Two Killed in Detroit Building Collapse

[downtown_racine]

I love the line the reporter mutters, "in the wake of this tragedy the Detroit Fire department is warning people that scrapping is a dangerous way to make a living" like pilfering pipes out of someone elses property is a legitimate gig.

Now lets go fell some 36" I beams 3 stories up in a skywalk.

[Dexlin]

I love the line the reporter mutters, "in the wake of this tragedy the Detroit Fire department is warning people that scrapping is a dangerous way to make a living" like pilfering pipes out of someone elses property is a legitimate gig.

Now lets go fell some 36" I beams 3 stories up in a skywalk.

It's a very real job in a city without many legitimate jobs, and a region without reliable options to get to where the jobs actually are. I'm as sick of scrappers as the next guy, but lets not pretend this is done in a vacuum and for no reason or that your average scrapper is getting rich off of this dangerous task. These folks ended up paying a price far more expensive than any court could order; they paid with their lives, so I'm not going to add insult to injury, or insult to death more literally.

[noise]

It's a very real job in a city without many legitimate jobs, and a region without reliable options to get to where the jobs actually are. I'm as sick of scrappers as the next guy, but lets not pretend this is done in a vacuum and for no reason or that your average scrapper is getting rich off of this dangerous task. These folks ended up paying a price far more expensive than any court could order; they paid with their lives, so I'm not going to add insult to injury, or insult to death more literally.

Agreed. I think about what it would take to get me to do these things to provide for my family and I can't help but feel horrible for the people forced into these "jobs".

Don't get me wrong: you have nobody to blame but yourself when you get caught doing something illegal...but that doesn't mean I think they should be killed.

[Danny]

If a building is totally dangerous abandoned TEAR IT DOWN! covering up the doors and windows is not going to work!

[Det_ard]

Agreed. I think about what it would take to get me to do these things to provide for my family and I can't help but feel horrible for the people forced into these "jobs".

Don't get me wrong: you have nobody to blame but yourself when you get caught doing something illegal...but that doesn't mean I think they should be killed.

You're incredibly naive to think that they're scrapping "to provide for their families". They're scrapping to provide for their drug/alcohol habits, not to buy beans and rice.

[reddog289]

The guy across the street from me scrapped when he was outta work. I would have taken the scrap in myself, But I have a job. He got back to work and people on the block kept putting scrap in his truck. He'd be out every garbage night getting the scrap. Now I have done that too, But I ain't about to go into some building and start cutting away at steel beams. Guess people do what they feel he need do.

[noise]

You're incredibly naive to think that they're scrapping "to provide for their families". They're scrapping to provide for their drug/alcohol habits, not to buy beans and rice.

And all poor people are lazy. Thanks, Newt.

[RaumVogel]

And all poor people are lazy. Thanks, Newt.

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You can tell the long employed, slightly brain washed right wingers. They haven't had to pay attention to reality for a long time.

[Ravine]

You're incredibly naive to think that they're scrapping "to provide for their families". They're scrapping to provide for their drug/alcohol habits, not to buy beans and rice.

I'll take "incredibly naive" over "judgmental toward folks you don't even know" any day, all day.