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  1. #101
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    The return of the spelling police. ALways prone to appear when the content of the argument is difficult to refute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    Don't forget the urban terrorists who plaque this and many other countries
    who ruin communities wherever they go.

    2007 Murders 16,929; Forcible Rapes 90,500+; Violent crimes 1,400,000 +
    what is amazing is how much the crime rates for all crimes skyrocketed after dubya ended the clinton police financing plan.

  3. #103
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    Once again Rb...where are you getting these numbers? Out of thin air? Your imagination?

  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Once again Rb...where are you getting these numbers? Out of thin air? Your imagination?
    Probably here, Batts. A little humility might suit you better.



    EnlargeFile photo by Charles Dharapak, APRep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., the bill's sponsor, argued that the COPS program, when it was in full force in the 1990s, was an "unqualified success."




    WASHINGTON [[AP) β€” The House approved money Thursday to help local police departments hire and retain 50,000 officers over the next five years, expanding a Clinton-era community policing program that struggled to survive under the Bush administration

  5. #105
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    Finally, I got Rb to post a complete argument. I never doubted your claim, but decided to try to get you to complete your case for once...your welcome...can you keep it up now?

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    The Southern Poverty Law Center has been tracking a social networking site called NewSaxon, it's a sort-of Facebook for Neo-Nazis:

    http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?s...&article=63650

    Of primary concern to the SPLC is the fact that many of the Nazi white supremacists on this site are active-duty members of the U.S. military.

    β€œIn the wake of several high-profile murders by extremists of the radical right, we urge your committees to investigate the threat posed by racial extremists who may be serving in the military to ensure that our armed forces are not inadvertently training future domestic terrorists,” Morris Dees, SPLC co-founder and chief trial counsel, wrote to the legislators.

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    Quote: "The Southern Poverty Law Center has been tracking a social networking site called NewSaxon"

    40 people.. Hardly a movement or trend. It's probably a joke anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    Quote: "The Southern Poverty Law Center has been tracking a social networking site called NewSaxon"

    40 people.. Hardly a movement or trend. It's probably a joke anyway.
    So how many terrorists did it take on 9/11 to change the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstashmoo View Post
    40 people.. Hardly a movement or trend. It's probably a joke anyway.
    Oh yeah, because espousing Nazi ideology on a neo-Nazi website is just HILARIOUS! Is that how you get your jollies? You are a SICK individual if you think that. What your NewSaxon profile name? I'd like to check out your profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jams View Post
    So how many terrorists did it take on 9/11 to change the world?
    It only took two disgruntled and radicalized Gulf War veterans to bring down the OKC federal building. Just two.

  11. #111
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    Better, at least WolverineA2 is on track now as identifying these individual's as individuals.

    911 was a coordinated and organized plan by Al Qaeda under OBL....not the same thing as OKC. We can, at least, generalize 911 to radical islamic terrorism.

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    Having seen the devastation in OKC first hand and having a friend work both as a psychologist for the red cross and a first responder treatment specialist [[we have explored this many times)...it does bare in mind the terror and evil can evolve from small groups of terrorists to large movements..but in the end they are influenced by hate filled ideology and the results are the same..innocents dead.

    ...many of our domestic terrorists are heavily influenced by the hate that permeates out of fear of others, false patriotism, thinking one group of people is better than another...all claim to be doing this to preserve the union....etc...

    the only thing they preserve is death and destruction fueled by hate. There is really no justification for this type of evil...even though we may uncover their motives and in their minds are fighting for their beliefs..they are evil in their delivery...

    terrorism is terror when it is state sponsored or by loose groups of people..it all ends in the same results- dead people.
    Last edited by gibran; July-12-09 at 12:34 PM.

  14. #114
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    Big difference in threat from a handful of militant skin heads [[fascists), and at least 100 million radical islamists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Big difference in threat from a handful of militant skin heads [[fascists), and at least 100 million radical islamists.
    there you go with that absolutism again...
    100 million ..did you do the census door to door or did are you quoting Goldberg again?

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    and didn t you call liberal fascists...I'm getting really confused...Chomsky a fascist? or am i mistaking you for 4real or misquoting you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    Big difference in threat from a handful of militant skin heads [[fascists), and at least 100 million radical islamists.
    LOL!!!

    "...a handful of militant skinheads..." I really want to make somthing out of this, but my milder nature prevails.

    Must be Batt's frat reunion.

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    Quote: "Oh yeah, because espousing Nazi ideology on a neo-Nazi website is just HILARIOUS!"

    Well that is your ignorance of the sense of humor some of our military folks have. They do some awefully screwed up stuff in the name of humor. Think AbuGharaib.

    Quote: "Is that how you get your jollies? You are a SICK individual if you think that. What your NewSaxon profile name? I'd like to check out your profile."

    Ahh the internet, everyone is invited

  19. #119
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    10 percent [[conservatively) of Muslims by polls hold radical beliefs. Fortunately, not all of them will act on these beliefs.

  20. #120
    Lorax Guest

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    Guess we can now add Cheney to this list of right wing terrorists.

    It's about time. No thinking person ever had any doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    10 percent [[conservatively) of Muslims by polls hold radical beliefs. Fortunately, not all of them will act on these beliefs.
    kinda like the folks who support Sarah Palin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    10 percent [[conservatively) of Muslims by polls hold radical beliefs. Fortunately, not all of them will act on these beliefs.
    I would ad that probably 10% of supposed Christians hold radical beliefs as well. Think back to Eric Rudolph, Tim McVie, the kkk, and most other white supremest and militia groups claim to be Christian.

  23. #123
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    Never seen numbers yo support that claim for Christians, but I have for Muslims.

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    I would say .01 from the ADL..would consider themselves radical and generally this is even to high for their liking...

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    Here's another one! I wouldn't call him a terrorist, but definitely a Right Wing violent nutjob.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/oukoe_uk_..._q91m2E7MDW7oF

    Micky Mayon, a member of the KKK and Aryan Brotherhood, was arrested in Israel. Mayon was wanted for a variety of racist assaults and firearms charges and was one of the FBI's 100 Most Wanted Fugitives. He also set fire to the car of the judge overseeing his criminal trial. He was living illegally in Israel before he was arrested by Israeli police because he thought it "would be the last place people would look" for him, as he was an anti-semite who espoused white power ideology.

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