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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This country will be fantastic when we have a singular wealthy king to rule over us peasants.
    ...and Lord knows wealthy people become wealthy because they're smarter and work harder than the rest of us. Therefore, we should just do whatever they tell us to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    ...and Lord knows wealthy people become wealthy because they're smarter and work harder than the rest of us. Therefore, we should just do whatever they tell us to do.
    And to think, Newt didn't do better in the Iowa caucuses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    ...and Lord knows wealthy people become wealthy because they're smarter and work harder than the rest of us. Therefore, we should just do whatever they tell us to do.
    That conjures up Leona Helmsley... and the little people...

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    The "surplus" will be used to justify the next big tax break for businesses, the elimination of the personal property tax. Local governments and schools will take another massive hit while the state politicians run around patting themselves on the back and lining up more EFMs to take over the next round of communities to fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    The "surplus" will be used to justify the next big tax break for businesses, the elimination of the personal property tax. Local governments and schools will take another massive hit while the state politicians run around patting themselves on the back and lining up more EFMs to take over the next round of communities to fall.

    That's because socialism is bad, but oligarchy is good!

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    "I can agree with some of that... but it's the things like the Historic Tax Credit and Brownfield tax credit whose severe curtailment disproportionately hurts Detroit."

    Historic-rich Grand Rapids has really benefited a great deal through the HP/BF credits. Funny, GR is considered a Republican flagship, yet they had no problem revitializing that City through the people's money.

    I guess now they got theirs, nobody else needs theirs, eh?

    That's the Republican Way ...

  7. #57

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    I wonder if this was a tit for tat. The automobile companies would say "we will give you billions for a surplus if you cancel plans for the light rail

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by stasu1213 View Post
    I wonder if this was a tit for tat. The automobile companies would say "we will give you billions for a surplus if you cancel plans for the light rail
    You're aware the automakers sell their cars in places other than Detroit, right? Just checking....

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    They had to find a way to give Detroit the 220m ,if they pulled it elsewhere the rest of the state would have flipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    You're aware the automakers sell their cars in places other than Detroit, right? Just checking....
    Their headquarters are here in Michigan. Michigan as to be the poster child of a totally car dependent state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stasu1213 View Post
    I wonder if this was a tit for tat. The automobile companies would say "we will give you billions for a surplus if you cancel plans for the light rail
    This is the best conspiracy theory ever. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    Interesting that you chose to quote the staffer of a politician, rather than this FACTUAL statement:
    After pasting, I realized I didn't even know whose words they were. Didn't matter. I was only quoting an idea. [[And I find it odd that you, Ghetto, suggest that a staffer is less quotable.)
    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    A Senate Fiscal Agency study released in December estimated the state's general fund ended the year with a $242 million surplus, and the school aid fund ended with $645 million surplus.
    The report credited the resurgence of the U.S. auto industry for aiding the state's recovery.

    What did the "responsibility" of Michigan Republicans have to do with salvaging the auto industry?
    They have no 'responsibility' whatsoever for the auto industry recovery. The point was that by managing affairs well during hard times, they're building a climate where hard-working, intelligent and capable people will be able to get get jobs in Michigan in the future. This is how job creation is really done. State government should manage its affairs, and should not be trying to 'create jobs'. Just ran the State well, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stasu1213 View Post
    Their headquarters are here in Michigan. Michigan as to be the poster child of a totally car dependent state.
    Don't get me wrong. I am pro GM, Chrysler, and Ford, I am glad that american made cars are selling more than the imports. The big 3 should have a role in the redeveloping of this city. I just don't want some backroom deal made to make this city more car dependent and shutting out anyone who would rather use mass transit as their means of transportation. Many people who move here from the east coast would rather travel that way.

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