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    Default Metro Detroit-Windsor Kmart / Sears Closings?

    Any speculation locally?

    Sears Will Close 120 Stores as Sales Fall
    Sears Holdings Corp. said Tuesday it will close 100 to 120 of its full-line Sears and Kmart stores as it struggles to attract shoppers. Sales for the fourth quarter are off a disappointing 5.2 percent compared with last year.

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    Locally? As far as I know there are no Sears or Kmart in Detroit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidTownMs View Post
    Locally? As far as I know there are no Sears or Kmart in Detroit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
    Detroit-Windsor area has about 5.5 million people. This site is about that. If you want to limit it to an area just less than 15% of that population, and shrinking, that doesn't seem to fit with this site's intention of what "local" is.

    Either way, there is a Super KMart on the NW side of Detroit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartock View Post
    Detroit-Windsor area has about 5.5 million people. This site is about that. If you want to limit it to an area just less than 15% of that population, and shrinking, that doesn't seem to fit with this site's intention of what "local" is.

    Either way, there is a Super KMart on the NW side of Detroit.
    I guess we all don't have the same definition of local. Mine is within the city limits. Is that Kmart the one on the Detroit side of Eight mile and Telegraph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidTownMs View Post
    I guess we all don't have the same definition of local. Mine is within the city limits. Is that Kmart the one on the Detroit side of Eight mile and Telegraph?
    That's the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidTownMs View Post
    Locally? As far as I know there are no Sears or Kmart in Detroit. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
    There's a Super K-Mart on Telegraph, it's on the east side of the road south of 8 Mile.

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    Detroit is a market that is tied to K-mart/Sears through its long history with Kresge. It is seen as one of its strongest markets. Sears has not closed a lot of stores here recently. I would think that the last closure was Highland Park in the region, and before that the outlet stores in Grosse Pointe and on Plymouth. These have been gone for at least 20 years.

    A chief competitor, Walmart, while it has made some inroads into the market does not dominate areound here. The local culture sides more with the anti-Walmart crowd, preferring Target [[whose roots were with Dayton-Hudson) and K-mart. 100-125 stores is not a huge number of stores, though they may hit rural areas that are serviced by both K-mart and Walmart. These would include Cheboygan, West Branch, and Houghton Lake.

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    MidTownMs you are absolutely entitled to your own definition of "local", keeping in mind that this site definies it broadly as the Greater Detroit/Greater Windsor "Metropolis"...meaning we would even include the Windsor Sears locations. That being said, the Super Kmart at 19990 Telegraph is within the proper City of Detroit.

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    Hopefully that Sears would not close the Super K in Detroit or Madison Heights or Roseville.

    Sears can close a K-mart in Warren but the leave the Garden City one open.

    Sears can close theirs stores in Livonia, Lincoln Park, but the leave the Oakland, Macomb and Fairlane, Westland and Eastland mall open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Sears can close a K-mart in Warren but the leave the Garden City one open.
    The Garden City location will likely never close. It was the very first Kmart-ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilderness View Post
    The Garden City location will likely never close. It was the very first Kmart-ever.
    I worked at what I thought was a closure-immune K-Mart, the Troy one. It was the closest store to the former headquarters. It closed years ago, still vacant at 15 and Livernois.

    I suspect my local K-Mart will close at 10\Dequindre. It's a miserable shit-hole. The rebranded it as an "Sears Essentials" store, but have since made it back into a K-Mart.

    What a failure of a company. What a huge mistake to dual-brand K-Mart stores as "Sears Essentials".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48091 View Post
    I worked at what I thought was a closure-immune K-Mart, the Troy one. It was the closest store to the former headquarters. It closed years ago, still vacant at 15 and Livernois.

    I suspect my local K-Mart will close at 10\Dequindre. It's a miserable shit-hole. The rebranded it as an "Sears Essentials" store, but have since made it back into a K-Mart.
    About the first sentence: That store would've closed in September 2009 as there are "store closing" banners: http://g.co/maps/exbfa

    And about the second one: They almost did the same thing to the Kmart at West and Allen Roads in Woodhaven about six years ago.
    Last edited by mtburb; December-27-11 at 04:45 PM.

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    Unrelated, but semi-related: Payless recently closed 400 stores nationwide and two of them were the Payless at Bel-Air and the one on Livernois and 7 Mile. Not sure of any others within the city, but the one on 9 Mile and Kelly closed as well. The two Detroit locations though, I question the reasoning because those two seemed like pretty good spots.

    As far as Sears goes, they're all mostly major anchors to the local malls [[Oakland, Eastland, Macomb, etc)...if any of those were to close, that'd be really really really ugly for the local communities. I can't imagine something as big or as long standing would be able to take their place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animatedmartian View Post
    Unrelated, but semi-related: Payless recently closed 400 stores nationwide and two of them were the Payless at Bel-Air and the one on Livernois and 7 Mile. Not sure of any others within the city, but the one on 9 Mile and Kelly closed as well. The two Detroit locations though, I question the reasoning because those two seemed like pretty good spots.

    As far as Sears goes, they're all mostly major anchors to the local malls [[Oakland, Eastland, Macomb, etc)...if any of those were to close, that'd be really really really ugly for the local communities. I can't imagine something as big or as long standing would be able to take their place.
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    Both Payless stores you reference were empty at any time of the day. There is a Payless on Gratiot and Gunston however.

    The Sears at Macomb Mall I know for sure is a ghost town. And that'll be the final nail in the coffin for Macomb Mall once Sears is gone.

    As for the Kmart on 9 Mile and Harper, it's mighty redundant when there's the huge Kmart Super Center on Frazho and Gratiot.

    I'm not sure what to think of the 8 Mile and Telegraph Super Kmart.

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    For starters...

    *Either the Sears at Macomb Mall or Eastland Center, if not both.
    *Kmart on 9 Mile and Harper

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    For starters...

    *Either the Sears at Macomb Mall or Eastland Center, if not both.
    *Kmart on 9 Mile and Harper

    Agree about the Kmart onf 9 mile and Harper. With the bowling alley just north of 9 mile and Harper being recently demolished, there would be a lot of available real estate over there.

    I hope the Eastland Center one does not go. It is newer, and always seems steady when I'm over there. Macomb Mall...eh, aside from the Kohls attached to the back, is the mall that busy?

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    Pontiac Mall. Final nail in the coffin????

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    Quote Originally Posted by rex View Post
    Pontiac Mall. Final nail in the coffin????
    I doubt it. Nothing like it anywhere close-by. Closest place I can think of is a strip of Big Boxes along Brown, just past Great Lakes Mall. My first visit to Pontiac Mall in the 1970's the Sears was a hike from the Hudson's; one where is made sense to get in your car in drive. I don't think much was ever opened in the final phase of the mall expansion that connected it to the original mall.

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    I live not far from the Kmart at Fort Street and Pennsylvania, nearest Sears is at Dix and Southfield [[this particular location is where I bought a Motown album collection for my Christmas shopping). I would hate to see both close. I felt the same way back in 2008 when they wanted to close the Meijer across the street from Kmart.
    Last edited by mtburb; December-27-11 at 05:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtburb View Post
    I live not far from the Kmart at Fort Street and Pennsylvania, nearest Sears is at Dix and Southfield [[this particular location is where I bought a Motown album collection for my Christmas shopping). I would hate to see both close. I felt the same way back in 2008 when they wanted to close the Meijer across the street from Kmart.
    When I lived in Lincoln Park, I would always compare the grocery ads between Meijer & Kmart. At first, when the Kmart was new, I would split my shopping between the 2 stores. However, after a couple of years I had to stop going to Kmart as they never had any sale items left when I got there. Also, most of the shelves were bare as if no restocking was taking place. I gave up on it & just stuck with Meijer. Since moving out of downriver, I occassionally stop at the Kmart in Taylor on Van Born. I see no difference there. Lots of empty shelves where it looked they had limited stock, sold out, & didn't restock. Also, like 401don says, most of their stores are just a hodge podge of merchandise. You can't attract & retain a sustaining customer base with business activity like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie5275 View Post
    At first, when the Kmart was new, I would split my shopping between the 2 stores.
    What Kmart did you go to and when? Since you lived in Lincoln Park, you might have gone to the one at 3710 Dix in LP circa 1994: http://rimes12.tripod.com/streets/dix.html

    If the Kmart on Fort Street were to close [[and the Meijer closed in 2008 and still closed by then) businesses around Fort and Pennsylvania would drop like flies and suddenly Fort between Pennsylvania and Quarry will turn from a thriving area to a ghost town.
    Last edited by mtburb; December-27-11 at 09:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtburb View Post



    What Kmart did you go to and when? Since you lived in Lincoln Park, you might have gone to the one at 3710 Dix in LP circa 1994: http://rimes12.tripod.com/streets/dix.html

    If the Kmart on Fort Street were to close [[and the Meijer closed in 2008 and still closed by then) businesses around Fort and Pennsylvania would drop like flies and suddenly Fort between Pennsylvania and Quarry will turn from a thriving area to a ghost town.
    I went to the Kmart on Fort near Pennsylania. The Meijer across the street from it is still open. It's even listed on Meijer's website. I don't know where you got this info that it closed in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie5275 View Post
    I went to the Kmart on Fort near Pennsylania. The Meijer across the street from it is still open. It's even listed on Meijer's website. I don't know where you got this info that it closed in 2008.
    So that meant you went from 1998 to 2000. And the Meijer closing was just a rumor. An announcement that this particular Meijer would close, then the people of Riverview, Southgate and Wyandotte said "KEEP IT OPEN!" and they did. I also know it's still open because that's where I did a large portion of this year's Christmas shopping at. And I also continue to split my grocery shopping between the two stores, as well as the Kroger next to the Southgate Shopping Center.
    Last edited by mtburb; December-27-11 at 10:02 PM.

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    Sears Eastland is relatively new, having occupied the former JCP location after they bailed out for Gratiot & 13.

    Macomb Sears has a huge footprint - possibly a strike against it.

    9 & Harper Kmart is in rough shape, despite getting the new signage the interior is basically unchanged from original and the merchandise is generally roughed up...not sure if this is an under-performing store that's being "propped up" or not...pretty weak effort at being "propped up" if that's the case!

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    Don't matter to me. I don't shop at either. Feel bad for anyone about to lost their job, though.

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