Comerica Park Renovations

**mikefmich** · December-20-11, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by CLAUDE G

Unless there is something that I don't know about, wasn't the Tiger Stadium demolotion done for Free, because some asshole demolition company wanted to cash in on all the scrap metal?

If the city had to pay to tear it down, it would still be standing.

That is correct.

**CLAUDE G** · December-20-11, 02:25 AM

As far as Tiger Stadium, yes there where lots of things that where not too good. The steel columns, the small seats, and even the narrow concourses.

However all of those things put together is what made Tiger Stadium a great place to see a baseball game.

bartock · December-20-11, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by softailrider

Totally agree. Anybody who thinks Comerica Park is a better place to watch a baseball game then Tiger Stadium was, needs to get their head examined.

Nobody would argue with that. However, I would submit that most people go to Comerica to be at a baseball game moreso than actually watching a baseball game. Then, add in children. The park was designed with families in mind. The opportunity costs are too great to cater to "real" baseball fans that are at the ballpark to watch the game.

**mfossano** · December-20-11, 09:52 AM

I wonder if ghettopalmetto was this upset when Wrigley added outfield wall ads and electronic scoreboard in CF, or when Fenway supercharged their amenities in recent years and added the Monster Seats. Perhaps he would've rather seen them meet their maker au natural, a la when chunks of Wrigley were falling apart a few years ago due to years of neglect.

Also, for what it's worth, Comerica is not a perfect ballpark but to complain about the sight lines is wrong. Even when you're high atop the 300 level you still have a great vantage point. I loved Tiger Stadium but I think sometimes nostalgia clouds our better judgment.

**buckster1986** · December-20-11, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto

Are youarguing with yourself?

Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto

How is it unfair to compare Commercialism Park to Wrigley or Fenway? I mean,Detroit had a contemporary "dinosaur" of a ballpark, and spentmillions of public dollars to demolish it and erect the beloved edifice thatyou now say is "behind", some 11 years later. The only technology youneed for baseball is a damned bat and a damned ball. How difficult is that?

Go back to your video games.

I'm not here to argue that those stadiums are a better place to watch the game of baseball. We lost our ballpark of that era. I realize that. I have moved on. Do I love Comerica Park, no. Do I absolutly hate it, no. Do I still attend games, yes. I dohowever find it to be a better ballpark for its era than many of the new parks.I've learned to accept what Comerica is. Parks are evolving over time more rapidly.

I'm still having trouble figuring out your comment, though. Because I don't agree with you I play video games? You're either assuming or stereotyping that someone my age plays a lot of video games or I'm not educated enough to make my own opinions or something completely different. I know this is a public board and all but lets try and stick to the topic of the thread.

**Detroitnerd** · December-20-11, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by buckster1986

I'm still having trouble figuring out your comment though because I don't agree with you I playvideo games? You're either assuming or sterotyping that someone my ageplays a lot of video games or I'm not educated enough to make my own opinions or something completly different. I know this is a public board and all but lets tryand stick to the topic of the thread.

I think he's implying that you're a little wet behind the ears. It's your grammar and writing that prove it, though.

**buckster1986** · December-20-11, 01:59 PM

Yup, I'm sorry. I should have taken the time to read over it.

**softailrider** · December-20-11, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by bartock

Nobody would argue with that. However, I would submit that most people go to Comerica to be at a baseball game moreso than actually watching a baseball game. Then, add in children. The park was designed with families in mind. The opportunity costs are too great to cater to "real" baseball fans that are at the ballpark to watch the game.

Actually, I've had people argue that point with me, There are some people out there who have attended games at both parks and like Comerica better.

I've heard that the last row of the upper deck at Tiger stadium, was closer to the field then the first row at Comerica Park.

**DLife** · December-20-11, 10:58 PM

If you've been in the suites at Comerica....way better than old Tiger Stadium. Plus I can piss with some privacy.

**Enduro** · December-20-11, 11:23 PM

Any feel good speculation on what the changes may be? I, too, mourn Tiger Stadium but I understand that it's not standing anymore so it's unlikely we will be seeing an MLB game there soon. So, personally, I'd like to see:

The flagpole moved back INTO play like it was before they Nerfed the fences. Returning the old fences would be cool too but it ain't gonna happen.

The liquid fireworks going away and setting up a standing room area in dead center or better yet an overhang with seating!

Every section moved closer to the field.

Moving the ferris wheel somewhere where you could sit in it and watch the game live.

More bleachers.

More variety of concessions.

Not relevant to me but I imagine they'll make some kind of better smoking pen since the smoking ban was after they built the stadium.

**CLAUDE G** · December-21-11, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by DLife

If you've been in the suites at Comerica....way better than old Tiger Stadium. Plus I can piss with some privacy.

I have been to the suites at Comerica Park. Don't get me wrong, they are nice considering each one has its own private bathroom and they way they are setup where you can go outside.

I personally don't care for the catered food, and would rather eat what they got on the concourse.

Im a season Ticket holder, and I have been invited to go to a suite many times. I always leave and go and sit in my regular seats because its just too far away from the field.

As far as the comment about the upgrades made to Fenway and Wrigley, atleast they did the upgrades in an attempt to keep everyone happy, instead of starting over from scratch and building a new ballpark.

Besides that, the Cubs and Red Sox in the past 15 years have capitolized off the fact they are still playing in their origional ballparks. Go to Chicago, and you have a choice of seeing the White Sux or the Cubs. I see the Cubs just because they play at Wrigley, and to be honest if Comminsky Park was still Standing, I would probably go and see the White Sox more oftem.

But hey everyone loves going to Wrigley field, and everyone likes seeing the Cubs. The reason for this is because they haven't won a world series in over 100 years, where as everyone hates the Yankees because we are all tired of seeing them win the world series.

**buckster1986** · January-27-12, 03:55 PM

Has anyone peeked in to see what's going on? Anyone have pictures? Or maybe could take pictures?

**CLAUDE G** · January-27-12, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by buckster1986

Has anyone peeked in to see what's going on? Anyone have pictures? Or maybe could take pictures?

I have been wanting to go by there, but have not had a chance to peak inside,

**buckster1986** · February-13-14, 11:48 PM

More renovations...

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...a-Park-seating

**Gistok** · February-14-14, 12:32 AM

Hehehe... that image shows a boxy Broderick and Whitney towers... and even a Statler site building...

**DetroitPlanner** · February-14-14, 08:45 AM

Looks like a cash grab. More premium seats, more places to sell basic drinks at premium prices.

**Khorasaurus** · February-14-14, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Gistok

Hehehe... that image shows a boxy Broderick and Whitney towers... and even a Statler site building...

They're not the only ones. Frequently the News and Freep include the footprint of the Statler on maps of Grand Circus Park [[while ignoring buildings that actually exist...). Google Maps has the Statler still standing, too.

**bailey** · February-14-14, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

Looks like a cash grab. More premium seats, more places to sell basic drinks at premium prices.

Stating the obvious post of the day. Of course it's a cash grab...and it'll be packed every game.

Can you fault them for helping themselves to fans' cash when they so willingly hand it over?

**DetroitPlanner** · February-14-14, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by bailey

Stating the obvious post of the day. Of course it's a cash grab...and it'll be packed every game.

Can you fault them for helping themselves to fans' cash when they so willingly hand it over?

Of course it is obvious. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sort of like paying premium prices to go to Disney World and being subjected to see ads for ABC or ESPN everywhere; or Cedar Point where you have to pay an extra $50 so that you only have to wait 45 minutes to get onto a ride instead of an two hours.

My hope is that people will eventually see through this for what it really is. It is not an improvement. It is a money grab.

**401don** · February-14-14, 12:47 PM

There's a lot of young people who are happy to stand in right field, socialize and drink throughout the game, which is fine, but charging 20 bucks standing room is the cash grab. If people are dumb enough to pay up to 50 bucks to sit out there they clearly can afford it or aren't too bright. Those bleachers on top of the Jungle bar are really pushing it though. You may as well be on top of the Broderick.

**401don** · February-14-14, 12:56 PM

Speaking of cash grabs, the Tigers are now charging 5 bucks extra to buy a pass to get in early to watch batting practice - at spring training in Lakeland!

**ghettopalmetto** · February-14-14, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by 401don

Speaking of cash grabs, the Tigers are now charging 5 bucks extra to buy a pass to get in early to watch batting practice - at spring training in Lakeland!

Remember, Mike Ilitch is desperately poor and *he needs your help*.

**bailey** · February-14-14, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

My hope is that people will eventually see through this for what it really is. It is not an improvement. It is a money grab.

What at CoPa ISN'T a money grab? It's entire raison d'être is to vacuum money from the pockets of fans. It hasn't hurt attendance or Tiger's revenue yet... this just added more seats and more ways to charge more money and I doubt they'll have any problem putting butts in those seats.

Remember, Mike Ilitch is desperately poor and *he needs your help*.

Like the man said... a sucker is born every minute. If we're dumb enough to keep handing over the money with no strings attached [[when it comes to CoPA and Hockey-ville) why is that Illitch's fault?