit. thug KK is a perfect example, Monica Conyers, Sam Riddle...and the list goes on. If the black people who "own" Detroit want respect and want to be heard, don't threaten to BURN THE CITY DOWN.

One thing is certain...it's going to be a long, hot summer.

**Detroit_uke** · March-26-12, 05:41 PM

I could not believe I was hearing what I heard...I saw it on the news.......it twisted something in my gut. granted...I've ONLY been a Detroiter for 50+ years...but makes me want to leave today...right now....

**401don** · March-26-12, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Detroit_uke

I could not believe I was hearing what I heard...I saw it on the news.......it twisted something in my gut. granted...I've ONLY been a Detroiter for 50+ years...but makes me want to leave today...right now....

I'm not a Detroiter so I won't pretend to know how it makes you feel but do you really believe these few nutcases are representative of the average Detroiter who is, hopefully, a lot more like you?

**Detroit_uke** · March-26-12, 06:05 PM

I couldn't believe that the protestors, who are also Detroiters, therefore my "neighbors" felt this way.....When the initial shock wore off I reminded myself that this was indeed a small group. I am glad that their words were captured on film, the internet, the press, facebook and what have you....What they said on camera is going to change alot of their relationships...I really have to digest all of this. That is not how one acts at a meeting. Especially when there is a group trying to help your city.

Buy American · March-26-12, 06:18 PM

Surely this group of protesters spewing this venom can't represent all of Detroit.

What a shame though, that this is what is on the news for all to see. This is what some who live outside the city think the entire city of Detroit is like. This is what keeps people away and makes people afraid to come. I wouldn't want any of those protesters living next door to me.

Ultimately, this is what will kill Detroit, not Lansing. The mindset of some Detroiters is that the city belongs to them and they don't want outside help. Joann Watson is big on that premise. The pastors of all the churches in Detroit, real and otherwise, who don't pay a dime of taxes are all behind this kind of movement. Maybe Bing should start making the churches pay taxes, then the pastors would have more say and the City would make more money.

**poobert** · March-26-12, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

Surely this group of protesters spewing this venom can't represent all of Detroit.

No, there are plenty of good people here. However as the city has emptied out things seem to have polarized. On one hand, you have the die-hards who love the city and want to stay here.

Then you have this. The dregs of humanity. The uneducated, the lazy, shiftless, the scrap metal thieves, the baby killers, the trash strewn all over the lawn, loud music at all hours, the junkies and alcoholics. While they may make up a majority, these anti-social elements make up a HUGE population of the city because they're the ones with the means or intelligence to move [[unless that means squatting houses). The perpetual under-class [[largely by their own design, in many cases). As a normal person in this city you feel increasingly isolated surrounded by these animals. So the normal people continue to leave [[who wants to live next to these pieces of human garbage?)...and these people make up an ever-increasing population of the city.

**downtownguy** · March-26-12, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

The pastors of all the churches in Detroit, real and otherwise, who don't pay a dime of taxes are all behind this kind of movement.

But thank goodness you're not prone to hyperbole, BuyAmerican.

**gazhekwe** · March-26-12, 06:19 PM

It seems the presenters at the meeting need to be prepared to establish order and provide a structured environment for comment. What a maelstrom!

Buy American · March-26-12, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by gazhekwe

It seems the presenters at the meeting need to be prepared to establish order and provide a structured environment for comment. What a maelstrom!

Had Andy Dillon or any white person on that board tried to establish order by asking security to remove the loud protestors or the rude protestors or the swearing or insulting protestors, they all would have pulled out that big RACE CARD and the meeting would have exploded.

**Flintoid** · March-26-12, 06:33 PM

These people are not Detroit. They are a vocal minority and just that. They should be ignored and at best laughed at.

**antongast** · March-26-12, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by gazhekwe

It seems the presenters at the meeting need to be prepared to establish order and provide a structured environment for comment. What a maelstrom!

This. Public meetings in Detroit on controversial issues are always kind of chaotic, and this shouldn't be any sort of surprise anymore.

Originally Posted by 48091

I once spoke out at a Warren city council meeting about a subject. I was one of the few sane people that wanted to shut down an old outdoor pool that had a temporary dome put on it during winter. The pool was used by few, but cost tons of money.

That was a nice pool. I miss it.

**gazhekwe** · March-26-12, 06:41 PM

Review board members present:

Andy Dillon
Frederick Headen
Conrad Mallet, Jr.
Isaiah McKinnon
Glenda Price
Irving Reid
Doug Ringler
Shirley Stancato
Brom Stibitz

**Scottathew** · March-26-12, 06:41 PM

It's sad.

There have been people who have shown up in support of a state intervention, however, they are treated most harshly by the crowd.

I once spoke out at a Warren city council meeting about a subject. I was one of the few sane people that wanted to shut down an old outdoor pool that had a temporary dome put on it during winter. The pool was used by few, but cost tons of money.

When I came up to the microphone and stated my opinion I got booed, harassed, and interrupted. A sitting council person even questioned me about how long I lived in the city [[because I was in my mid-20s at the time).

These people at this meeting are probably not representative of the majority of people in Detroit. However, through their uncivilized behavior they've created an atmosphere where the only opinions that can be stated are their own. That is the democracy they want, the one where only they get to speak and all others are drowned out and threatened.

Don't let these people anger you, the vast majority of folks want solutions, the minority of folks want to shout, stir, and whine.

Buy American · March-26-12, 06:44 PM

^^^How can a person NOT pay attention to this minority group when their actions are plastered all over the evening news? If you didn't know Detroit and saw this type of action, you'd be scared to death to visit or move there.

**Scottathew** · March-26-12, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

^^^How can a person NOT pay attention to this minority group when their actions are plastered all over the evening news? If you didn't know Detroit and saw this type of action, you'd be scared to death to visit or move there.

I agree it's very, very prominent in the media. However, the media LOVES to paint Detroit in this way, because it sells papers and raises ratings.

I find it frustrating, especially the race-card allegations, but let's just keep things in perspective, with the perspective beings that most folks in Detroit probably don't agree with the vocal minority.

Warren has had the same shenanagians at council meetings, with the vocal minority whining and crying at every single meeting because their trash can was broken, or their rec center was closed, or their constitutional right to swim in the winter time in an outdoor pool underneath a temporary dome was violated.

**j to the jeremy** · March-28-12, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

^^^How can a person NOT pay attention to this minority group when their actions are plastered all over the evening news? If you didn't know Detroit and saw this type of action, you'd be scared to death to visit or move there.

And the evening news is owned by...companies in the suburbs...I wonder why they push this narrative...

**Wesley Mouch** · March-28-12, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by j to the jeremy

And the evening news is owned by...companies in the suburbs...I wonder why they push this narrative...

When Detroiters act like fools in public at perilous times, it is news indeed. And it should be covered. It just shouldn't have happened. But if it happens at an important public hearing, and it reflects the feelings of many residents, oh boy, it is so news. Thank Allah we have suburban media moguls to expose this.

Buy American · March-28-12, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by j to the jeremy

And the evening news is owned by...companies in the suburbs...I wonder why they push this narrative...

It's always someone elses fault, right?

**Wesley Mouch** · March-28-12, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

It's always someone elses fault, right?

Nomination for most concise post of the day. Could apply to 90% of the posts on DY.

**gumby** · March-28-12, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by j to the jeremy

And the evening news is owned by...companies in the suburbs...I wonder why they push this narrative...

Like I stated earlier in the thread. The media wouln't report it if it didn't happen. Stop playing the poor me card when it comes to media coverage. I have seen many positive news stories covering the good that happens in Detroit as well.

**Hermod** · March-26-12, 06:50 PM

When 700,000 people in Detroit want 9-plus million people in Michigan to bail them out of the hole that they dug themselves into, a little bit of "Please" or "could you possibly" or "Kind gentlemen" might go a long way.

**Patrick** · March-26-12, 06:55 PM

About 40 seconds into the video, some fool decided to keep it real and held up a can of Arizona Iced Green Tea and a bag of Skittles...because the killing of a black youth in Florida has everything to do with Detroit's current financial situation.

GUSHI · March-26-12, 07:04 PM

Wow-what is a mostly white city in mi, had some of it's residents say shit like that, what a fkd up double standard, it not their city, it's eveyones city, race card, give me a fkn break, the president is black, with out whites the city would be in worst case than it really is, annex downtown, let these people have the rest of the city, the waste lands,,,,,

**Wesley Mouch** · March-26-12, 07:22 PM

Protesters use this technique BECAUSE IT WORKS! They learned it from 'By Any Means Necessary'.

Protesters are mostly not ignorant. In fact, they're quite smart. They know what works.

**Wheels** · March-26-12, 07:12 PM

"before we let you take over Detroit, we will BURN IT DOWN FIRST"....

Seems like that has been the plan for the last 40 years or so. It is time for a new plan.